Steam bans VN without reasons?

[Satsujinki]

Recently I was surfing on the reddit and noticed Hello Goodbye was gone. So I had to check this out on the steam and it was recently gone. I was like, wtf? Aren't they suppose to follow their policy when they're not taste police?

And the other devs still hasn't gotten reply from Valve and nothing much. So what the hell is going on here?

I'm not sure why did employee kept banning the VN games without starting the fire and gotten away with it.

[DarkSpartan]

Did anyone actually believe that? It's specially funny after you read again the "Who gets to be on the Steam store" post from a few months back.

[werhsre334]

I have heard about a few Valve employees that seem to cutting games quietly.

[wuddih]

did you contact the original developer or the modern scamartist known as nekonyan?

[Satsujinki]

Origineel geplaatst door wuddih:

did you contact the original developer or the modern scamartist known as nekonyan?

Ah nah. Still wait to hear from them and no luck for their response from officials.

Origineel geplaatst door Roger the Shrubber:

I have heard about a few Valve employees that seem to cutting games quietly.

I’m pretty sure it was only one or two employees became rogue after the new policy implemented. This would be simple if s/he would quit after a new policy, instead keeping their position. However it did not make sense to me because they kept their positions in order to keep deleting VN and others quietly.

[DarkSpartan]

Steam is indeed banning even All-Ages VNs now. So they lied yet again to their customers. Congratulations "Taste Police" https://twitter.com/NekoNyanSoft/status/1070298415303663616

[Count_Dandyman]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/423640/Negligee_Animated_Edition/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/931560/Seven_Days/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/963010/KIMIEOKURU_SORA_NO_HANA/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/657580/What_My_Neighbors_Are_Demons/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/796940/Red_Embrace/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/321190/Cho_Dengeki_Stryker_All_Ages_Version/
I'd say that small ample quickly gathered shows there is no crusade by Valve and while we may not yet have the full details this wouldn't be the first time devs or publishers tried lying to blame a censorship conspiracy behind the scenes at Valve instead of admitting what they have done that led to the games being pulled.

[JaguarEX]

Origineel geplaatst door Count_Dandyman:

I'd say that small ample quickly gathered shows there is no crusade by Valve and while we may not yet have the full details this wouldn't be the first time devs or publishers tried lying to blame a censorship conspiracy behind the scenes at Valve instead of admitting what they have done that led to the games being pulled.

Your are completely wrong sir, it's not games that are on steam that they are attacking but games that are pending release on steam. This company has two rogue employees that need to be fired immedately.

[Count_Dandyman]

Origineel geplaatst door Gothic Vintage:

Origineel geplaatst door Count_Dandyman:

I'd say that small ample quickly gathered shows there is no crusade by Valve and while we may not yet have the full details this wouldn't be the first time devs or publishers tried lying to blame a censorship conspiracy behind the scenes at Valve instead of admitting what they have done that led to the games being pulled.

Your are completely wrong sir, it's not games that are on steam that they are attacking but games that are pending release on steam. This company has two rogue employees that need to be fired immedately.

Take a look again at the list I linked

[Brujeira]

Origineel geplaatst door Gothic Vintage:

Origineel geplaatst door Count_Dandyman:

I'd say that small ample quickly gathered shows there is no crusade by Valve and while we may not yet have the full details this wouldn't be the first time devs or publishers tried lying to blame a censorship conspiracy behind the scenes at Valve instead of admitting what they have done that led to the games being pulled.

Your are completely wrong sir, it's not games that are on steam that they are attacking but games that are pending release on steam. This company has two rogue employees that need to be fired immedately.

Funny, seeing as four of the games that the Count linked are pending release. I have a feeling that the dev may not be completely blameless here, but we'll wait and see.

[cinedine]

Origineel geplaatst door DarkSpartan "NotTheTastePolice":

Steam is indeed banning even All-Ages VNs now. So they lied yet again to their customers. Congratulations "Taste Police" https://twitter.com/NekoNyanSoft/status/1070298415303663616

Strange that the "taste police" seems to affect only one single publisher who is known for misleading its customers and lying on their store pages.

[Spawn of Totoro]

Origineel geplaatst door Gothic Vintage:

Your are completely wrong sir, it's not games that are on steam that they are attacking but games that are pending release on steam. This company has two rogue employees that need to be fired immedately.

There are no "rogue" employees. From what I gather, such decisions are group decisions not the decision of an individual. If it were one or two "rogue" employees, then it would have been stopped by now.

The name(s) of Valve employees on the e-mails are due to them being the ones sending them, nothing more. There is no way to know if they were even part of the decision. For all anyone knows, they defended the games and are now being villainized for something that was no their choice.

People really need to stop making assumptions about such things.

[DarkSpartan]

Origineel geplaatst door cinedine:

Origineel geplaatst door DarkSpartan "NotTheTastePolice":

Steam is indeed banning even All-Ages VNs now. So they lied yet again to their customers. Congratulations "Taste Police" https://twitter.com/NekoNyanSoft/status/1070298415303663616

Strange that the "taste police" seems to affect only one single publisher who is known for misleading its customers and lying on their store pages.

Yeah, one single developer

https://www.reddit.com/r/Steam/comments/a3dri7/valve_started_again_to_deleteprevent_visual_novel/

[Count_Dandyman]

Origineel geplaatst door DarkSpartan "NotTheTastePolice":

Origineel geplaatst door cinedine:

Strange that the "taste police" seems to affect only one single publisher who is known for misleading its customers and lying on their store pages.

Yeah, one single developer

https://www.reddit.com/r/Steam/comments/a3dri7/valve_started_again_to_deleteprevent_visual_novel/

Oooh and look how that thread points out all the games in question share a common theme of younger characters in sexual situations almost like there wasn't 0 reason to do it just like last time someone made this claim.

[Malamasala]

It would help if Valve had rules and standards. Currently they claim to have one for all games not illegal or trolling, but then they do not follow it.

If they want obscure extra rules, it would help if they listed them. Like "No games with schools". then people don't even have to bother trying to sell them.

[cinedine]

Origineel geplaatst door Malamasala:

It would help if Valve had rules and standards. Currently they claim to have one for all games not illegal or trolling, but then they do not follow it.

I wish people would stop their selective quoting:

As we mentioned earlier, laws vary around the world, so we're going to need to handle this on a case-by-case basis. As a result, we will almost certainly continue to struggle with this one for a while. Our current thinking is that we're going to push developers to further disclose any potentially problematic content in their games during the submission process, and cease doing business with any of them that refuse to do so honestly. We'll still continue to perform technical evaluations of submissions, rejecting games that don't pass until their issues have been resolved.

https://steamcommunity.com/games/593110/announcements/detail/1666776116200553082

Here's something which is going to help sturggling developers: don't make games with questionable content.