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Just Carl Feb 12, 2017 @ 4:39pm
Convert All Blocks to Diffrent Tier/Material
No idea if this is planed or been discussed, but a tool to convert all blocks on a ship to the next, or lower tier is defiantly needed. My thinking behind it is simple, build a ship in iron(since right now there is no way to tell how expensive it is going to be in creative), load it up in your survival world, and then upgrade the haul to whatever suits you. It would be really nice to have and save a lot of time. cheers :)

Edit I know there's Ctrl+A for selection all blocks for deletion, but used for nothing else...At least I think >.>
Last edited by Just Carl; Feb 12, 2017 @ 4:41pm
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Centerpoint108 Feb 12, 2017 @ 4:41pm 
There is currently a button on the left to transform a block into a block on your hot bar
Giltirn Feb 12, 2017 @ 4:41pm 
I heard that if you select all your blocks and make a blueprint out of them (the green collections of pre-made pieces in the low part of the screen), when you select the blueprint you can choose the material used. So if you do this then delete the parts you want to replace then it should be doable.
Just Carl Feb 12, 2017 @ 4:42pm 
Originally posted by Centerpoint108:
There is currently a button on the left to transform a block into a block on your hot bar


True, but its a block at a time, I was talking about the entire ship all at once, unless I missed that.

Originally posted by Giltirn:
I heard that if you select all your blocks and make a blueprint out of them (the green collections of pre-made pieces in the low part of the screen), when you select the blueprint you can choose the material used. So if you do this then delete the parts you want to replace then it should be doable.


Hmm interesting. I'll check right now.
Last edited by Just Carl; Feb 12, 2017 @ 4:44pm
Hanzo Feb 12, 2017 @ 4:45pm 
Originally posted by Drunk Carl:
Originally posted by Centerpoint108:
There is currently a button on the left to transform a block into a block on your hot bar


True, but its a block at a time, I was talking about the entire ship all at once, unless I missed that.

This is a great question. There is no way to reach internal blocks to individually upgrade them, I can't find a way to upgrade all. I know it would be a ton of resources and money, but it should be an option.
Just Carl Feb 12, 2017 @ 4:49pm 
Originally posted by hanzo581:
Originally posted by Drunk Carl:


True, but its a block at a time, I was talking about the entire ship all at once, unless I missed that.

This is a great question. There is no way to reach internal blocks to individually upgrade them, I can't find a way to upgrade all. I know it would be a ton of resources and money, but it should be an option.


My thoughts exactly. You build this nice ship, but now you have to rip it apart to upgrade the internals. You can already select all blocks, might as well add the option of upgrading the materials used.
Last edited by Just Carl; Feb 12, 2017 @ 4:49pm
Just Carl Feb 12, 2017 @ 5:03pm 
Originally posted by Giltirn:
I heard that if you select all your blocks and make a blueprint out of them (the green collections of pre-made pieces in the low part of the screen), when you select the blueprint you can choose the material used. So if you do this then delete the parts you want to replace then it should be doable.


Alright so looking around and trying different things, I was unable to build a ship(currently in iron) into a different materiel. So yes a good implementation would either to be able to select which material to be used when applying plan, or select the ship after being built and then select the material. Either or. All I know is it is definitely something needed to help with the building process. Would be highly accepted.
John Bolter Feb 12, 2017 @ 7:18pm 
You can do it with the template menu.

1.Select your whole ship whith the box select tool
2.Select the normal select tool und Unselect the ship core (ctrl+left klick) (your core has to be exposed for this)
3.Press ctrl+c
4.Go into your block menu, hover over a free spot in the template menu (the green boxes)
Press ctrl+v

5.Make a new ship near your first ship go into build mode, select in the top right corner under template material select your desired material.
6.Select your ship in the template menu and press ctrl+v, now a ghostly version of your ship has appeared
7.Put your ship on the new ship core exaclty where the old one was (pressing the alt key and selecting a snap point helps.
8.Klick and see your new ship in its full new material glory.
9. Get your stuff from your old ship to your new one and destroy the old one by selecting all and turning off safe mode and then (pressing del)

After finishing it seek medical attention because if you have to do that 6 times you go insane...

