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Barter.vg Dec 5, 2017 @ 4:57am
Bundle Omissions, Mistakes, and Errors
There are several bundle topics. This is a catchall topic linked on the bundle pages.

Adding tradables from bundle pages leads to better accuracy, simplifies the discovery of problems like undocumented region locks, and allows for automatic tradable corrections.

Reporting any issue, even seemingly minor ones, can improve the bundle pages and also potentially the existing and yet-to-be-added tradables collections.
Last edited by Barter.vg; Dec 5, 2017 @ 4:58am
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luckz Dec 5, 2017 @ 5:37am 
Groupees Jonny's Jams - https://barter.vg/bundle/287/ - https://groupees.com/jonnyjams
is missing:
- Gun Rocket Desura key
- Gun Rocket Steam key http://store.steampowered.com/app/391420/Gun_Rocket/
- Proto Raider Steam key http://store.steampowered.com/app/386050/Proto_Raider/
- Yury itch.io key
- Yury Desura key

all tier 1
Last edited by luckz; Dec 5, 2017 @ 5:39am
theemu Dec 5, 2017 @ 5:57am 
Originally posted by luckz:
Groupees Jonny's Jams - https://barter.vg/bundle/287/ - https://groupees.com/jonnyjams
is missing:
- Gun Rocket Desura key
- Gun Rocket Steam key
- Proto Raider Steam key
- Yury itch.io key
- Yury Desura key

all tier 1
Should be fixed now. Gun Rocket Desura version was already there. Tier 2 was also missing Jamsouls (Steam).

Regarding these old bundles, there is an on-going effort (and has been in the past 6 months) to check & fix all of them, but given the large amount of the bundles it takes time. Getting new bundles added and fixing other issues usually takes higher priority.

As I posted before in some other bundle discussion, it is good however that you report these issues, because doing so provides us a priority what should be fixed next. But please don't report all missing Desura & itch etc non-Steam right now because we are aware lots of old Groupees bundles in particular miss those. Nobody has yet updated many of those bundles Rowtan added in the past years.

I think missing Steam game entries are good to report when noticed, so they would get taken care of asap. Desura & itch.io etc keys are lower priority I think, but of course eventually the goal is to get all those added too. Report them also if there is some good reason why their adding should be prioritized. Good reason is for example that you can get Steam key from Desura or itch.io, the key has expiration etc.
Last edited by theemu; Dec 31, 2017 @ 6:36pm
Barter.vg Dec 5, 2017 @ 6:13am 
Originally posted by theemu:
Should be fixed now. Gun Rocket desura was already there. Tier 2 was also missing Jamsouls.
Thanks for fixing that so quickly.

I added an overview to every bundle page with a link to report errors. Those links lead here. Anyone can report any error or omission. We can triage requests and errors with the newest Steam game bundles having the highest priority and old, non-Steam, non-tradable having the lowest.
luckz Dec 8, 2017 @ 10:30am 
Originally posted by Milouze:
I believe
https://barter.vg/bundle/2242/

should include
https://barter.vg/i/34905/

and not
https://barter.vg/i/20743/
Yep, checked key to verify and fixed.
Last edited by luckz; Dec 8, 2017 @ 10:32am
HaloInverse Dec 24, 2017 @ 8:14pm 
The entry for Humble Monthly #19[barter.vg] incorrectly includes "GONNER". The bundle actually includes "GONNER - Press Jump To Die Edition"[www.humblebundle.com], which includes both the base game and the OST.

There is a corresponding bundle on Steam, but it is merely labeled "GONNER + OST".
Last edited by HaloInverse; Dec 24, 2017 @ 8:15pm
theemu Dec 25, 2017 @ 2:58am 
Originally posted by HaloInverse:
The entry for Humble Monthly #19[barter.vg] incorrectly includes "GONNER". The bundle actually includes "GONNER - Press Jump To Die Edition"[www.humblebundle.com], which includes both the base game and the OST.

There is a corresponding bundle on Steam, but it is merely labeled "GONNER + OST".
Thanks for reporting.
There are differing opinions is it useful to add "basegame + OST" versions of all games to Barter.The inclusion of the OST can also be presented using the tag choice "+soundtrack ♫".

Since this version has specific title, it's been added: https://barter.vg/i/60682/ = https://steamdb.info/sub/130669/ and it is still labeled "GoNNER - Press Jump To Die Edition" when you activate it, this version is not sold in the Steam Store and that's why don't see that title there.
Last edited by theemu; Dec 31, 2017 @ 6:42pm
Doktor Schliemann Dec 26, 2017 @ 11:54am 
The entry for Fanatical RPG Bundle[barter.vg] includes Eschalon: Book 1 which, being a free game, isn't really included in the bundle.

Thanks for your work! Happy Holidays!

EDIT: Incorrect report, as pointed out by the post below.
Last edited by Doktor Schliemann; Dec 26, 2017 @ 1:54pm
theemu Dec 26, 2017 @ 12:35pm 
Originally posted by Doktor Schliemann:
The entry for Fanatical RPG Bundle[barter.vg] includes Eschalon: Book 1 which, being a free game, isn't really included in the bundle.
I bought the bundle few days ago, and I can verify it does include valid CD key for that game. I don't understand the logic why it shouldn't be included in the bundle?

