Linux version planned?

[Bounty Hunter]

Is there a Linux version planned?

[Mr Freeman #ITA]

+1

[stan]

Linuuuuuxxxxxx please

[Bloody Butterfly]

+1

[Da Huntress]

Can I ask, as someone who is just getting into Ubuntu right now, what is the appeal? Other than the apparent thing of no spyware or telemetry marketing.

I've been using it a little bit and it seems like a lot of work for little payoff right now. What are these reasons you guys use linux?

[Zyro]

Originally posted by Always Tier 1 Michael:

Can I ask, as someone who is just getting into Ubuntu right now, what is the appeal? Other than the apparent thing of no spyware or telemetry marketing.

I've been using it a little bit and it seems like a lot of work for little payoff right now. What are these reasons you guys use linux?

Also the suboptimal place to ask, but my reason to try it out, besides being curious, is that Windows showed a bug that infuriated me back then. Then I found out about open source, and while I'm not strict about it obviously (otherwise I wouldn't be here), I prefer it to closed source. (I actually did fix some bugs in software I've been using.) What I sometimes live and sometimes hate is the feeling that if it doesn't work under Linux, it feels like it's your fault. (If it doesn't work under Windows, it's obviously Microsoft's fault. ;-D )
[To be continued]

[zaggyNL]

Originally posted by Always Tier 1 Michael:

Can I ask, as someone who is just getting into Ubuntu right now, what is the appeal? Other than the apparent thing of no spyware or telemetry marketing.

I've been using it a little bit and it seems like a lot of work for little payoff right now. What are these reasons you guys use linux?

My thoughts, someone please correct me if I'm wrong:

-No spyware as mentioned
-No forced telemetry as mentioned
-Updates at my own pace
-Far better commandline
-It's free, actually free, no trading your data for a service
-Actual repositories vs running random exe files and vendor lock in appstores (chocolatey on Windows helps though)
-Given enough time and motivation you can change your LInux installation as you want it
-Installation of Linux has been very easy since Ubuntu and equivalents became mature
-Very easy to revive an old PC that doesn't run a supported Windows OS with Linux, usually replacing a HDD with an SSD, adding some memory and replacing the battery do the trick for business class laptops.
-Linux was one of the first with bootable media like CDRs (Knoppix) to diagnose PCs outside of their own OS, nowadays Windows2go exists
Most popular distros have a live version of their bootable media, allowing you to try it out on a PC.

Tips for someone just getting into Linux:
-Keep notes
-Keep backups
-Don't be afraid to break things and reinstall
-To save time, learn in a VM with virtualbox, hyper-v or hypervisor of your choice, snapshots are awesome!
-Looking at different distros is fun but try to pick one major distro and stick with it, major ones are Debian based, Fedora based, Arch based, OpenSuse based, Gentoo based
Manjaro and Ubuntu are easy beginner distros.

[Me]

Originally posted by Always Tier 1 Michael:

Can I ask, as someone who is just getting into Ubuntu right now, what is the appeal? Other than the apparent thing of no spyware or telemetry marketing.

I've been using it a little bit and it seems like a lot of work for little payoff right now. What are these reasons you guys use linux?

I just use it for work. Since all our servers run on Linux (some are Debian, some Ubuntu) it makes more sense to just use Linux to connect to them. It's not really needed anymore since Windows 10 has a built in ssh client now, but I've gotten used to Linux.

I still dual boot with Windows to play games, use Photoshop, etc.

[BtB]

All my servers and work machines are Linux. Since Raspberry Pis, Wink hubs, and many other IoT devices run Linux, it's just something good to know.

On my servers, the benefit is even greater, as Microsoft servers end up charging you based on how many processors you have. As my servers have 8 and 12 cores (both two physical processors) putting Windows on them would require even more expensive versions of expensive OSes. When I run a dozen VMs on the same machine . . . yeah, I'm not pricing that.

The reason why I converted my gaming laptop is because Windows 10 killed my OS with an unrequested update three times in a week. Also, they'd randomly reset my trackpad driver, causing me hours of pain each time as I needed to reset the system to allow the keyboard/track pad to work at the same time, as it was an unsupported feature, apparently.

This was with every effort to disable updates, including black-listing the Microsoft servers with my DNS.

Now I have a VM and a physical Lenovo for all my Windows needs . . . except gaming. I'm not even sure what will happen when I turn on my old Win 7 desktop.

