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ellipsism 2017년 12월 5일 오전 4시 57분
Bundle Omissions, Mistakes, and Errors
There are several bundle topics. This is a catchall topic linked on the bundle pages.

Adding tradables from bundle pages leads to better accuracy, simplifies the discovery of problems like undocumented region locks, and allows for automatic tradable corrections.

Reporting any issue, even seemingly minor ones, can improve the bundle pages and also potentially the existing and yet-to-be-added tradables collections.
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luckz 2017년 12월 5일 오전 5시 37분 
Groupees Jonny's Jams - https://barter.vg/bundle/287/ - https://groupees.com/jonnyjams
is missing:
- Gun Rocket Desura key
- Gun Rocket Steam key http://store.steampowered.com/app/391420/Gun_Rocket/
- Proto Raider Steam key http://store.steampowered.com/app/386050/Proto_Raider/
- Yury itch.io key
- Yury Desura key

all tier 1
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theemu 2017년 12월 5일 오전 5시 57분 
luckz님이 먼저 게시:
Groupees Jonny's Jams - https://barter.vg/bundle/287/ - https://groupees.com/jonnyjams
is missing:
- Gun Rocket Desura key
- Gun Rocket Steam key
- Proto Raider Steam key
- Yury itch.io key
- Yury Desura key

all tier 1
Should be fixed now. Gun Rocket Desura version was already there. Tier 2 was also missing Jamsouls (Steam).

Regarding these old bundles, there is an on-going effort (and has been in the past 6 months) to check & fix all of them, but given the large amount of the bundles it takes time. Getting new bundles added and fixing other issues usually takes higher priority.

I think missing Steam game entries are good to report when noticed, so they would get taken care of asap. Desura & itch.io etc keys are lower priority I think, but of course eventually the goal is to get all those added too. Report them also if there is some good reason why their adding should be prioritized. Good reason is for example that you can get Steam key from Desura or itch.io, the key has expiration etc.
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ellipsism 2017년 12월 5일 오전 6시 13분 
theemu님이 먼저 게시:
Should be fixed now. Gun Rocket desura was already there. Tier 2 was also missing Jamsouls.
Thanks for fixing that so quickly.

I added an overview to every bundle page with a link to report errors. Those links lead here. Anyone can report any error or omission. We can triage requests and errors with the newest Steam game bundles having the highest priority and old, non-Steam, non-tradable having the lowest.
luckz 2017년 12월 8일 오전 10시 30분 
Milouze님이 먼저 게시:
I believe
https://barter.vg/bundle/2242/

should include
https://barter.vg/i/34905/

and not
https://barter.vg/i/20743/
Yep, checked key to verify and fixed.
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HaloInverse 2017년 12월 24일 오후 8시 14분 
The entry for Humble Monthly #19[barter.vg] incorrectly includes "GONNER". The bundle actually includes "GONNER - Press Jump To Die Edition"[www.humblebundle.com], which includes both the base game and the OST.

There is a corresponding bundle on Steam, but it is merely labeled "GONNER + OST".
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theemu 2017년 12월 25일 오전 2시 58분 
HaloInverse님이 먼저 게시:
The entry for Humble Monthly #19[barter.vg] incorrectly includes "GONNER". The bundle actually includes "GONNER - Press Jump To Die Edition"[www.humblebundle.com], which includes both the base game and the OST.

There is a corresponding bundle on Steam, but it is merely labeled "GONNER + OST".
Thanks for reporting.
it's been added: https://barter.vg/i/60682/ = https://steamdb.info/sub/130669/ and it seems to be labeled "GoNNER - Press Jump To Die Edition" when activated.

There are differing opinions is it useful to add "basegame + OST" versions of all games to Barter. The inclusion of the OST can also be presented using the tag choice "+soundtrack ♫" or "+DLC".

edit: Now with the new changes the package is now always added to bundle if the key activation includes more than 1 item. This way the items in the package get 'bundled in package' status count as well automaticly.
Exception to this only possible in cases like the item is app with type Tool or Config or otherwise such item that can't obtained on their own separately anyway. Example: Civilization IV always includes the Mac version as separate app: https://steamdb.info/sub/4322/apps/
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Doktor Schliemann 2017년 12월 26일 오전 11시 54분 
The entry for Fanatical RPG Bundle[barter.vg] includes Eschalon: Book 1 which, being a free game, isn't really included in the bundle.

Thanks for your work! Happy Holidays!

EDIT: Incorrect report, as pointed out by the post below.
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theemu 2017년 12월 26일 오후 12시 35분 
Doktor Schliemann님이 먼저 게시:
The entry for Fanatical RPG Bundle[barter.vg] includes Eschalon: Book 1 which, being a free game, isn't really included in the bundle.
I bought the bundle few days ago, and I can verify it does include valid CD key for that game. I don't understand the logic why it shouldn't be included in the bundle?

