Mr. House AND NCR?

[Swordbreaker925]

Ok so i'm in a bit of a predicament here. I was going to side with Mr. House since he did kinda build and protect New Vegas in the first place. I like his character, but he wants me to kill the Brotherhood of Steel, and i like the Brotherhood but there's no way to avoid killing them if i side with House. I like the NCR but they want me to kill House, and i like House. In short, i like both House and the NCR, as well as the Brotherood of Steel. Is there a way to get House and the NCR to work together or at least form a treaty?

[Afterblowme4/20/69]

♥♥♥♥ the NCR. House all the way. :D

[Swordbreaker925]

Originally posted by Two Bears:

Originally posted by Swordbreaker:

lol idk what world you're living in, but Bethesda's Fallout games are the most popular and well-recieved of all the Fallout games.

You should spend more time on this forum. You'll see that this isn't true.

Also if you read, you'll see that Elijah got the brotherhood decimated cuz he was focused on trying to get HELIOS One up and running so he could wipe out the NCR's forces that were attacking them. However during the battle he vanished but he still had the Brotherhood's best interests in mind. He just went about it all wrong.

So you are finally admitting that Elijah was no different than the rest of the BoS; interested in hoarding technology and not helping the people of the wastes. Splendid. However, regarding his continued interests aligning with the Brotherhood of Steel.....

Hnh. Going to wipe the slate clean. Kimball, the Republic... Hardin, McNamara, my "brothers." Then I'll head back West.--Elijah, Fallout: New Vegas

BoS was on the "to kill" list just like the NCR.

Regardless, why are we even having this argument? This has nothing to do with the topic. Do you just enjoy starting internet fights?

I am correcting your misconceptions about the Brotherhood of Steel. This particular line of the discussion is about your misunderstanding of Elijah. I hope you will learn a bit more about Fallout from this discussion. Educating 08ers is something I strive to do.

I never had any misconceptions about the Brotherhood. In fact i read the official wiki for Elijah just last night, so i know what he did. I know the brotherhood doesnt often act as they're supposed to, but regardless i like what they stand for, the Mojave chapter just isnt what they're supposed to be. Either way i'm reading the offical lore and your claims dont all match up. I'm unsubbing from this thread cuz you've done nothing but derail it from its original purpose. Keep rambling but it'll fall on deaf ears

[Vita, Mortis, Careo]

Originally posted by Swordbreaker:

Originally posted by Two Bears:

You should spend more time on this forum. You'll see that this isn't true.



So you are finally admitting that Elijah was no different than the rest of the BoS; interested in hoarding technology and not helping the people of the wastes. Splendid. However, regarding his continued interests aligning with the Brotherhood of Steel.....

Hnh. Going to wipe the slate clean. Kimball, the Republic... Hardin, McNamara, my "brothers." Then I'll head back West.--Elijah, Fallout: New Vegas

BoS was on the "to kill" list just like the NCR.



I am correcting your misconceptions about the Brotherhood of Steel. This particular line of the discussion is about your misunderstanding of Elijah. I hope you will learn a bit more about Fallout from this discussion. Educating 08ers is something I strive to do.

I never had any misconceptions about the Brotherhood. In fact i read the official wiki for Elijah just last night, so i know what he did. I know the brotherhood doesnt often act as they're supposed to, but regardless i like what they stand for, the Mojave chapter just isnt what they're supposed to be. Either way i'm reading the offical lore and your claims dont all match up. I'm unsubbing from this thread cuz you've done nothing but derail it from its original purpose. Keep rambling but it'll fall on deaf ears

The BoS is acting exactly as it was supposed to. Remember, this was an organization that organized its principles after seeing what was happening at Mariposa. Science was out of control; it was completely unethical. So Roger Maxson had the scientists rounded up and shot. The BoS formed its Codex. In it, they resolved that technology in the hands of the people was dangerous and strove to keep it away from the rest of the world. They were shaped by an extreme situation and thusly formed and extremist approach. That's the BoS.

It is unfortunate that you choose not to understand this. Perhaps one day you will grow enough as a person to deal with a lack of understanding. Unfortunately it would appear that today is not that day. I hope that you will come to know peace within yourself.

[Curious Incubus]

House has the technology and know-how to properly restore/maintain civilization in the Mojave.
NCR on the other hand, has been tripping over its own land. They are incredibly overreaching and are very unreliable, even to their own soldiers.

BoS has always been a group of reclusive ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. The first ever interaction between the Brotherhood of Steel and Player is them tricking you into scavenging at the site of a nuclear blast. With that, it's hard for me to feel bad whenever I shoot one of 'em up.

[Vita, Mortis, Careo]

Originally posted by The Adversary:

House has the technology and know-how to properly restore/maintain civilization in the Mojave.
NCR on the other hand, has been tripping over its own land. They are incredibly overreaching and are very unreliable, even to their own soldiers.

BoS has always been a group of reclusive ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. The first ever interaction between the Brotherhood of Steel and Player is them tricking you into scavenging at the site of a nuclear blast. With that, it's hard for me to feel bad whenever I shoot one of 'em up.

That's another excellent point. The first interaction we ever have with the Brotherhood of Steel is when they send the Vault Dweller on a suicide mission because they just want the guy out of their hair. There is even an air of disappointment when he actually returns. These are not people who value the lives of outsiders.

[*****ed Crab]

f*ck the house, the brotherhood is a great group of people, House is just some old bastard clinging to the past. NCR is ok.

[*****ed Crab]

Originally posted by The Adversary:

House has the technology and know-how to properly restore/maintain civilization in the Mojave.
NCR on the other hand, has been tripping over its own land. They are incredibly overreaching and are very unreliable, even to their own soldiers.

BoS has always been a group of reclusive ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. The first ever interaction between the Brotherhood of Steel and Player is them tricking you into scavenging at the site of a nuclear blast. With that, it's hard for me to feel bad whenever I shoot one of 'em up.

Its better if you run into veronica along the way, I was on good terms with the brotherhood from the get go.

[Curious Incubus]

Originally posted by The Rogue Gamer:

Its better if you run into veronica along the way, I was on good terms with the brotherhood from the get go.

That doesn't stop them from being the way they are. For Veronica, it either ends with her rejoining her xenophobic family and living the rest of her days unable to pursue her goals, or abandoning them in favor of assisting the Followers of the Apocalypse, only for the BoS to wipe out a Followers outpost.

They aren't planning on changing their ways, especially not before the Second Battle of Hoover Dam, therefore House is intent on taking them out of the picture, for the garunteed security of New Vegas and ultimately benefitting the people of the Mojave.

[twinsenstwinsens]

http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/37729/?

Mr. House Brotherhood Alliance mod

[talgaby]

Originally posted by twinsenstwinsens:

http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/37729/?
Mr. House Brotherhood Alliance mod

This. SInce it's voiced, it seems like a cut line from the original, so it's not that you are warping the game to suit your needs, just restoring a cut path.

[Straybow]

Originally posted by The Adversary:

House has the technology and know-how to properly restore/maintain civilization in the Mojave.
NCR on the other hand, has been tripping over its own land. They are incredibly overreaching and are very unreliable, even to their own soldiers.

BoS has always been a group of reclusive ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. The first ever interaction between the Brotherhood of Steel and Player is them tricking you into scavenging at the site of a nuclear blast. With that, it's hard for me to feel bad whenever I shoot one of 'em up.

Sadly I agree

Originally posted by talgaby:

Originally posted by twinsenstwinsens:

http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/37729/?
Mr. House Brotherhood Alliance mod

This. SInce it's voiced, it seems like a cut line from the original, so it's not that you are warping the game to suit your needs, just restoring a cut path.

If you don’t mind mods, this is the best solution. Personally I prefer having to make a choice between the two though.

[Pyrosauria]

You know I was kinda pissed that the BOS didn't get their own ending in New Vegas

[talgaby]

As in a major faction ending? They were never a major faction until Bethesda made them the White Knights of Mandatory Goody-Goodness Against the Black Knights of Moustache-Twirling Evil.

[Fidller™]

Originally posted by talgaby:

As in a major faction ending? They were never a major faction until Bethesda made them the White Knights of Mandatory Goody-Goodness Against the Black Knights of Moustache-Twirling Evil.

I've never seen a BoS person with a moustache.....Lyons doesn't count he has a beard

[Vassago Rain]

Originally posted by Pyroskies:

You know I was kinda pissed that the BOS didn't get their own ending in New Vegas

Your first and only other fallout game was fallout 3, right?

Actual brotherhood of steel aren't good guys. They're not important, and a super small faction. They don't really accept members, don't recruit, and if you have something they want, they'll just rob you.