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[Poyzo]

If you need new PC parts, or a new PC in general, check out the sales on these days! We want you to play Wilds when it is released!

The nonstop threads about how the requirements are too high isn't going to make Capcom change the game - especially this late in development. If you want to play Monster Hunter Wilds then you will NEED to upgrade.

We on the forum warned you back in September that you should start putting money aside so you can afford the parts/PC you need. Now is the time to spend that money! Wishing you well in your search. Hope to see you in game enjoying the new monsters!

[RotGoblin]

Originally posted by Scipo0419:

Originally posted by Goblin:

Sapphire RX6700XT Pulse (£330 - we paid £280 after rebate)

Benchmarks at ~19% better than my 1080.

My CPU is the i9-9900k which benchmarks ~5% worse than your CPU.

So a 5% better CPU and a 20% better GPU was enough to, and I quote, "smash the beta"?

What absolutely trash website are you getting your benchmarks from friend?

The 6700XT benches like 45% faster than the GTX1080.

It's about 20% faster than the 1080 Ti

[Mythily]

Originally posted by Goblin:

In what world is a 4060 2% worse than a 1080?

It's like 20% faster!

No, not the 4060. The 3060 as stated in the original post.
"3060 is ~2% worse than 1080: $280"

That said, the 4060 (any variant) is not a good GPU. Avoid buying it if you can.

[GamingWithSilvertail]

Originally posted by Mythily:

Originally posted by Goblin:

In what world is a 4060 2% worse than a 1080?

It's like 20% faster!

No, not the 4060. The 3060 as stated in the original post.
"3060 is ~2% worse than 1080: $280"

Originally posted by Mythily:

Originally posted by Goblin:

In what world is a 4060 2% worse than a 1080?

It's like 20% faster!

No, not the 4060. The 3060 as stated in the original post.
"3060 is ~2% worse than 1080: $280"

It dont matter. 3060 is still faster then a 1080 and sometimes even beats a 1080 Ti in certain cases o.O

I dotn think that this person took into account gaming benchmarks on its own and not stats that come with the GPU's. And if the rtx 4060 is simulair priced to the 3060, seems like a no brainer to me.

[RotGoblin]

Originally posted by Mythily:

Originally posted by Goblin:

In what world is a 4060 2% worse than a 1080?

It's like 20% faster!

No, not the 4060. The 3060 as stated in the original post.
"3060 is ~2% worse than 1080: $280"

That said, the 4060 (any variant) is not a good GPU. Avoid buying it if you can.

Insert vague expressionless gesture here;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWYUQBsNq_U

[RotGoblin]

Originally posted by GamingWithSilvertail:

I dotn think that this person took into account gaming benchmarks on its own and not stats that come with the GPU's. And if the rtx 4060 is simulair priced to the 3060, seems like a no brainer to me.

You doublequoted G.

That aside, I think these are "generated" benchmarks probably using Firestrike results.

The GTX9XX and 10XX cards scored insanely high on Firestrike, always have, always will. Because basically they coded it to favor them (knowingly or unknowingly idk, I'll leave my tinfoil hat at home this time)

GTX 1080 on Firestrike actually slightly outscores a 3060. Because: ???

[Choconuez]

Originally posted by Goblin:

Originally posted by Choconuez:

Wilds doesn't look that much better than World, even on the highest settings

That's utter crap, Wilds is massively improved graphically over World.

Did you take a good look at the textures in the camp? Or the geometry around the map, in rock formations? Just because it has better lighting and fancy hair/clothing physics, for me, doesn't qualify as "massive improvement". But we can agree to disagree.

[Mythily]

Originally posted by Goblin:

GTX 1080 on Firestrike actually slightly outscores a 3060. Because: ???

Time spy is a better GPU benchmark anyways. But I use techpowerup. Seems to be the most reliable. There it shows that the 3060 is 14% faster than the 1080.
The 1080ti was a beast though. I don't think there will be another GPU like that in the foreseeable future.

[Mythily]

Originally posted by GamingWithSilvertail:

And if the rtx 4060 is simulair priced to the 3060, seems like a no brainer to me.

Yes and no, if it is a 3060 12Gb then the 4060 will lose in any title that uses more than 8Gb VRAM.
This is where it shows nvidia's true colors. They made two 4060Ti and the one with more VRAM comes at a 100$ premium. 4060 has only 8Gb.

Then you would ask, why even buy any 4060 card? You shouldn't. 4070 super is the way to go.
Or go team red.

[RotGoblin]

Originally posted by Choconuez:

Originally posted by Goblin:

That's utter crap, Wilds is massively improved graphically over World.

Did you take a good look at the textures in the camp? Or the geometry around the map, in rock formations? Just because it has better lighting and fancy hair/clothing physics, for me, doesn't qualify as "massive improvement". But we can agree to disagree.

I'm going to guess you were using upscaling or something because, yeah I did take a good look at them.

And largely they were very much improved, and the one or two things that were low res clearly weren't rendering at the same quality as everything else around it and was clearly a bug...

[GamingWithSilvertail]

Originally posted by Mythily:

Originally posted by GamingWithSilvertail:

And if the rtx 4060 is simulair priced to the 3060, seems like a no brainer to me.

Yes and no, if it is a 3060 12Gb then the 4060 will lose in any title that uses more than 8Gb VRAM.
This is where it shows nvidia's true colors. They made two 4060Ti and the one with more VRAM comes at a 100$ premium. 4060 has only 8Gb.