CD key version does grant you different license package https://steamdb.info/sub/8706/ than the free version https://steamdb.info/sub/163344/
- both packages do contain the same game (same apps & depots) in this case, but:
- the paid version adds +1 to Steam library count, but the free version does not always. Some exceptions: https://www.reddit.com/r/Steam/comments/6g3ewz/new_f2p_games_that_add_1_to_your_game_library/ and the free version does not always stay in your local library listing unless you have the game installed
- if trading cards get added to the game in future, the free version "owners" don't get them usually (there are exceptions to this also of course)

https://barter.vg/i/927/ has now been marked as "$0 Given Away: Add To Account For Free". This is probably what you asked for? :)
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ellipsism 2017년 12월 26일 오후 1시 51분 
HaloInverse님이 먼저 게시:
The entry for Humble Monthly #19[barter.vg] incorrectly includes "GONNER". The bundle actually includes "GONNER - Press Jump To Die Edition"[www.humblebundle.com], which includes both the base game and the OST.
Thanks for reporting this.

theemu님이 먼저 게시:
There are differing opinions is it useful to add "basegame + OST" versions of games to Barter. Because the inclusion of the OST can be presented using the tag system choice "+soundtrack ♫".
I think you made the right decision changing to the packages. There are complications to using packages instead of apps, but rather than make the data fit the existing site functions, it's likely better to change the site to match the most accurate data.

Doktor Schliemann님이 먼저 게시:
The entry for Fanatical RPG Bundle[barter.vg] includes Eschalon: Book 1 which, being a free game, isn't really included in the bundle.
There are several bundles that included keys for free-to-play games, although usually the game is bundled and then later goes free-to-play / free-to-download. A stranger case is when a bundle includes a key for a demo, e.g. https://barter.vg/bundle/1799/

There should be better notices about these situations, but for the reasons theemu listed, there are still reasons to trade for these keys.
Doktor Schliemann 2017년 12월 26일 오후 1시 52분 
theemu님이 먼저 게시:
Doktor Schliemann님이 먼저 게시:
The entry for Fanatical RPG Bundle[barter.vg] includes Eschalon: Book 1 which, being a free game, isn't really included in the bundle.
I bought the bundle few days ago, and I can verify it does include valid CD key for that game. I don't understand the logic why it shouldn't be included in the bundle?
You are right, I've just bought the bundle and there is a key for "Eschalon: Book I" too. Anyway the bundle page[www.fanatical.com] in the store doesn't report it as part of the bundle (it says: "discover 8 magical Steam games"), hence my mistake.

theemu님이 먼저 게시:
https://barter.vg/i/927/ has now been marked as "$0 Given Away: Add To Account For Free". This is probably what you asked for? :)
I added that trading notice myself, but I am going to remove it since you had clearly explained me the difference between the paid version and the free one. :-)
Doktor Schliemann 2017년 12월 26일 오후 2시 00분 
Barter.vg님이 먼저 게시:
Doktor Schliemann님이 먼저 게시:
The entry for Fanatical RPG Bundle[barter.vg] includes Eschalon: Book 1 which, being a free game, isn't really included in the bundle.
There are several bundles that included keys for free-to-play games, although usually the game is bundled and then later goes free-to-play / free-to-download. A stranger case is when a bundle includes a key for a demo, e.g. https://barter.vg/bundle/1799/

There should be better notices about these situations, but for the reasons theemu listed, there are still reasons to trade for these keys.
You and theemu are right as I already said to it in the post above, sorry for the mistake.
Thanks again for your work!
luckz 2017년 12월 26일 오후 2시 15분 
theemu님이 먼저 게시:
There are differing opinions is it useful to add "basegame + OST" versions of games to Barter. Because the inclusion of the OST can be presented using the tag system choice "+soundtrack ♫".
The tag is useful if the soundtrack is a separate download provided in the bundle, and not part of the Steam version given out in said bundle.
ellipsism 2017년 12월 26일 오후 2시 20분 
Doktor Schliemann님이 먼저 게시:
You and theemu are right as I already said to it in the post above, sorry for the mistake.
It's not your mistake, it's a fair question given that Fanatical doesn't list the game. Thanks for reporting it, that's this topic's purpose.

luckz님이 먼저 게시:
The tag is useful if the soundtrack is a separate download provided in the bundle, and not part of the Steam version given out in said bundle.
There is ambiguity with the tag's current name. Originally, it was "+DRM-free soundtrack ♫" and I think that should remain the tag's purpose.
theemu 2017년 12월 26일 오후 3시 51분 
Then again, in usual trading scenario, if you have basegame+DLC package version for trade, I would assume usually you are looking to trade with someone who does not have the game at all. Activating the whole package just to get the DLC is sometimes considered "wasteful", depending of course for example on the value of the game and what it is traded for.

Also, in current matching system, in order to maximize all possible matches, need to also add the basegame separately to your tradables. Not everyone care for the OST so if you only add the basegame+DLC package to your tradables, those who don't know about the existence of the package version, or only care for the game itself won't find your tradable by matching particularly if they want wishlisted items only. This is becoming more topical the more we add these packages to database, and I assume many traders now miss trade opportunities because they don't get all matches with their package items added from the bundle page. Maybe this has been fixed recently IDK, I don't trade much myself anymore.

Now knowing it's intended purpose, I agree that the "+soundtrack" tag should keep it's original use. Maybe then it should be renamed back to "+DRM-free soundtrack"? Particularly on the bundle pages it would be more accurate, rather than presenting false impression that there might be a Steam version of the soundtrack included.
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