Should every game now have a trans option?

[Bee Warrior]

Wheres the line? Surgery scars? Forced cinematics pushing ideology with nothing to do with source material? Has gaming changed forever?

[Dynamo Rex (mrrexplorer)]

Publicado originalmente por Bee Warrior:

Wheres the line? Surgery scars? Forced cinematics pushing ideology with nothing to do with source material? Has gaming changed forever?

You known your nickname is super trans rigth? XD JAJAJAAJAJJAJAJAJJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJA

[Josh]

No game should have a Trans option unless its a sex simulator or something freaky from Japan=) Or the main character is Trans and its a focal point. Go nuts. Its idiotic otherwise. You can already make ugly giant man women or little childlike fem boys. You can call them anything you like. If you NEED to see it in writing, YOU are the problem.

[Bansheea Krunex]

Publicado originalmente por zero:

its always funny how people like to be scared over nothing, it reminds me when people were complaining about the bg3 pronoun options having the singular 'they'.

like imagine caring about a character creation option that has literally no impact on you if you dont use it.

Honestly I been playing that game right now. BG3 is fun as well. Especially with the mods now.

Yes, ALL of that is a choice. That's the beauty of it. You can have straight relationship, or a homosexual relationship. None of it is forced too.

[Panic Fire]

Publicado originalmente por KoboldMage:

Publicado originalmente por Bee Warrior:

Dragon age, HUGE ip went too far with it and its a flop, concord, flop all sacked, studio gone. Deleted. It's not whataboutism its a fact.

The third global top selling game on Steam is a flop?

Yep it is. That game needed to sell way more copies than it did to even break even with its development and marketing budget. Flops are not decided based on just sales, but instead its income brought in vs its cost.

200,000 copies sold for instance at 70$ is 14,000,000. Minus steam's cut. This sounds like a ton of money, and it is.

Dragon Age's Budget was over 250,000,000.


So basic math says they need to sell 3.5 million copies across all platforms to break even, let alone make money on the game.

So anything less than 3.5 million copies is a terrible flop and they lost money on making it. Even 4 million copies sold would still be a flop. They are looking at wanting around 5.5-6 million copies sold to consider it a success.

[deltatchief]

Did I miss something?

[KoboldMage]

Publicado originalmente por Panic Fire:

Publicado originalmente por KoboldMage:

The third global top selling game on Steam is a flop?

Yep it is. That game needed to sell way more copies than it did to even break even with its development and marketing budget. Flops are not decided based on just sales, but instead its income brought in vs its cost.

200,000 copies sold for instance at 70$ is 14,000,000. Minus steam's cut. This sounds like a ton of money, and it is.

Dragon Age's Budget was over 250,000,000.


So basic math says they need to sell 3.5 million copies across all platforms to break even, let alone make money on the game.

So anything less than 3.5 million copies is a terrible flop and they lost money on making it. Even 4 million copies sold would still be a flop. They are looking at wanting around 5.5-6 million copies sold to consider it a success.

What is your source for the 250m budget? The best thing I've found is someone's speculation on Reddit.

[♂eat CHICKEN♂]

Publicado originalmente por Bee Warrior:

Publicado originalmente por & Knuckles:

To answer the original question, yes.

Even if its been proven that it hurts sales? Leads to games collapse? Studios collapsing and job loses? All for a tiny minority?

based off what? the "go woke go broke" meme isnt real it's quite literally the opposite, that's why companies continue to represent these different groups because it increases their sales. Do you seriously think they do it at a LOSS just because lol i guess? ill answer that for you. NO, it's all about raking in more money.

[Bee Warrior]

Publicado originalmente por ♂eat CHICKEN♂:

Publicado originalmente por Bee Warrior:

Even if its been proven that it hurts sales? Leads to games collapse? Studios collapsing and job loses? All for a tiny minority?

based off what? the "go woke go broke" meme isnt real it's quite literally the opposite, that's why companies continue to represent these different groups because it increases their sales. Do you seriously think they do it at a LOSS just because lol i guess? ill answer that for you. NO, it's all about raking in more money.

Sorry but I can't take that comment seriously. It's been quite clear just recently seen as its on subject that the trans activist running Bioware has made a huge IP a total mess and its on course to lose over a hundred million conservatively. Theres just been a woke publisher that collapsed because they didnt read the feedback and take onboard that the majority dont want woke trans agendas in games. Theres a culture war happening right now and its not going well for one side!

[zero]

Publicado originalmente por Bee Warrior:

Publicado originalmente por ♂eat CHICKEN♂:

based off what? the "go woke go broke" meme isnt real it's quite literally the opposite, that's why companies continue to represent these different groups because it increases their sales. Do you seriously think they do it at a LOSS just because lol i guess? ill answer that for you. NO, it's all about raking in more money.

Sorry but I can't take that comment seriously. It's been quite clear just recently seen as its on subject that the trans activist running Bioware has made a huge IP a total mess and its on course to lose over a hundred million conservatively. Theres just been a woke publisher that collapsed because they didnt read the feedback and take onboard that the majority dont want woke trans agendas in games. Theres a culture war happening right now and its not going well for one side!

calling it an agenda shows the obvious bias you hold, vs the reality of the situation of your complaining about customization options in games that dont affect you.

same complaints happened for bg3, game won goty.

people complaining about things they dislike isn't a culture war, its just complaints.