Then you would ask, why even buy any 4060 card? You shouldn't. 4070 super is the way to go.
Or go team red.

Why are you deflecting to a 4060 Super. Arnt we like.. comapring 1080 vs 3060 vs 4060?

You know there is such thing as graphic bandwitch? Why do you thjink the 3060 Ti beats 3060 in every single benchmark even thjou tis a gpu with less vram and a lower boost?

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/rtx-4060-vs-rtx-3060-12gb-gpu-faceoff

Why would you not?

https://www.pcgamer.com/nvidia-rtx-4060-vs-3060/#section-nvidia-rtx-4060-vs-arc-a750

Vram doesnt mean everything.. lol

For similair price, its litterally a no brainer to go for 4060.

[KoboldMage]

Originally posted by GamingWithSilvertail:

Originally posted by Mythily:

Yes and no, if it is a 3060 12Gb then the 4060 will lose in any title that uses more than 8Gb VRAM.
This is where it shows nvidia's true colors. They made two 4060Ti and the one with more VRAM comes at a 100$ premium. 4060 has only 8Gb.

Then you would ask, why even buy any 4060 card? You shouldn't. 4070 super is the way to go.
Or go team red.

Why are you deflecting to a 4060 Super. Arnt we like.. comapring 1080 vs 3060 vs 4060?

You know there is such thing as graphic bandwitch? Why do you thjink the 3060 Ti beats 3060 in every single benchmark even thjou tis a gpu with less vram and a lower boost?

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/rtx-4060-vs-rtx-3060-12gb-gpu-faceoff

Why would you not?

https://www.pcgamer.com/nvidia-rtx-4060-vs-3060/#section-nvidia-rtx-4060-vs-arc-a750

Vram doesnt mean everything.. lol

For similair price, its litterally a no brainer to go for 4060.

Yeah, that's all true, but not what Mythily is saying.

I believe Mythily is specifically thinking about the origami models bug that the beta had, which happened when the game used up all of your VRAM. It didn't seem like it was that hard for it to happen if you only had 8GB of VRAM, and it was even more likely if you used DLSS3 framegen, which the 4060 supports, because that also uses up more VRAM.

So, yes, the 4060 is stronger than a 3060, but that doesn't really matter if the game you're playing needs more than the 8GB of VRAM a 4060 has, which the Wilds beta seemed to at the very least.

Maybe things will change with the full release and it won't need as much VRAM, but until then, recommending people look for GPUs with more than 8GB of VRAM sounds perfectly reasonable and sensible to me.

[GamingWithSilvertail]

Originally posted by KoboldMage:

Originally posted by GamingWithSilvertail:

Why are you deflecting to a 4060 Super. Arnt we like.. comapring 1080 vs 3060 vs 4060?

You know there is such thing as graphic bandwitch? Why do you thjink the 3060 Ti beats 3060 in every single benchmark even thjou tis a gpu with less vram and a lower boost?

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/rtx-4060-vs-rtx-3060-12gb-gpu-faceoff

Why would you not?

https://www.pcgamer.com/nvidia-rtx-4060-vs-3060/#section-nvidia-rtx-4060-vs-arc-a750

Vram doesnt mean everything.. lol

For similair price, its litterally a no brainer to go for 4060.

Yeah, that's all true, but not what Mythily is saying.

I believe Mythily is specifically thinking about the origami models bug that the beta had, which happened when the game used up all of your VRAM. It didn't seem like it was that hard for it to happen if you only had 8GB of VRAM, and it was even more likely if you used DLSS3 framegen, which the 4060 supports, because that also uses up more VRAM.

So, yes, the 4060 is stronger than a 3060, but that doesn't really matter if the game you're playing needs more than the 8GB of VRAM a 4060 has, which the Wilds beta seemed to at the very least.

Maybe things will change with the full release and it won't need as much VRAM, but until then, recommending people look for GPUs with more than 8GB of VRAM sounds perfectly reasonable and sensible to me.

Right...

So use FSR 3 instead.\ Never had that problem with FSR 3 + FG on the beta o.O

Also, You shouldnt expect to play games on ultra settings on an entry card.

[RotGoblin]

I'm of the opinion that noone should buy an 8GB GPU today or going forward unless it is literally the only thing they can afford and there is absolutely no possible way they could stretch to a 10/12Gb card.

But when the 6700XT can be found so cheap in some places, and the 7700XT is coming down in price all the time.. It's basically impossible to justify buying an 8GB GPU.

[😎Astran😾]

Originally posted by Ashley:

we shouldn't have to, a game shouldn't only run on $1500 hardware.

Yes, I concur, it should demand much more - and it does: I barely can run it on 4090/i9 without the frame generation, on 1080p screen

[Schizm]

Originally posted by Ashley:

we shouldn't have to, a game shouldn't only run on $1500 hardware.

Supply chain issues, Tariffs, and covid sky rocketed prices of electronic goods and when stuff normalized companies realized they didn't have to reduce prices at all because people still bought them. Partially because crypto garbage kept sales numbers up as all the dip ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ miners bought up cards.

It was a perfect storm of ♥♥♥♥♥ that has brought us to 1500 dollar hardware being ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ mid range machines some times low end machines....

Now a certain someone wants to put 20% tariffs on all imported goods and upwards of 40%-100% on certain Chinese goods. That 1500 dollar rig is going to look like a good bargin in the coming years.