Monster Hunter Wilds

Monster Hunter Wilds

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Gee Nov 3, 2024 @ 8:51pm
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REMOVE DENUVO
Denuvo by itself isn't normally all that hard on performance if implemented well. The issue is that it's basically never implemented well. For example when MHW released it really tanked performance for some people because it was doing an insane number of checks for game integrity in the background

This chugging of performance by Denuvo in the background, combined with the poor optimization of MHWilds - is the reason why people are playing at ♥♥♥♥ framerates.

I don’t know why Capcom thinks their games need Denuvo. It's been proven that good games will sell, regardless of whether people pirate them on day one or not.
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Bee Warrior Nov 3, 2024 @ 8:55pm 
I can see Denuvo having quite a big impact on this game due to the game wanting to run at 30-60fps with DLSS. They will need a lot of optimisation work to get the game smooth without Denuvo for lower/mid cards.
Ricky Nov 3, 2024 @ 9:05pm 
If you want to play MH while you wait or can't run Wild, check out:

Monster Hunter Frontier Z, its an mmorpg that was ran in Japan, but it's now translated and has private servers, you can even host your own.

Check out World and Rise if you haven't. On Steam.

You can check out Monster hunter Generations ultimate, considered one of the best MH's as i believe its a remaster of a previous one made for the Switch with tons of extra content and dlc packed into one. You can play it on Switch or through emulation. The Emulation has high fps mods + texture packs if you want higher res textures. It can also be rendered at 4k. Can be played online.

There is also way more games you can play through emulation and all can still be played online today. such as the PSP versions they are all still really good today.

and the best thing about it, there is no bull sht with DLSS and frame gen.
You can have a clear image and save your eyesight. :mhwgood: and no denuvo scanning and making logs your pc, for only cheats ofc, totally not like every other tech company that wants your data then ends up getting hacked with it being sold on the darkweb.
Last edited by Ricky; Nov 3, 2024 @ 9:24pm
Poyzo Nov 3, 2024 @ 9:18pm 
Denuvo protects innocent players from riffraff who uses cheats/pirates/hacks/mods.
Ricky Nov 3, 2024 @ 9:19pm 
Originally posted by Poyzo:
Denuvo protects innocent players from riffraff who uses cheats/pirates/hacks/mods.
too bad it didnt work in world then, i'd have someone join my game just to 1 shot the boss. :MHRISE_Felyne:
Poyzo Nov 3, 2024 @ 9:21pm 
Originally posted by Ricky:
Originally posted by Poyzo:
Denuvo protects innocent players from riffraff who uses cheats/pirates/hacks/mods.
too bad it didnt work in world then, i'd have someone join my game just to 1 shot the boss. :MHRISE_Felyne:
That was a skilled HBG user.
ShadowDrakken Nov 3, 2024 @ 9:22pm 
Originally posted by Poyzo:
Denuvo protects innocent players from riffraff who uses cheats/pirates/hacks/mods.
In theory maybe. In practice riff raff aren't even slowed down by DRM. Companies don't use DRM to protect players, or even to protect themselves from piracy. Companies use DRM to protect themselves in court by being able to say "see, see, we're protecting our IP"
Baicoo Nov 3, 2024 @ 9:27pm 
Originally posted by Poyzo:
Denuvo protects innocent players from riffraff who uses cheats/pirates/hacks/mods.
Crazy how it dosent do that and only tanks fps
Marcus101RR Nov 3, 2024 @ 9:36pm 
There have been numerous showings of games with Denuvo and without. Some having performance issues, some not.

World was a prime example of it having Denuvo, and having problems with it. But World suffered more from the Anti-Cheat and Checksum Redundancy Checks that where being used to prevent windows Debugger and VEH Debugger from actually accessing the game. The game would outright crash (or shutdown intentionally) to prevent hacking.

It was later removed, Leaving only DRM Denuvo in the wake. The performance was good, but then came Icebourne, and things go rocky again, they removed it yet again, but left some checks in place and the modders nuked the rest. Game ran like cake.

Proof that Denuvo is always bad? No, proof that Denuvo if poorly installed and integrated can destroy a game? Yes

There have been pirated version of other games that had Denuvo removed, and then side-by-side comparison done that actually shows how much CPU was being used and how much stuttering and other effects happened. 80% of the time, the game will suffer if it has Denuvo.

Not surprise that None of the Sony Playstation titles running so well as they did (Except Horizon Zero Dawn rocky launch) and had no denuvo.

Wilds is insanely pushed to the limits of using CPU to make Endemic Life, 7 Monsters, and 32 (maybe more), small monsters all animating and processing in the background. World already pushed the limits back then. But the encryption and anticheat that was added to Wilds (on a BETA no less) shows exactly where most of their "push to the limits" efforts went.

Yes, we need anti cheat, but They could have just done EAC the same way Elden Ring did. Call it a day.
xabre2th Nov 3, 2024 @ 9:39pm 
for me, the biggest issue is, even set to lowest preset, the game can't run 60 at the camp site.
Marcus101RR Nov 3, 2024 @ 9:41pm 
Originally posted by xabre2th:
for me, the biggest issue is, even set to lowest preset, the game can't run 60 at the camp site.

Probably wasn't your hardware though, cause I was in main camp and had 50 FPS or lower and then outside 60. and I had much better hardware than the recommended said.
Originally posted by Marcus101RR:
Yes, we need anti cheat, but They could have just done EAC the same way Elden Ring did.

I disagree because the only thing Denuvo accomplishes is worse performance.
se05239 Nov 3, 2024 @ 10:02pm 
Denuvo didn't work for World and it won't work for Wilds, it's just a waste of performance for everyone looking for a smooth gameplay experience.
Ricky Nov 3, 2024 @ 10:36pm 
Originally posted by se05239:
Denuvo didn't work for World and it won't work for Wilds, it's just a waste of performance for everyone looking for a smooth gameplay experience.
i actually went to check this guys claim because i honestly thought it didnt, so i checked on the high seas and yeah it was unlocked 2018-08-09.

8 Aug, 2018 is when the game released. so 1 day is all it took. and i remember the game ran like crap at release.
Tsuru Nov 3, 2024 @ 10:38pm 
Originally posted by se05239:
Denuvo didn't work for World and it won't work for Wilds, it's just a waste of performance for everyone looking for a smooth gameplay experience.

It worked for 4 months.
Ricky Nov 3, 2024 @ 10:39pm 
Originally posted by Tsuru:
Originally posted by se05239:
Denuvo didn't work for World and it won't work for Wilds, it's just a waste of performance for everyone looking for a smooth gameplay experience.

It worked for 4 months.
the date above is not how i would write it, its literally copied from the upload of the non denuvo version.
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