Mods and Patch 1.13.1-f1 [Mod compatibility thread]

[Avanya]

Last updated 5th of June 10:53

Patch day means some mods are likely to break, meaning your city won't load/work like it usually does. But don't worry, most mods update pretty quickly or can safely be removed, so you are unlikely to lose your city.

Just don't panic and if you do open your save, don't save over the file - save as a new file instead just to be safe.

If you don't use any mods from the workshop or have been through patches before you likely know the drill and this post won't really be useful for you. It's intended to help players who aren't used to mods and patches through the update as smoothly as possible. If this is still all new to you and you have questions feel free to ask and I’ll answer them as best as I can.

If you play with a lot of mods

• Don’t open your city or cities yet, but wait until most major mods are updated, so nothing breaks.
  
• Keep an eye on this post and its links so you know which mods are updated.
  
• Disable all mods and start a new city (make sure not to save over your other city!) if you want to check out the new features. This can easily be done by adding the launch option “-noWorkshop” (without the quotation marks)
  
• Even if you have broken mods you might still be able to load your city, but depending on the mods things might be messy. If you do load without those mods, make sure to save as a new file just in case!

Which mods are broken

• Dropouts - error, broken, remove or use replacement: Dropouts Sunset Fix
  
• Fine Road Anarchy - old mod, no longer updated. Use replacement: Fine Road Anarchy 2
  
• Fine Road Tool - old mod, no longer updated. Use replacement: Fine Road Tool 2
  
• Toggleable Whiteness - tours are invisible
  
• Traffic Manager: President Edition (STABLE) - old mod, no longer updated, use replacement: TM:PE V11 STABLE
  
• Transport Line Rendering Fix - broken, no longer needed, remove

Not broken, but has some issues

• Advanced Vehicle Options (AVO) - works, but has no options for the new DLC. Updated replacement: Advanced Vehicle Options (Sunset Harbor)
  
• Building Panel Already Exists Icons Fix - Displays service buildings as can only be build once like unique buildings, just a UI issue, buildings can be placed several times just fine. Obsolete! Issue has been fixed, so you can just remove the mod.
  
• Customize it - works, but missing settings for new DLC features, use Custimize It Extended
  
• Extended Building Information - works, but shows nothing for the new DLC buildings
  
• Sub-Buildings Tabs Tabs positions are off on some of the new transport hubs.
  
• Tree LOD Fix - error popup on launch for some people

Has been updated - working again

• 81 tiles
  
• Advanced Vehicle Options (Sunset Harbor)
  
• Customize It Extended
  
• Environment Changer
  
• Extended Game Options
  
• Extra Train Station Tracks (ETST)
  
• Favorite Cims
  
• Fine Road Anarchy 2
  
• Improved Public Transport 2
  
• Loading Screen Mod
  
• Loading Screen Mod Test
  
• Metro Overhaul Mod
  
• More Asset Tags
  
• More Network Stuff
  
• More Vehicles
  
• Network Extensions 2
  
• Quay Anarchy
  
• Real Time
  
• Rebalanced Industries
  
• Service Vehicle Selector 2
  
• Stops and Stations
  
• Ticket Price Customizer
  
• TM:PE V11 STABLE
  
• TM:PE v11.1.2 LABS
  
• Train Converter - no longer requires Metro Overhaul Mod
  
• Transport Lines Manager 13.2

Obsolute - no longer needed

• Building Panel Already Exists Icons Fix - Issue has been fixed, so you can just remove the mod.
  
• Pause on Load - has been added to the game
  
• Transport Line Rendering Fix - no longer needed

Mod Compatibility Checker

You can use this mod to check for mod incompatibilities. Make sure to read the description!
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2034713132

Will I be able to continue my old city?

Most likely yes, but it might be a few days depending on what mods you use. I'll help you figure out when you can safely start your city again.

Will ‘insert mod’ be updated?

Most likely yes - a lot of our awesome modders are working hard to get everything up and running again. But some mods will need larger fixes and as modders only have their free time, we might wait a while for some of them. Now is a great time to tell them how much we appreciate their work!

And if there are already several comments mentioning the mod is broken, you don't need to comment. The modder knows and will update when they can.

Which mods do I absolutely need to load my city?

I don't have a complete list, but generally mods that add a network like Network Extensions 2, More Train Tracks, Metro Overhaul Mod, One Way Train Tracks and Extra Train Station Tracks are needed to load a city once you have used the networks they add in your city. If any of these are broken you'll have to wait for them to be fixed to load your city again. 81 tiles is another mod you'll need to wait for to be updated if you have used it.

