Btw it is intended Turkey on Nazi path (New path - Ittihat) can not get rid of Black market penalty? It is very taxing PP gain, hence no unity decisions to combat war support and stability penalties, hence constant strikes...

Also noted bug? When some focuses slightly decrease the penalty but it is not listed in focus until researched (eg. Clodius agreement - decrease Black amrket penalty appeared on it only after finishing the focus)

Thanks a lot.

The flag is active for 180 days when GER starts barbarossa, so afterwards you can set it. Tho note that the "Winter Heating" spirit still tells the AI to cease attacks

ok. If I want to try another game, shall I use same command? And when? After Barb. start?

Thank you, there was a bug in GERs timed offensive mechanics. You can fix it yourself by right clicking Germany so the diplo screen appears and then enter in console "set_flag ai_GER_eastern_offensive 1" without the "

yes just found that out after reverting the game lol, should have asked before XD

(btw it is BICE test on 17.1.)

https://fileport.io/hZSnTyUeVbeq

Moscow fall jsut few days ago but it was due persistent Romania attack, Germans were jsut walking around filling the frontline.

via the discord or smth like a dropbox link here

Can you send me your save?

@Sol: inope, there is no witner modfiier but I observe only Romania and other Axis minosr to actively push to Moscow and other key areas, Germany stay completely passive, despite there is basically no opposition and they have free enemy tiles everwhere.

@gmsh1964 - I think you are right. It is few years I played BICE last time but dont rememebr it like this. I made now test game wher I deleted all soviet forces and equipment. In vanilla behavior AI would jsut widely take over evrything in no time. In BICE.. Germany stay religiously hesitating. They seem be scripted to never push further to Moscow for example and keep the line same as if enemy is in fulls trength there. Actually it seems minors like Romania progress but German units jsut follow.

I can live woth some AI buff or when it dont take attrition when it should, etc, but It is not fun if the AI is heavily rigged to fail like this and you absolutely have to play as one of the major to have fair chance for your faction.

the AI is told not to attack during winter, maybe its that? Apart from that theres no limitations. The AI is not artifically held back

Sung to the tune of "All I want for Christmas"
All I want for Christmas is a BICE patch up , a BICE patch up, a BICE patch up
All I want for Christmas is a BICE patch up , so I could have a Merry Christmas!!!!!

Vceli. I believe from your questions that you do not know all of the AI cheats in BICE. The cheats have become much worst the past 4 years. I do not feel like typing all of the cheats but I do suggest you stop playing BICE. Good gaming to you.

Interesting Germany is not able keep air with Soviets even if they control just fraction of resoures and industry. Also checked detials of air loses and most seems be in Soviet union. What catched my eye was Kursk with 5.746.286 disrupted bombers... sure those numbers can be high but 5 millions? SImialr numbers are in Belarus and other contact areas too. Idk if there is nto some bug going.

Ok, so another game, this time as Turkey and similar result - everythign fine until suddenly Soviets roll over Germany late year. This time I checked around and I think I see the culprit. The issue is not coal or energy, whatever.. It seasm AI cheat this as it dont prodcue any energy but have no shortage either.

The issue is actually logistic and supply. Namely trains. AI Germany lose air, even against Soviets. Than it is susceptible to logistic strikes and lose all trains in very short time span. Than it collapse quickly,despite doing well in other game aspects, even building supply depots and railroads.

ALso Germany has no single mil on trains.

@Spinz - thats the issue for me, beause I really did nto see anwyhting suggesting Germany would have such issues. Their divisions were equiped, numerous enough, they had large manpower resource covered fornt just fine and made slow but steadily progress (as noted captured Stalingrad and Leningrad too). They did nto get distracted by Allies landing or other reaosn why start go crazy with armies alloocation.

