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(LWOTC) Vanguard Class

Deskripsi
Use my new version, this one is redundant now

Summary
  • Vanguards are short range soldiers, they can only equip the shotgun. They are also semi-heroic (Similar to Iridars Stormriders), so you cannot train them in the GTS, you can only get them as rewards or as random promotions (Or if you use Commanders Choice, then thats another way to get them). This is done to make them feel slightly more special and also for balance reasons.
  • Vanguards are not tanks as their primary purpose, but they can serve as one when needed. They can take empty secondary weapon slot to get 15% mobility boost. A shield, which would make them unflankable and provide them with superb defences, or a pistol.
  • Vanguards do not get pistol slot like most LWOTC classes, they can equip it as secondary weapon instead. This was done for both balancing reasons and...animation reasons too.
  • Vanguards gain defence and ablatative health as they rank up. Meaning they will be harder to hit and will be able to keep up slightly with Advent and their spiralling aim growth as end game looms. Them gaining defence is done to really hammer down that Vanguards are front line troops, not tanks. Bonus defence caps at 5.
Innate abilities
Sidewinder - The main ability of Vanguards, every 3 turns they will turn a hit in to a miss and gain a movement only point as interupt action. They can move away, towards enemies, but perks like Blitz Kick (From Stormriders) can be used too.
Slugshot - The only long range attack of Vanguards outside of using pistols.
Infighter - Vanguards are trained to excell at close range combat, hence they gain 25 dodge against enemies within 4 tiles.

Perks
LCPL - Light Em Up, Guard, Blitz Kick
CPL - Center Mass, Grazing Fire, Zone of Control
SGT - Burial Shot, Engarde, Focus
SSGT - Run and Gun, Riposte, Close Quater Specialist
TSGT - Chain Shot, Hit and Run, Cool Under Pressure
GSGT- Lock and Load, Fastball, Implacable
MSGT - Unload, Super Shredder Shot, Shotgun Wedding.

Strenghts
  • Sidewinder lets them absorb hits, even the hardest hitting enemies will whiff their attacks against Vanguards.
  • Defence growth lets them be sllightly more aggresive, also because they gain ablatative health instead of body health, this means even hits that are outside of Sidewinder window might get absorbed and not result in an injury. Though be wary this bonus HP is one of a time deal - it will not get back if they lose it, even on other missions.
  • Shotgun build gives them brutal short range firepower, at Master Sergeant they can learn to deal with enemies like Sectopods, Gatekeepers or Custodians with their Unload perk.
  • Shield build has additional damage mitigation abilities like Riposte (Which can work as discount combatitive)
Weaknesses
  • Sidewinder has a cooldown and only helps you against the first hit, meaning Vanguards are vulnerable to enemies with multi-attacks, like Custodians, Duelists, Elite Mutons, Elite Gunners and they are still as vulnerable towards psionic attacks like mind spin.
  • Compared to LWOTC Assaults, they lack Killer Instincts, rapid fire and close encounters, so they will not be able to deal as massive damage as them. Chain shot has cooldown and Unload comes very late.
  • Compared to Hoplites or Stormriders, Vanguards lack most tank perks and no melee damage perks. Meaning their shield is almost entirely defensive.
  • Vanguards do not gain HP on level up and their will growth is also nonexistant. This means armor, vests and PCS are important to safeguard Vanguards if their defences are to be breached. The extra ablative HP also will not grow back between missions so its only a bonus till they lose it, but in a pinch would still make a difference between an injury or no injury in that one mission where they got shot.
  • Shield makes them unflankable, but curbs their mobility alot.
Credits
RustyDios - For helping me on Discord when assembling this class and guiding me through the baby steps of SDK mod making progress.
Kiruka - Class wouldnt exist without her and Mod Jam she created.
Iridar - Vanguards use some of his abilities and without Stormriders existing, Vanguards wouldnt exist.
ShinyMoogle - Viper overhaul is the source of the Sidewinder perk, without it, Vanguards wouldnt exist.
Favid - Perks were taken from Favids ShadowOps pack (And Kirukas port of it to LWOTC)
Mitzruti - Same, without Mizrutis perk pack, there would be holes !
The entire LWOTC team - Well, without them, this class wouldnt exist !
Claus and Musashi - Without their work, this class would not materialize.
Ketaros - For 2D asset i used for class icon
24 Komentar
Embrace the Moonlight 30 Jan 2024 @ 8:03am 
Thanks for the speedy response @Mrvecz. Gonna give it a shot then and see how it goes.
Mrvecz  [pembuat] 29 Jan 2024 @ 11:02pm 
@Embrace the Moonlight
Purging the configs would defuct the viper class and related mechanics, but the ability itself, the sidewinder is hidden in a script file, so it should work...well in theory, worth trying out.
Embrace the Moonlight 29 Jan 2024 @ 6:12pm 
Hey again. Using the mod, loving the mod, but one question. Do you think I could delete most of the config for Viper class overhaul and still reap the benefits such as the sidewinder perk, so long as I don't delete anything related to that. Planning on using allies unknown in my next run and thought that might be a neat work around. Also, again loving the mod in its entirety.
kahikateaforest 4 Des 2023 @ 4:02pm 
I also have a problem with shotgun wedding not work due to ammo limitation. No idea on the conflict, but to be honest my VG is kicking the proverbial without it...
Shady Suspicious Smiling Man 26 Agu 2023 @ 12:31pm 
Thanks for the quick reply!

Sadly I wasn't using the hunting shotgun, I was using a mag tier shotgun

So far, I tried

testing with different secondaries, empty, pistol and shield

respeccing my existing vanguard via command, didn't work.

in case my vanguard was bugged, created a new vanguard via commands, didn't work.

Unsubing and resubbing, sadly it didn't fix it.

I created a new save, promoted someone via commands, still not enough ammo.

in case my skill was bugged, I promoted my frost adder, and oddly enough it works.

in case its related to human shotgun classes, edited another class to have the skill and for some reason the guy can use it.

So with my current line of testing, it seems to be a very specific clash or unknown bug (so far only affecting me) relating to Vanguards.

hopefully this helps find whatever's causing this weird bug. If no one else has this issue and it can't be replicated, then I'll chalk it up to an oddly specific mod clash or a curse.
Mrvecz  [pembuat] 26 Agu 2023 @ 8:00am 
Though... are you using the hunting shotgun instead of the standard shotgun ? When i looked back on Discord on the picture of someone about to use the shotgun wedding, they were using the plasma beam tier shotgun...maybe its not possible with hunting shotgun ?
Mrvecz  [pembuat] 26 Agu 2023 @ 4:16am 
@Shady
Hmm, that is odd, given i saw people using it just fine on Discord (they were like lookee here how Vanguard can one tap 8 people in pod from concealment) and its an already existing perk in Mod Jam (Frost Adders can get it too) so you not being able to use it is quite sus
Shady Suspicious Smiling Man 26 Agu 2023 @ 1:54am 
Is it just me or is there a bug related to "shotgun wedding", to me its constantly saying "insufficient ammo" (I tried putting an elite expanded mag and micro rounds, 8-9 bullets, apparently not enough)
Rui 18 Agu 2023 @ 12:59pm 
Man I dont know how you did it but the mod is incredible. The class is very original.
Mrvecz  [pembuat] 16 Agu 2023 @ 4:15am 
Fuck it, i will look in to making my own class icon in future when i get time