Then there are mods like Traffic Manager: President Edition, any mod that changes population numbers (like Realistic Population and Consumption), Ploppable RICO and Plop the Growables, which you can load your city without, but it's not a good idea as your city will be chaotic at best and fall apart at worst.

A good way to determine how much you need a mod is to think of what it does. If it makes some big changes to how things work in game, removing it will cause problems. If it's something that makes things more convenient for you but doesn't really change how things function once in your city, it isn't a big deal to get rid of.

What about Metro Overhaul Mod

The creators of MOM have confirmed that the mod will be updated to work with Sunset Harbor. If you use this mod in your city, you will still need it after the update. If you would like to remove the mod at any time, then follow the instruction in the mod's description. If you'd like to know what's happening with the mod in the future, check out this message from BadPeanut: https://twitter.com/CS_badpeanut/status/1240746577456771073

Still having issues?

You might have mods that broke before this patch - maybe last patch or long before that. I recommend checking out this list of broken and abandoned mods[docs.google.com] to get rid of any old ones you still have. It's a constant work in progress, so it may not be a complete list, but it's a great place to start. See the tab at the bottom on how to use.

Having errors?

Many errors are very generic and don't give much clue as to the problem. Please don't post long errors in comments. Instead just describe when the error happens (what you were doing at the time it appeared) and include your log file. This guide explains where to find it and suggests different places you can upload it to, since you can't attach a file here.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=463645931&searchtext=log

[Meesmoth]

Due to the Philippine quarantine, and the still-ongoing blue screens, and this DLC release, I might not be able to play this game for at least 1 month. So during this time I can peacefully wait for the mods to get updated after the DLC gets released

[vila浅水荟澄]

Thanks for your post
If I copy the save and play in new save with un-updated mod. Will this influence my original savegame? (maybe through config file?)

[Avanya]

No, you can make a backup of the save like that. I suggest moving it out of the savegames folder and keeping it somewhere else. Then you can open the save and see how things are and if something breaks, you have the backup to use.

[GUIJA]

Any information about the free patch? What will bring, or just some general improvement of the game?

[snowflitzer]

Thank you @Avanya for your effort to explain it very nicely. I hope everyone reads this and wait with questions :)

[leftbehind]

TM:PE v11 STABLE and TM:PE v11 LABS will be compatible within few hours of release, including support for trolleybus listed in the public announcement schedule.

Traffic Manager: President Edition (STABLE) v10.20 will _not_ be compatible (it is no longer maintained as LinuxFan no longer plays the game).

To transition from v10.20 (or earlier) to v11, follow these steps:

1. Exit game to desktop
2. Unsubscribe v10.20
3. Subscribe to v11 (either STABLE or LABS)

If that process is followed, settings will be carried across. If you have any problems, check the TMPE.log file - there's a list of mods in there and any known breaking mods will have a `!` next to them. If still problems, contact TM:PE team via either of the v11 (LABS or STABLE) workshop pages.

[Avanya]

Originally posted by urban dave:

Any information about the free patch? What will bring, or just some general improvement of the game?

The 25th will have a dev diary detailing all the goodies we get in the free patch, but for now yesterdays dev diary confirmed a few things that will be in the free patch:

The free part of this DLC, includes a majorly overhauled metro system. You can now adjust the height of metro tracks, which means tracks and stations can be underground, street level, or even above ground on elevated platforms! Included in the free content update are also the new Healthcare facilities. After building them, you may notice more children being born in the city and some citizens living slightly longer than others.

[Cahos Rahne Veloza]

Originally posted by Avanya:

Originally posted by urban dave:

Any information about the free patch? What will bring, or just some general improvement of the game?

The 25th will have a dev diary detailing all the goodies we get in the free patch, but for now yesterdays dev diary confirmed a few things that will be in the free patch:

The free part of this DLC, includes a majorly overhauled metro system. You can now adjust the height of metro tracks, which means tracks and stations can be underground, street level, or even above ground on elevated platforms! Included in the free content update are also the new Healthcare facilities. After building them, you may notice more children being born in the city and some citizens living slightly longer than others.

So the Colosal Order implementation of MOM will be free? Sweet! :D

The Healthcare patch seems a bit inferior compared to the "Realistic Life Cycle" mod though.