But than around 1947 it was like Soviets got 100% buff and jsut steamrolled all fronts in no time.

the mud and snow changes did not get integrated into BICE - if anything with the new DLC germany completely dominates right now and soviets fall in 42

I have no way responding to this guy Vceli, but I was also wondering the same thing, the main the reasons I think Germany (A.I. only) is not doing well is because of coal management, the new navy supply, and also if you look into paradox patches they made mud and snow affecting attacking units much more more now. also paradox makes dlc and balance of power in the scope if someone has all the dlcs, if you do not then you are in for a longggg game

Also kinda curious - what cause Soviets to steamrol Germany out of nowhere?

Played Axis Bulgaria. I took repsonsibility for help destroy allies landings. The game went ok for a Axis. Since 42 the ront in Soviet union and basially everywhere become stable. But by 45-46 we started to progress Germany captured Leningrad, Stalingrad.. evne though fron did nto mvoe so much as whole. italy made exceptional progress - captured whole North Africa, Suez, Iraq, Started push into iran.. Soviet Union loses kept piling up... but than like on button switch Soviets started counteroffensive totally steamrolled Germany and all in few months. By loses they lost 3M manpower doing those but were totally unstopable. That depsite Germany has 1M manpower reserves, no Allies landed anywhere... I dont complain, I just dont understand what could cause such dramatic turn of event in such small timeframe.

I miss Engine production resources - can they be traded for or I need all types of factories myself?

oooop. of COURSE

@ALL

All TEST saves are of ciurse broken.

@ALL:

Test Version updated
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/changelog/1851181613

yea its because the mods in a different main version BICE is in 1.16.10 were now version 1.17.1

I have the latest DLC, but the mod crashes everytime. Is it normal?

need to start a new game

something you might wanna check is aluminium production with 1.16.10 and current Black Ice. (loading save game makes you have 0 aluminium production and if you have taken memel and are warring soviets, there is Memel Lithuania event that CTDs the game even when i already have memel etc. or do you guys mean that we need to just start a new game ?

@BERSERK 1.16.10 works on MAIN only. TEST requires the current HOI IV version.

@sol i have not latest dlc but i cant play 1.16.10 now. its crashes everytime. What sholud i do ?

I made it work with old copy, what are you talking about "wouldn"t work"

correct, even if it were provided it wouldnt work in this case due to the integration of the event gfx

There is no old version on github its not paradox fault there are not tags in repository.

♥♥♥♥..... the same again after update. game is not runing now.

Chill out if you want to blame it on anyone blame it on paradox

HOW DO I RETAINS MY FKING CURRENT SAVE GAME AND JUST PLAY I HATE YOU,

It works on 1.16.10

main still does not work.

1.16.10; for the new DLC use the test version https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1851181613

All crash here as well. What is the correct hoi4 version?

Are you on the correct hoi4 version?

its just me or orther have the same thing? (after i start game with blackice it suddenly crashes everytime)

just reporting with 1.16.10 my save has no aluminium production even when i have factories and aluminium raw reseources. so ill just wait for new Black Ice release and start a new game :) thx , and lithuania PRC or something event CTDs the game (memel) (even when i am halfway to moscow already).

Is there a way to stop every update of this mod from breaking the save games? In my naivety I assumed that by reverting base game to v1.16.10 and keeping the Main BICE (not the Test mod) I would be able to continue on my game - that's not the case. I also assumed there would be a "previous version" BICE mod on the workshop specifically to allow people to complete their games before taking in the new update... that also apprears not to be the case.

Do I need to create a second install of HOI4, and copy over BICE mod folder to it so that workshop cant update? The mod is great, but I've had to abandon >5 latest runs as Germany before reaching 1943 due to an update breaking the save.

only Main, Test is for the newest Hoi4 version

@darthkenson:
does it mean we should reactivate 1.16.10 in Main AND Test to avoid crashes or Test only (I have tcd while loading both...)?

Just wondering if you guys have any plans to adopt a similar doctrine system to what they added in the update? I think the way they implemented it is pretty neat and I'm sure you guys could find a cool way to adapt it to BICE.

@It's Isa Everyone was warned of an update coming with the next Paradox dlc update for Test. Main can be rolled back to 1.16.10 to rock on :)

best mod ever but just crashes and saved files are unplayable plus lost my 3 week progress