Now, as a side effect, I've grown to bring more of my life in-house. OneDrive? You mean NextCloud? In house, no monthly fee. Web hosting? Apache. More saved money. Tracking my phones, mileage, etc? Traccar. Smart fridge inventory database, exercise tracker, CMS, property management, game servers, etc? All in-house.

The average user gains no real benefit from running Linux. A GUI on an x86_64 computer is mostly identical to the others these days. It's all about software support, which was always the choice between Windows and Mac. Linux CAN run a good chunk of Windows software, but not all of it, and it can't be trusted to run business critical software from Windows.

The user who wants to tweak or learn will LOVE Linux.

The user who wants to run their own software, servers, and networks should start with Linux. If you need AD over Kerberos and Linux AD systems . . . you'll learn that and why you'd need to use it. Otherwise, Linux does 90% of what anyone needs, and if you stick to Ubuntu, CentOS, and other FOSS distros and software, you can learn as much as you want and go as far as you can with no software fees. We ran a business 100% on FOSS.

Again, if you just want to play games . . . it's probably the wrong choice.

[MekaDragon]

+1 for GNU/Linux!

Will buy once this game supports it.

[leo523]

+1 for a native linux version!

[TuxGamer]

Linux release already please

[Patola [Linux]]

Originally posted by Always Tier 1 Michael:

Can I ask, as someone who is just getting into Ubuntu right now, what is the appeal? Other than the apparent thing of no spyware or telemetry marketing.

I've been using it a little bit and it seems like a lot of work for little payoff right now. What are these reasons you guys use linux?

With Windows, the software that controls your property (PC) is not yours. It's from Microsoft and they decide what you can and cannot do. So in practice, "your" property belongs to Microsoft.
With Linux, where there is a free market of various distributions, subsystems, software and such, which prevents one entity from controlling everything, and most stuff is open for scrutiny (open-source philosophy), there is no such hijacking of control of your property. You decide what your PC does and doesn't. So your property is actually yours. This difference is enormous, basal and unbeatable.

[Da Huntress]

Originally posted by Patola Linux #L2G:

Originally posted by Always Tier 1 Michael:

Can I ask, as someone who is just getting into Ubuntu right now, what is the appeal? Other than the apparent thing of no spyware or telemetry marketing.

I've been using it a little bit and it seems like a lot of work for little payoff right now. What are these reasons you guys use linux?

With Windows, the software that controls your property (PC) is not yours. It's from Microsoft and they decide what you can and cannot do. So in practice, "your" property belongs to Microsoft.
With Linux, where there is a free market of various distributions, subsystems, software and such, which prevents one entity from controlling everything, and most stuff is open for scrutiny (open-source philosophy), there is no such hijacking of control of your property. You decide what your PC does and doesn't. So your property is actually yours. This difference is enormous, basal and unbeatable.

I'm currently working through a linux command line book right now. I am starting to see what you're saying, but I'm wondering if it's really worth losing a bit of control to have things work normally (and of course everything supports windows).

Right now though I'm just learning stuff that's available in Microsoft Powershell, so we'll see if my eyes are opened when we get to stuff we can't do in windows

[Zyro]

Originally posted by Always Tier 1 Michael:

I'm currently working through a linux command line book right now. I am starting to see what you're saying, but I'm wondering if it's really worth losing a bit of control to have things work normally (and of course everything supports windows).

Right now though I'm just learning stuff that's available in Microsoft Powershell, so we'll see if my eyes are opened when we get to stuff we can't do in windows

Although most help on the net will use shell commands (for ease of use and reproducibility), you can reach most stuff in Linux without it. That said, shells, be it bash or Powershell, are powerful and worth knowing.

[Zyro]

Originally posted by Zyro:

Originally posted by Always Tier 1 Michael:

I'm currently working through a linux command line book right now. I am starting to see what you're saying, but I'm wondering if it's really worth losing a bit of control to have things work normally (and of course everything supports windows).

Right now though I'm just learning stuff that's available in Microsoft Powershell, so we'll see if my eyes are opened when we get to stuff we can't do in windows

Although most help on the net will use shell commands (for ease of use and reproducibility), you can reach most stuff in Linux without it. That said, shells, be it bash or Powershell, are powerful and worth knowing.

Maybe this thread is of interest to you, it's by a Linux beginner and tacles this and other topics:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/221410/discussions/0/1658943011695570353/