Help me decide the fate of Mr. House

[Violet Princess]

So, i'm in a morality issue right here.
I talked to Yes Man and he convinced me to kill Mr House, but, after doing some quests for him I decided to just side with him.
However, that all changed when he asked me to kill everyone in the Broterhood of Steel. I like those guys. Also I'm in deep love with Veronica, (The BOS girl that got kicked out after trying to help them).
And now, I don't know if I should kill Mir house and take over to side with the NCR, or just go along with him to see what happens.

You're free to spoil stuff, but be sure to put the warning first.

[Baldur's Door]

Here is my take on this: Mr House will help the Mojave and its people more than the Brotherhood of Steel ever will. All of the factions that you can side with have that one quest where they require you to take out either Mr. House or the BoS. It really just depends on who you want to side with. Taking out the BoS will not make Veronica leave you if you do it right. I personally like to be Mr House's right hand man because that person knows what he is doing with his high intelligence and 200+ years of experience. And Karma-wise, you will lose some for killing/destroying either faction. Its your choice and as hard as it is at first, once you do destroy either one you will forget about and it will not leave you with regrets.

Edit: Also, if you are really having trouble destroying the BoS, there is a House-BoS Alliance mod. I still fail to see the Brotherhood of Steel love however, because like psychotron666 said, they are nothing more than a bunch of technology raiders whose true face is shown when you make Veronica side with the Followers (or even before that, really). But yes, I suggest that you don't turn down a major faction for a smaller one, which by the way happens to be a not so great one.

[psychotron666]

The brotherhood of steel end up turning into tech raiders in every single ending that they stay alive except for one (that requires you to side with the ncr), so they arent really doing any good for the mojave anyway.

House is the smartest known person alive, a person who was a genius before the war, created robco and was a billionaire by age of 22 after getting his inheritance robbed from him by his half brother. That same guy now has been alive almost 300 years (a technology he figured out himself), and hooked into a network of computers that can span the mojave and when upgraded will let him control any robot at any given time if he chooses.

If you follow Mr. House's lead, he will set you up as the most powerful person underneath him (which says a lot cus he still needs a person to do various things every now and then) and he will worry about all of the hard work that comes to leading while you can worry about your own life and still get the perks of being on top.

That's the way i see it anyway.

[noodle]

BoS do turn into tech raiders in most non-NCR endings true. Their main quest and Veronica's own quest shows they're mostly butt-heads unwilling to change their ways and integrate into the wasteland (outside of the 'good' NCR ending of course).

House's endings are about close to 'status quo' as you can get in this sort of game, with mentions of House's glorious plans for humanity mixed in with some unsavory dictator-like power-grabbing depending on your quest outcomes as you'd expect from his character (punishes factions who sided with NCR, Securitrons secure the streets of Vegas making it "cold, clean, efficient")

Really though do you want the coolest follower helping you punch your way to Hoover Dam or do you want to side with a 300 year old businessman and his army of robots? (the shootout at the BoS bunker is always a favourite part of my various House runs)

[Baldur's Door]

Originally posted by Frankly:

Really though do you want the coolest follower helping you punch your way to Hoover Dam or do you want to side with a 300 year old businessman and his army of robots? (the shootout at the BoS bunker is always a favourite part of my various House runs)

You can still have Veronica if you destroy the Brotherhood of Steel.

[Violet Princess]

Thank you for your answers.
But, on another note, does helping Mr House negatively affect my alliance with the NCR?
How does this work out for them?

EDIT: Hmm.... I didn't take into account Yes Man. How does he do once Mr House is dead?

[Thrull Chirurgeon]

Mr. House says 'no', NCR will tell you 'no', even the Legion will will tell you 'no' from time to time. But Yes-Man never says 'no'. If you want to do things exactly your way, Yes-Man is usualy the safe bet.

[Baldur's Door]

Originally posted by Rotten Muffin:

Thank you for your answers.
But, on another note, does helping Mr House negatively affect my alliance with the NCR?
How does this work out for them?

EDIT: Hmm.... I didn't take into account Yes Man. How does he do once Mr House is dead?

No, helping House does not affect your NCR reputation. He will want to get rid of them eventually but nothing you do on behalf of Mr House will lower your NCR reputation.

Yes Man is who you follow in order to go for the Independent ending. For the independent ending you can choose what you want to do with the smaller groups but again you can argue that that ending is not the best for everyone because of anarchy in the wasteland. Listen, none of the endings are "good" or "bad". You can ALMOST set a good ending for each side if you do most quests favoring the faction you will choose, but none of them have a happy ending for everyone.

[Violet Princess]

Originally posted by Insfor:

Originally posted by Rotten Muffin:

Thank you for your answers.
But, on another note, does helping Mr House negatively affect my alliance with the NCR?
How does this work out for them?

EDIT: Hmm.... I didn't take into account Yes Man. How does he do once Mr House is dead?

No, helping House does not affect your NCR reputation. He will want to get rid of them eventually but nothing you do on behalf of Mr House will lower your NCR reputation.

Yes Man is who you follow in order to go for the Independent ending. For the independent ending you can choose what you want to do with the smaller groups but again you can argue that that ending is not the best for everyone because of anarchy in the wasteland. Listen, none of the endings are "good" or "bad". You can ALMOST set a good ending for each side if you do most quests favoring the faction you will choose, but none of them have a happy ending for everyone.

Well thanks.
And thanks everyone for the support. I think I'm helping Mr House and covering my eyes as I'm violently slaughtering the Brotherhood while Verionica judges me silently.
But she's awesome and I can't help that.

[noodle]

Yeah you probs can wrangle a way to keep Veronica after killing the BoS but I'd never feel right doing it. Good luck OP!

[talgaby]

BrotherhoodHouseAlliance. As one word. Look for this mod on the Nexus, it puts back an intended dialogue line where you can skip killing the BoS if you are a member there and have high speech skill.

[Dufflebags]

Kill house. Show that condescending bastard what's good and run the show for yourself.

Besides, killing him is cool as Hell.