CD key version does grant you different license package https://steamdb.info/sub/8706/ than the free version https://steamdb.info/sub/163344/
- both packages do contain the same game (same apps & depots) in this case, but:
- the paid version adds +1 to Steam library count, but the free version does not always. Some exceptions: https://www.reddit.com/r/Steam/comments/6g3ewz/new_f2p_games_that_add_1_to_your_game_library/ and the free version does not always stay in your local library listing unless you have the game installed
- if trading cards get added to the game in future, the free version "owners" don't get them usually (there are exceptions to this also of course)

https://barter.vg/i/927/ has now been marked as "$0 Given Away: Add To Account For Free". This is probably what you asked for? :)
Last edited by theemu; Dec 31, 2017 @ 6:43pm
Barter.vg Dec 26, 2017 @ 1:51pm 
Originally posted by HaloInverse:
The entry for Humble Monthly #19[barter.vg] incorrectly includes "GONNER". The bundle actually includes "GONNER - Press Jump To Die Edition"[www.humblebundle.com], which includes both the base game and the OST.
Thanks for reporting this.

Originally posted by theemu:
There are differing opinions is it useful to add "basegame + OST" versions of games to Barter. Because the inclusion of the OST can be presented using the tag system choice "+soundtrack ♫".
I think you made the right decision changing to the packages. There are complications to using packages instead of apps, but rather than make the data fit the existing site functions, it's likely better to change the site to match the most accurate data.

Originally posted by Doktor Schliemann:
The entry for Fanatical RPG Bundle[barter.vg] includes Eschalon: Book 1 which, being a free game, isn't really included in the bundle.
There are several bundles that included keys for free-to-play games, although usually the game is bundled and then later goes free-to-play / free-to-download. A stranger case is when a bundle includes a key for a demo, e.g. https://barter.vg/bundle/1799/

There should be better notices about these situations, but for the reasons theemu listed, there are still reasons to trade for these keys.
Doktor Schliemann Dec 26, 2017 @ 1:52pm 
Originally posted by theemu:
Originally posted by Doktor Schliemann:
The entry for Fanatical RPG Bundle[barter.vg] includes Eschalon: Book 1 which, being a free game, isn't really included in the bundle.
I bought the bundle few days ago, and I can verify it does include valid CD key for that game. I don't understand the logic why it shouldn't be included in the bundle?
You are right, I've just bought the bundle and there is a key for "Eschalon: Book I" too. Anyway the bundle page[www.fanatical.com] in the store doesn't report it as part of the bundle (it says: "discover 8 magical Steam games"), hence my mistake.

Originally posted by theemu:
https://barter.vg/i/927/ has now been marked as "$0 Given Away: Add To Account For Free". This is probably what you asked for? :)
I added that trading notice myself, but I am going to remove it since you had clearly explained me the difference between the paid version and the free one. :-)
Doktor Schliemann Dec 26, 2017 @ 2:00pm 
Originally posted by Barter.vg:
Originally posted by Doktor Schliemann:
The entry for Fanatical RPG Bundle[barter.vg] includes Eschalon: Book 1 which, being a free game, isn't really included in the bundle.
There are several bundles that included keys for free-to-play games, although usually the game is bundled and then later goes free-to-play / free-to-download. A stranger case is when a bundle includes a key for a demo, e.g. https://barter.vg/bundle/1799/

There should be better notices about these situations, but for the reasons theemu listed, there are still reasons to trade for these keys.
You and theemu are right as I already said to it in the post above, sorry for the mistake.
Thanks again for your work!
luckz Dec 26, 2017 @ 2:15pm 
Originally posted by theemu:
There are differing opinions is it useful to add "basegame + OST" versions of games to Barter. Because the inclusion of the OST can be presented using the tag system choice "+soundtrack ♫".
The tag is useful if the soundtrack is a separate download provided in the bundle, and not part of the Steam version given out in said bundle.
Barter.vg Dec 26, 2017 @ 2:20pm 
Originally posted by Doktor Schliemann:
You and theemu are right as I already said to it in the post above, sorry for the mistake.
It's not your mistake, it's a fair question given that Fanatical doesn't list the game. Thanks for reporting it, that's this topic's purpose.

Originally posted by luckz:
The tag is useful if the soundtrack is a separate download provided in the bundle, and not part of the Steam version given out in said bundle.
There is ambiguity with the tag's current name. Originally, it was "+DRM-free soundtrack ♫" and I think that should remain the tag's purpose.
theemu Dec 26, 2017 @ 3:51pm 
Then again, in usual trading scenario, if you have basegame+OST version for trade, I would assume usually you are looking to trade with someone who does not have the game at all. Activating the whole package just to get the OST is sometimes considered "wasteful". Depending for example on the value of the game and what you are getting in exchange.

Also, in current matching system, in order to maximize all possible matches, you need to also add the basegame (and OST) separately to your tradables. Not everyone care for the OST so if you only add the basegame+OST package to your tradables, those who don't know about the existence of the package version, or only care for the game itself won't find your tradable by matching. This is becoming more topical the more we add these packages to database, and I assume many traders now miss trade opportunities because they don't get all matches with their package items added from the bundle page. Or has this been addressed recently?

I agree that the "+soundtrack" tag should keep it's original purpose. Maybe then it should be renamed back to "+DRM-free soundtrack"? Particularly on the bundle pages it would be more accurate, rather than presenting false impression that there might be a Steam version of the soundtrack included.
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