Best way to get All DLC

[The Truth]

What is the best way to get all the DLC I have had Fallout New Vegas since 2011. And although it doesn't run great I would like to get all the DLC for it. I tried getting the Ultimate package but it won't discount the x2 copy of Fallout NV. Steam is making me pay for the base game again which I want to avoid.

[talgaby]

Impossible to avoid. Buy the Ultimate version at any store you fancy and sells it.

[Hat8]

Originally posted by Matt Hsv:

What is the best way to get all the DLC I have had Fallout New Vegas since 2011. And although it doesn't run great I would like to get all the DLC for it. I tried getting the Ultimate package but it won't discount the x2 copy of Fallout NV. Steam is making me pay for the base game again which I want to avoid.

Their business model punishes you if you don't buy the ultimate edition. If you don't buy the ultimate edition you basically have to buy all the DLC individually.

[Valden21]

Originally posted by 786543:

Originally posted by Matt Hsv:

What is the best way to get all the DLC I have had Fallout New Vegas since 2011. And although it doesn't run great I would like to get all the DLC for it. I tried getting the Ultimate package but it won't discount the x2 copy of Fallout NV. Steam is making me pay for the base game again which I want to avoid.

Their business model punishes you if you don't buy the ultimate edition. If you don't buy the ultimate edition you basically have to buy all the DLC individually.

That's not how it works. If you buy the base game on Steam, and then buy the Ultimate Edition on Steam at a later date, you won't end up with two copies of the same game. Steam doesn't do that. Instead, what happens is that all the DLC will be added on to your first game. Plus, it's also CHEAPER to just buy the Ultimate Edition instead of buying the base game and all DLC's on their own. You're not being punished, you're actually SAVING money if you buy the Ultimate Edition.

[Fumo Bnnuy n Frends]

i'd say try 3rd party key sites like humble bundle

i keep seeing people, especially on reviews, that they got a game dirt cheap compared to steam locale sellings.

[talgaby]

Originally posted by Valden21:

If you buy the base game on Steam, and then buy the Ultimate Edition on Steam at a later date, you won't end up with two copies of the same game. Steam doesn't do that.

Actually, you do. You do get two individual licenses.
Thing is, you buy licenses, and this is hat people forget. You own nothing but a lease to play the game as long as the publisher allows it. If you buy it again, you get another lease to play the same game, so it looks like as if you got nothing new. Still, you *do* have two leases, you can even decide to completely remove the first lease (the base game) and retain your right to play the full edition regardless with the second one.

[The Truth]

Originally posted by talgaby:

Actually, you do. You do get two individual licenses.

Actually you don't here is what I get when I put Fallout New Vegas Ultimate Edition into my cart in steam.

Fallout New Vegas Ultimate
See note below1
A$ 14.97 Estimated total2

1
Fallout New Vegas Ultimate: According to our records, you already own one or more of the items included in this package on Steam.
If purchasing for yourself, you will not receive an extra copy of:
Fallout: New Vegas
2
All prices include VAT where applicable

Is this a purchase for yourself or is it a gift? Select one to continue to checkout

So therefore Steam are disregarding this second licence of the original game you speak of and throwing it away. Steam is not allowing you the second Fallout New Vegas game licence to give to a friend or anything they are just not giving you the game you just paid for again. Which is pretty poor imo.

[talgaby]

*sigh* This is why we have so many misunderstandings, people do not understand how Steam works.
Here, this is my license list, or at least the part with New Vegas. As you can see, I very much hold two of those: https://i.imgur.com/2IBMAJm.png

[The Truth]

Originally posted by talgaby:

*Here, this is my license list, or at least the part with New Vegas. As you can see, I very much hold two of those

That's all well and good but you can't do anything with the second copy of Fallout NV. You can't give the licence key to a friend to use you can't sit it on a shelf it is just sitting there useless in your steam account there is no point.

As for if you had purchased Fallout NV Ultimate Edition in a physical shop you would have the second Fallout NV game key to do whatever you like with give it to a friend look at it put it on a shelf whatever you wanted.

[talgaby]

Yes, but that is the point: the license is not ownership of anything, there is nothing to transfer regardless. This is not how digital distribution works. The very few exceptions that give a second copy always use a different system, Steam gift inventories and they were coded separately.

[The Truth]

Originally posted by talgaby:

This is not how digital distribution works. The very few exceptions that give a second copy always use a different system, Steam gift inventories and they were coded separately.

Ok so I don't care about owning the game twice i'm not looking to give the game away. I just want the game taken off the bundle because I already own it.

I have come to the conclusion about this tonight and that it is Bethesda/Steam that is at fault. And here is my reasoning. Ok so if it is good enough for a major game publisher like 2k with Borderlands 2 The Handsome Collection to allow steam bundles to remove games/dlc you already own from the bundles and apply discounts accordingly so you aren't essentially paying for the same game/dlc twice. Then it should be good enough for Bethesda/Steam to allow the same deal right?

On the other side of the scale you have the smaller developers with their own games and they are allowing Bundle deals with games you already own on steam to be discounted that are sometimes even at a better discount than just buying the original game on sale with the games that have been discounted and not re-purchased.

IMO steam should state to all publishers that all Bundles do not include games/dlc the user already owns (unless gifting) for all games on Steam and discount bundles accordingly. This should have been done at the start of digital distribution on steam otherwise we are better off buying physical copies from stores. So we in fact get that second copy of said game.

Meanwhile Bethesda can keep FONV Ultimate I will not be buying it until they fix the bundle as it appears here on steam to reflect what the user already owns and discounts accordingly like every other publisher allows and does with bundles here on Steam. /endrant

[Washell]

Now:
Cost of current bundle for a NV owner: $10

"Fixed":
Cost of tailored bundle: $15
Cost of tailored bundle for a NV owner: $10

Just buy the damn bundle. Bethesda isn't going to leave money on the table anyway.

[talgaby]

Then I suggest writing to Zenimax so they convert the Ultimate Edition on Steam to a Steam bundle instead of keeping it as the old Steam package format.
Good luck with that, they deliberately try to keep the old format on as many games as possible, because this forces most people to buy them twice.