Ratslayer or That Gun?

[rbindy]

So I'm running my max crit chance build and when I was deciding what to use for 5.56 ammo I came across a problem, that being that both the Ratslayer and That Gun are good for crit builds and use 5.56. So which should I use?

[MannsOverMeta]

Ratslayer is easier to maintain and has both silencer and scope. Combined with the x5 crit chance you can have guaranted crits, or at least close to that. Very versitile gun, although the rate of fire and clip size/reload may not be favorable.
That Gun will not have guaranted crits unless your crit stat is super high, but it's still a good chance. It's also a better weapon when not regarding crits.
Both are good. Just use the one that you prefer most. Or use both. Nothing's stoping you from using both.

[Vassago Rain]

One is for range, the other is for up close, so use both.

[Goth Girl™]

Definetly both. Ratslayer is a great long range sniping option but lacks in terms of fire rate for close quarters combat. That gun can help with that.

[rbindy]

Originally posted by MannsOverMeta (WEMP):

Ratslayer is easier to maintain and has both silencer and scope. Combined with the x5 crit chance you can have guaranted crits, or at least close to that. Very versitile gun, although the rate of fire and clip size/reload may not be favorable.
That Gun will not have guaranted crits unless your crit stat is super high, but it's still a good chance. It's also a better weapon when not regarding crits.
Both are good. Just use the one that you prefer most. Or use both. Nothing's stoping you from using both.

So more or less use Ratslayer while I'm closing the distance but once I'm close use That Gun? Makes enough sense.

[talgaby]

If you wield the Ratslayer decent enough, they will never get that close.
It is a viable close-range weapon too, but pistols do tend to work a bit better in close ranges in the game, thankfully.
Although I would recommend keeping an M1911 as a sidearm instead, because its .45 ammo at least would not eat the rifle's ammo stock. One single ammo for a character is not that crucial in this game as it was in Fallout Tactics.

[rbindy]

Originally posted by talgaby:

If you wield the Ratslayer decent enough, they will never get that close.
It is a viable close-range weapon too, but pistols do tend to work a bit better in close ranges in the game, thankfully.
Although I would recommend keeping an M1911 as a sidearm instead, because its .45 ammo at least would not eat the rifle's ammo stock. One single ammo for a character is not that crucial in this game as it was in Fallout Tactics.

I try to have as many guns as I can that use as many different ammo types, thats why I was questioning whether to use That gun or the Ratslayer because they both use 5.56 and I try to keep it to one gun per ammo type.

[mrmike_49]

there is a mod to increase vendors supply of ammo by 10X. No other change AFAIK

[just.nuke.em]

Originally posted by Srbindy:

Originally posted by talgaby:

If you wield the Ratslayer decent enough, they will never get that close.
It is a viable close-range weapon too, but pistols do tend to work a bit better in close ranges in the game, thankfully.
Although I would recommend keeping an M1911 as a sidearm instead, because its .45 ammo at least would not eat the rifle's ammo stock. One single ammo for a character is not that crucial in this game as it was in Fallout Tactics.

I try to have as many guns as I can that use as many different ammo types, thats why I was questioning whether to use That gun or the Ratslayer because they both use 5.56 and I try to keep it to one gun per ammo type.

If you need 5.56, just kill a bunch of NPC dudes with the Ratslayer and take their stuff. No karma or reputation penalty if done in sneak. Then use both guns.

[rbindy]

Originally posted by just.nuke.em:

Originally posted by Srbindy:

I try to have as many guns as I can that use as many different ammo types, thats why I was questioning whether to use That gun or the Ratslayer because they both use 5.56 and I try to keep it to one gun per ammo type.

If you need 5.56, just kill a bunch of NPC dudes with the Ratslayer and take their stuff. No karma or reputation penalty if done in sneak. Then use both guns.

Actually you do get Karma penalty from sneak kills, but thats fine because I play an evil Courier.

[Akasaki]

Rat Slayer ! I prefer the rifle to shot from a far and silence is the best asset. That Gun is good as a close range weapon, run&gun style, not me. But when i do, Joshua's gun will play the role.

[just.nuke.em]

Originally posted by Srbindy:

Actually you do get Karma penalty from sneak kills, but thats fine because I play an evil Courier.

Actually, you don't. I just checked.

[rbindy]

Originally posted by just.nuke.em:

Originally posted by Srbindy:

Actually you do get Karma penalty from sneak kills, but thats fine because I play an evil Courier.

Actually, you don't. I just checked.

You don't? I always thought you did since Karma is less "Someone saw you do this" and more "The world knows you did it".

[just.nuke.em]

Originally posted by Srbindy:

Originally posted by just.nuke.em:

Actually, you don't. I just checked.

You don't? I always thought you did since Karma is less "Someone saw you do this" and more "The world knows you did it".

It's weird. You can't pop BoS guys and get away with it (everone in the bunker instantly knows) but most everything and everyone else no one cares if you are hidden when you pull the trigger with a silenced weapon. NCR troopers beeing the most prolific. Lots of 5.56 for a LMG or Bozar.