[♂eat CHICKEN♂]

Publicado originalmente por Bee Warrior:

Publicado originalmente por ♂eat CHICKEN♂:

based off what? the "go woke go broke" meme isnt real it's quite literally the opposite, that's why companies continue to represent these different groups because it increases their sales. Do you seriously think they do it at a LOSS just because lol i guess? ill answer that for you. NO, it's all about raking in more money.

Sorry but I can't take that comment seriously. It's been quite clear just recently seen as its on subject that the trans activist running Bioware has made a huge IP a total mess and its on course to lose over a hundred million conservatively. Theres just been a woke publisher that collapsed because they didnt read the feedback and take onboard that the majority dont want woke trans agendas in games. Theres a culture war happening right now and its not going well for one side!

The burden is on you to prove that the game flopped due to "wokeness" instead of fundamental problems with the actual game.

And the game im assuming your referring to is the new dragon age game, which has mostly positive reviews on steam right now and has record breaking player numbers for bioware

don't you think its so strange these triple A developer studios keep adding gay and trans people and "other" gender options into there games even though they know their gonna operate on a loss because of it!

its crazy, it's almost like it isn't how you say it is.

[Bee Warrior]

Publicado originalmente por ♂eat CHICKEN♂:

Publicado originalmente por Bee Warrior:

Sorry but I can't take that comment seriously. It's been quite clear just recently seen as its on subject that the trans activist running Bioware has made a huge IP a total mess and its on course to lose over a hundred million conservatively. Theres just been a woke publisher that collapsed because they didnt read the feedback and take onboard that the majority dont want woke trans agendas in games. Theres a culture war happening right now and its not going well for one side!

The burden is on you to prove that the game flopped due to "wokeness" instead of fundamental problems with the actual game.

And the game im assuming your referring to is the new dragon age game, which has mostly positive reviews on steam right now and has record breaking player numbers for bioware

don't you think its so strange these triple A developer studios keep adding gay and trans people and "other" gender options into there games even though they know their gonna operate on a loss because of it!

its crazy, it's almost like it isn't how you say it is.

Here, if you're really interested go do some research on the subject. I recommend this channel.

https://www.youtube.com/@EndymionTv/videos

I'm not going to be able to convince you and you're not going to be able to convince me so its pointless trying. I just wanted to judge other peoples reactions to the games for the "modern audience" and these trans and non binary changes happening in games.

It's a hot topic considering this has post has blown up.

I respect your opinions, but im not here to argue or force my opinions. It's just a chat.

[zero]

Publicado originalmente por Bee Warrior:

Publicado originalmente por ♂eat CHICKEN♂:

The burden is on you to prove that the game flopped due to "wokeness" instead of fundamental problems with the actual game.

And the game im assuming your referring to is the new dragon age game, which has mostly positive reviews on steam right now and has record breaking player numbers for bioware

don't you think its so strange these triple A developer studios keep adding gay and trans people and "other" gender options into there games even though they know their gonna operate on a loss because of it!

its crazy, it's almost like it isn't how you say it is.

Here, if you're really interested go do some research on the subject. I recommend this channel.

https://www.youtube.com/@EndymionTv/videos

I'm not going to be able to convince you and you're not going to be able to convince me so its pointless trying. I just wanted to judge other peoples reactions to the games for the "modern audience" and these trans and non binary changes happening in games.

It's a hot topic considering this has post has blown up.

I respect your opinions, but im not here to argue or force my opinions. It's just a chat.

if you are unwilling to change your mind when presented with an argument you are showing you did not wish to discuss in good faith, you realize, you just wanted to push your agenda lol.

[Bee Warrior]

Publicado originalmente por zero:

Publicado originalmente por Bee Warrior:

Here, if you're really interested go do some research on the subject. I recommend this channel.

https://www.youtube.com/@EndymionTv/videos

I'm not going to be able to convince you and you're not going to be able to convince me so its pointless trying. I just wanted to judge other peoples reactions to the games for the "modern audience" and these trans and non binary changes happening in games.

It's a hot topic considering this has post has blown up.

I respect your opinions, but im not here to argue or force my opinions. It's just a chat.

if you are unwilling to change your mind when presented with an argument you are showing you did not wish to discuss in good faith, you realize, you just wanted to push your agenda lol.

I didnt ask you to change my mind, I asked a bunch of questions that I was interested in hearing peoples opinions and like I said I respect your opinion but that doesn't mean I have to agree with it, I don't and what you've said certainly doesnt convince me and im sure from what you've said its visa versa so what do you want me to do? Argue with you and go round and round in circles?

It's not that big a deal to me tbh, just a chat like I said im not preparing a case study for you. I got better things to do with my time.

I'm trying to get gud at monster hunter lol

[[reaVerNL@Rumble]ᚱᛖᚨᚠᛖᚱ]

There's absolutely no point in trains in a video game. If you want to play a male, for whatever reason, you pick the male character, if you want to look at a female ass, for whatever reason, you pick the female character. A lot of men pick female characters and there are women that pick male characters. The only thing this whole trains thing achieves is giving trolls more tools to gross people out.

[Bee Warrior]

Publicado originalmente por reaVerNL@Rumbleᚱᛖᚨᚠᛖᚱ:

There's absolutely no point in trains in a video game. If you want to play a male, for whatever reason, you pick the male character, if you want to look at a female ass, for whatever reason, you pick the female character. A lot of men pick female characters and there are women that pick male characters. The only thing this whole trains thing achieves is giving trolls more tools to gross people out.

Im pissed they havent included a body morph slide set. No big boobs or juice ass slider is a big L.