[ilmibear.88]

what about vehicle assets in mom, will it follow with the sunset harbor?

[DaddyJokee]

Is there a way to prevent my game from updating?

[Avanya]

Originally posted by ilmibear.88:

what about vehicle assets in mom, will it follow with the sunset harbor?

Any that were made as metro vehicles will be useable with Sunset Harbor without mods. Any that are trains, which MOM converts to metro will need a mod to be used with the new metro in Sunset Harbor, or would need to be remade as metro vehicles. We will just have to see what options we will have once the DLC releases and mods update or are made for it. :)

Originally posted by MrJokee:

Is there a way to prevent my game from updating?

Not any good ones. You can disable automatic updates and switch Steam in offline mode - but Steam offline mode disables the workshop, so if you're doing it to keep a modded city, then it won't work. Instead of offline mode, you CAN disconnect the internet before starting the game, which should work (I haven't tested it since before the launcher), but it's an awkward solution.

Thanks to the modding beta we tend to not have long with broken mods though, so personally I wouldn't bother. I play heavily modded with ~100 mods and ~3000 assets and the last few patches I've been able to jump into my cities again after a couple of days. The modders are doing an awesome job preparing for patches and updating mods quick.

[NewMasterChoco]

I wait about a week or two. Too bad since I just got back into the game but until then, I can play every night and work on my city little by little. I am definitely looking forward to the next DLC and the Creator's Pack for "Modern Japan". I am going to create my Little Tokyo!

[DaddyJokee]

Originally posted by Avanya:

Originally posted by ilmibear.88:

what about vehicle assets in mom, will it follow with the sunset harbor?

Any that were made as metro vehicles will be useable with Sunset Harbor without mods. Any that are trains, which MOM converts to metro will need a mod to be used with the new metro in Sunset Harbor, or would need to be remade as metro vehicles. We will just have to see what options we will have once the DLC releases and mods update or are made for it. :)

Originally posted by MrJokee:

Is there a way to prevent my game from updating?

Not any good ones. You can disable automatic updates and switch Steam in offline mode - but Steam offline mode disables the workshop, so if you're doing it to keep a modded city, then it won't work. Instead of offline mode, you CAN disconnect the internet before starting the game, which should work (I haven't tested it since before the launcher), but it's an awkward solution.

Thanks to the modding beta we tend to not have long with broken mods though, so personally I wouldn't bother. I play heavily modded with ~100 mods and ~3000 assets and the last few patches I've been able to jump into my cities again after a couple of days. The modders are doing an awesome job preparing for patches and updating mods quick.

I'll take your word for it, since you are one of the biggest mod producers for this game. Thanks

[Avanya]

Originally posted by NewMasterChoco:

I wait about a week or two. Too bad since I just got back into the game but until then, I can play every night and work on my city little by little. I am definitely looking forward to the next DLC and the Creator's Pack for "Modern Japan". I am going to create my Little Tokyo!

Hopefully it won't even take that long. The last 2 patches it was a couple of days before we could play heavily modded cities again. :) I will update this post after release, so you can always check this to see if your mods have been updated and you can get back to building. :)

Originally posted by MrJokee:

I'll take your word for it, since you are one of the biggest mod producers for this game. Thanks

If you do end up having problems, I and others in the community can help figure out what the problem is. The important thing is just to never save over your savegame file. And I would recommend making a copy of it to store somewhere on your computer as a backup. It never hurts to have a backup just in case. :)

[DaddyJokee]

Originally posted by Avanya:

Originally posted by NewMasterChoco:

I wait about a week or two. Too bad since I just got back into the game but until then, I can play every night and work on my city little by little. I am definitely looking forward to the next DLC and the Creator's Pack for "Modern Japan". I am going to create my Little Tokyo!

Hopefully it won't even take that long. The last 2 patches it was a couple of days before we could play heavily modded cities again. :) I will update this post after release, so you can always check this to see if your mods have been updated and you can get back to building. :)

Originally posted by MrJokee:

I'll take your word for it, since you are one of the biggest mod producers for this game. Thanks

If you do end up having problems, I and others in the community can help figure out what the problem is. The important thing is just to never save over your savegame file. And I would recommend making a copy of it to store somewhere on your computer as a backup. It never hurts to have a backup just in case. :)

Thanks. I'll probably just wait a day or two. I am using most of Buffa's mod list, plus some things I like from elsewhere, and a ton of your assets, which are usually fine.