I hope a feature will help us in the future.
Last edited by John Bolter; Feb 12, 2017 @ 7:53pm
MadnessTA Feb 12, 2017 @ 7:23pm 
Ctrl-A select whole ship
Ctrl-C copy, go into block menu mouse over area with prefabs
Ctrl-V paste it
build new ship/turn ship into just core block, attach thin long piece to it
grab preset, select mat type at top of block menu
Q can rescale evenly, place at end of long block
turn off safe mode, delete core block and thin piece
Last edited by MadnessTA; Feb 12, 2017 @ 7:24pm
Flash Feb 12, 2017 @ 8:06pm 
Yes, use the transform-button in the build-menu.
Aurelia Feb 12, 2017 @ 8:11pm 
Originally posted by John Bolter:
You can do it with the template menu.

1.Select your whole ship whith the box select tool
2.Select the normal select tool und Unselect the ship core (ctrl+left klick) (your core has to be exposed for this)
3.Press ctrl+c
4.Go into your block menu, hover over a free spot in the template menu (the green boxes)
Press ctrl+v

5.Make a new ship near your first ship go into build mode, select in the top right corner under template material select your desired material.
6.Select your ship in the template menu and press ctrl+v, now a ghostly version of your ship has appeared
7.Put your ship on the new ship core exaclty where the old one was (pressing the alt key and selecting a snap point helps.
8.Klick and see your new ship in its full new material glory.
9. Get your stuff from your old ship to your new one and destroy the old one by selecting all and turning off safe mode and then (pressing del)

After finishing it seek medical attention because if you have to do that 6 times you go insane...

I hope a feature will help us in the future.

Indeed. It's nice to be able to do this as it is, but it's many steps more than what you can already do in the shipyard (just select a silly material). I would also like to see a scaling in the Saved ships selection window instead of having to scale it all this abstract way.

The functionality obviously already exists within the game (shipyard).. Just need to add it to the build interface.
Last edited by Aurelia; Feb 12, 2017 @ 8:12pm
Vahnkiljoy Feb 12, 2017 @ 8:35pm 
BTW you CAN get to your internal blocks, just fly the camera INSIDE your ship, whatever block you're inside of will be what gets selected than you can transform it to the correct one you want. I agree though an Tier UPGRADE button would be much easier to do I think.
FightinWelsh Feb 12, 2017 @ 8:39pm 
go into the %APPDAT% folder (hidden) and make a copy of the XML file then edit it and do a find and replace all for Material="0" (iron) and change the number to whatever material type you want i.e. 1 for titanium ect..

then when you go to make a new ship that blueprint will be there only a new material.. you still have to actually BUILD it but at leats you can convert the blueprint.
Itharus Feb 12, 2017 @ 9:22pm 
Core blocks? Ruh roh... I deleted mine when making my first ship. This going to be a problem later on?
Incredibad Feb 12, 2017 @ 9:31pm 
also with using the tmplate menu u can make it bigger as well
Armitage Shanks Feb 15, 2017 @ 3:21am 
Originally posted by hanzo581:
Originally posted by Drunk Carl:


True, but its a block at a time, I was talking about the entire ship all at once, unless I missed that.

This is a great question. There is no way to reach internal blocks to individually upgrade them, I can't find a way to upgrade all. I know it would be a ton of resources and money, but it should be an option.
You can reach internal blocks by clipping your camera view inside your ship, once your POV is inside a certain block in your ship, it's the only one you can target.

I'd personally like to see the ability to select all of a particular type of block that's in your ship (for example all the shield gen blocks) and change them to a different tier material. Personally, I'd prefer to keep all my non-functional blocks (edge, reflective, etc) as Trinium, because it's the lightest material, and keeps the overall weight of the ship down for maneuverability and speed.
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