Best Ending for the Future of the Mojave

[HeroOfKvatch]

What ending in the base game do you guys think would be the best for Vegas and the Mojave?

I personally think independent is the way to go.

NCR is obviously spread too thin and pretty corrupt, although they mean well.

Caesar's philosophy is genius but when talking to him and Lanius they seem to want to conquer the entire NCR, which I think is an impossibility as the farther they go into NCR territory the more powerful the resistance will be. This will spread the Legion thin.

House seems to only care about money and although he'd bring a lot of security to the wasteland, he seems to work for his interests and I personally don't like being an errand boy.

If you go with Yes Man and keep the Boomers, destroy the Khans and BoS, fully upgrade the securitrons and get all the casinos in your pocket then you'll have a powerful army, increased trade, less chem trafficking (khans) and not many people willing to resist you. Then you can dispatch your securitrons all over and extinguish any remaining threats and establish trade routes and ♥♥♥♥.

The only possible problem is Yes Man backstabbing you because of what he says at the end of the independent battle of Hoover Dam.

[Morrandir]

NCR as the only thing resembling a pre-war government.

No other model is sustainable in the long term.

[psychotron666]

House hands down. That guy has plans he's been making for more than 200 years. He was a genius in pre war when civilization was at its height, was a billionaire in his 20s, created robco , and figures he'd be colonizing mars in less than 100 years after the events of new Vegas.

[Morrandir]

Originally posted by psychotron666:

House hands down. That guy has plans he's been making for more than 200 years. He was a genius in pre war when civilization was at its height, was a billionaire in his 20s, created robco , and figures he'd be colonizing mars in less than 100 years after the events of new Vegas.

He had the benefits of an advanced civilised society and nation at his disposal. Tourism revenues and some tamed raiders and tribals just isn't going to cut it. How is he going to do any of the things he says in a city state in the middle of the desert without the capital and human resources?

[JoshKillin]

I almost always do the independent New Vegas playthrough, which I think is the best because my Courier was tough but fair.

One thing I always think about, though, is how Yes Man says he is going away to become "more assertive". After the game ends, maybe Yes Man eventually comes back, and dethrones Courier 6, and rules New Vegas with an iron fist. Maybe Courier 6 shuts down Yes Man, as he is mostly no longer needed, and the Courier knows Yes Man's newfound "assertion" could be a threat to his independent state. I read somewhere that Yes Man's upgrade could have been Mr. House "coming back", and if this is the case, the Yes Man ending and Mr. House ending could potentially turn out very similar.

[Unexpected]

I sympathize with the ncr, but I largely prefer independent, the ncr should stay in california

[Michael M]

There are no good futures, because war never changes.

[Vassago Rain]

There's no 'best' option.

NCR will make Vegas yet another NCR state, with all the entails.
House wishes to isolate and fortify the area, while devoting casino profits and land to research and industry.
Caesar wants to capture Vegas as part of his Hoover dam campaign so he can have a crown jewel of his own, and is geared up and ready to crush the NCR defenders (as well as any bystanders) that are standing in his way.
Independent doesn't lead to bloodless, super peaceful conclusion, either. The old saying 'if you want an omelette, you gotta break some eggs' comes to mind.

[Haxel Haze]

Originally posted by HeroOfKvatch:

destroy the Khans

THE KHANS ARE GOOD ALLIES, REEEEEEEEEEEE
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But in all seriousness, the Khans supply a majority of drugs to all over the Mojave. Just help Jack and Diane, and make their recipes cleaner and teach them medicine, so that they aren't just another Dixon. Then cripple their trade by killing every fiend in Vault 3. No Motor Runner, no more drugs for the fiends. Only drugs for the area around the Crimson Caravan and the Strip. Where there's a want, there's a market. Let them be, Live and let live. Keep them away from Caesar's honeyed words, and have them ally with you and Yes Man. Chems are groovy, man, you just gotta like, go with the flow, dude. As for the BoS, save Veronica, the rest can suck a fat one for all I care.

[talgaby]

House. He built one of the world's largest companies out of nothing once, he can do it again.
Independent is just anarchy, and being a small state among nothing but enemies. Not to mention that the Courier doesn't really show signs on knowing how to lead an entire nation. Realistically, if any of the casino families survived, they'd take the real control soon; and if not, then the city will just devour itself until only a few stragglers remain among the thousands of cop robots.

[Insano-Man]

Originally posted by talgaby:

Not to mention that the Courier doesn't really show signs on knowing how to lead an entire nation.

Can we please stop making assumptions on a blank player template? Especially one that could potentially have 10 CHR, 10 LCK, 10 INT, 100 Barter, and 100 Speech all at once.

[talgaby]

Knowing how to talk yourself out of a gunfight and how to haggle for better prices is not the same as dealing with the infrastructure of a city, it social problems, balancing its budget, and making it run in general. Not even the Yes Man AI can just do everything while its master smokes cigars in the penthouse. Even the world's most inept despots had to rely on cabinets to make things work or faced total collapse.

[Insano-Man]

You're still assuming something of someone whose only history is in the Divide and a few vague details regarding unrelated tidbits. The courier, for all intents and purposes, may as well not exist until someone makes them. There's really no telling if they'd just kill everyone who disagrees or form the most effective government since the Great War.

[MTV]

The Courier doesn't get to control Vegas anyway. So why even argue about how well he would rule?

House is the best option. For reasons others already stated in the thread.

[ASRIEL]

Post War Merica [NCR]

Corrupt, yes, just like our own modern US government, but ultimately it is the most sustainable for growth. The problem is going to be what happens when the West meets the East. Whole "genocide against the Brotherhood" thing. Would NCR, even at full strength, be able to stop [FO4 Spoilers ahead] Maxin and the giant killer robot at his command, along with an army and a massive airship with plenty of Vertibirds?

[Amber Baal]

Originally posted by TopDatTopHat:

Originally posted by HeroOfKvatch:

destroy the Khans

THE KHANS ARE GOOD ALLIES, REEEEEEEEEEEE
--------------
But in all seriousness, the Khans supply a majority of drugs to all over the Mojave. Just help Jack and Diane, and make their recipes cleaner and teach them medicine, so that they aren't just another Dixon. Then cripple their trade by killing every fiend in Vault 3. No Motor Runner, no more drugs for the fiends. Only drugs for the area around the Crimson Caravan and the Strip. Where there's a want, there's a market. Let them be, Live and let live. Keep them away from Caesar's honeyed words, and have them ally with you and Yes Man. Chems are groovy, man, you just gotta like, go with the flow, dude. As for the BoS, save Veronica, the rest can suck a fat one for all I care.

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE