HELP

It was replaced by the shield.

Originally posted by Merlkir:

It was replaced by the shield.

But why? The sword was the only 1/2H sword that was actually unique and really useful.

WIll something similar ever be implemented in-game again?

What did you like about it? Just that it was a 1/2h rewrd sword?

Originally posted by Merlkir:

What did you like about it? Just that it was a 1/2h rewrd sword?

At more advanced levels it was super useful for me. Really fast and in peril it could be coupled with a shield. Plus, the damage was quite solid too, one shotting Orcs and Uruks and taking a maximum of 4-5 shots against trolls.

The design was also really nice. Seemed exactly like something Arathorn would bear. Really comfy sword, took me forever to level relations with Imladris to get it too. Darn it all to heck, I miss it already.

Sorry about that. We didn't really like the sword.

Originally posted by InVain:

Sorry about that. We didn't really like the sword.

All me hopes to see it again took a blow. Perhaps something similar could be implemented in the future? Give it to me straight and hard my man, can I get my hopes up that I'll see a similar item in game in the future?

There was a lot of sword rewards and like one shield. The model is based on the movies and wasn't very high quality. That's why it went.

If there is a demand for a 1/2h sword reward, we might look at placing it somewhere else.

Originally posted by Merlkir:

There was a lot of sword rewards and like one shield. The model is based on the movies and wasn't very high quality. That's why it went.

If there is a demand for a 1/2h sword reward, we might look at placing it somewhere else.

That makes sense, regarding the shield. Being Tuor's makes it better, Sons of Hurin and more recently Fall of Gondolin are some of my favorite Tolkien works. It's a cool addition.

I think there's other people who miss it, although my evidence for this is mostly anecdotal from online forums and friends that play it.
Could I make the suggestion that if something similar does make a return, it's a design based on the realistic swords such as Anduril, Glamdring and the sword of the Witch King? Not necessarily based ON them per se, but its practical design. Arathorn's sword brought the same aura of "realism" and practicality as the ones mentioned and I think it grounds the Fantasy element more in a way.

Originally posted by Merlkir:

There was a lot of sword rewards and like one shield. The model is based on the movies and wasn't very high quality. That's why it went.

If there is a demand for a 1/2h sword reward, we might look at placing it somewhere else.

Arathorn's sword was by far the best weapon in the game. By far.

This is not necessarily a good thing.

Why was it so good? Let me count the ways:

1) Awesome against armor. It had about 40 piercing damage on a swing when used two handed.
2) Ludicrous length for something that can be used with a shield. 1.25m if I recall correctly.
3) Speed so high that it could be used one-handed and still be blazing fast.

It was simply overpowered. I often get asked about bаsтагd swords in Warband, and Arathorn's used to be one of my examples of bаsтагd sword worth using, together with Holy Avenger from Phantasy and Skyfall from Perisno. For the two same main reasons, by the way. Fast and long.

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By the way, I did not use it. I did not like the model. When I played a good character, I was trying to have him look lore appropriate... With my evil ones, the best helmet looked so far out, I made the rest of my gear look outlandish as well.

@Radiskull Goof If you want another one-handed sword with great damage, there are still a few options left such as the Sword of Westernesse (Gondor) or the Sword of Eorl (Rohan), at least if my years-old list isn't completely outdated yet. They're not as good of course, most notably being quite a bit shorter but damage and speed are still there.

Originally posted by Tuidjy:

Originally posted by Merlkir:

There was a lot of sword rewards and like one shield. The model is based on the movies and wasn't very high quality. That's why it went.

If there is a demand for a 1/2h sword reward, we might look at placing it somewhere else.

Arathorn's sword was by far the best weapon in the game. By far.

This is not necessarily a good thing.

Why was it so good? Let me count the ways:

1) Awesome against armor. It had about 40 piercing damage on a swing when used two handed.
2) Ludicrous length for something that can be used with a shield. 1.25m if I recall correctly.
3) Speed so high that it could be used one-handed and still be blazing fast.

It was simply overpowered. I often get asked about bаsтагd swords in Warband, and Arathorn's used to be one of my examples of bаsтагd sword worth using, together with Holy Avenger from Phantasy and Skyfall from Perisno. For the two same main reasons, by the way. Fast and long.

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By the way, I did not use it. I did not like the model. When I played a good character, I was trying to have him look lore appropriate... With my evil ones, the best helmet looked so far out, I made the rest of my gear look outlandish as well.

I wouldn't consider it overpowered. I consider it properly powered consider how much grind there needs to in order to attain it. I think that by the time you get it, you're in the final stages of war and Isengard and Mordor have deployed their emergency armies, so it's perfect for it considering that now your character is a veteran and has leveled up appropriately.

Swords like this or like the Rune weapons from PoP, that are difficult to attain and can only be reached through grinding at later levels, are a great reward for someone's time.

That's why I miss it. Has the same reach as the Nazgul sword IIRC, but it's not as fast. So I'd deem it appropriate. Can't even be compared to the swords like the Serpent one (which I don't think I ever got in any playthrough) or like the Greenwood Relic Sword (as OP as the Nazgul sword). Were it not for the low speed, the Sword of Eorl would be the best one in game.

I haven't properly touched the game yet since this was implemented because every time I go back I have no idea what to use.

Originally posted by Wendek:

@Radiskull Goof If you want another one-handed sword with great damage, there are still a few options left such as the Sword of Westernesse (Gondor) or the Sword of Eorl (Rohan), at least if my years-old list isn't completely outdated yet. They're not as good of course, most notably being quite a bit shorter but damage and speed are still there.

They're still in game indeed! Though the Sword of the Westernesse is short, the Sword of Eorl still has great reach.

Those are solid options, my only issue with them is that when the shield breaks, I'm left with a slower sword. Great damage however. Carrying a bow in this mod complicates things.

Christ, I love this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ mod so much. Easily the best one ever made, I'm willing to fight whoever disagrees.

Going by the list that can be found on Steam, which was current when I last played:

Originally posted by Wendek:

there are still a few options left such as the Sword of Westernesse (Gondor)

Much shorter, by 43cm (a foot and a half), in the save I have.

or the Sword of Eorl (Rohan)

Much shorter, by 28cm (nearly a foot), according to the guide.

Originally posted by Radiskull Goof:

Has the same reach as the Nazgul sword IIRC, but it's not as fast.

This one is strictly two handed. The shield makes a huge difference, especially when dueling enemy lords, or trying to close on armor piercing archers from Isenguard or Mirkwood.

the Serpent one

Once again, two-handed only.

the Greenwood Relic Sword

Once again, two-handed only.

Were it not for the low speed, the Sword of Eorl would be the best one in game.

It's 28cm, or almost a full foot shorter, as well. That's huge is melee.

As I said before, Arathorn's sword could be used with a shield, had the reach of a two-hander, a respectable speed even one-handed, and armor piercing damage that is more than enough to kill anything but a troll with one hit. I have killed the old style trolls with one hit, by the way, but it won't do for the new ones.

With it gone, balance is better.

The next best sword that can be used with a shield is the Masterwork Galadhrim Sword, which has the speed, is 17cm shorter, and has cutting damage. The damage is the least important, because by the time he won, my elven character was getting 260% damage anyway.

As for the Evil side, at the time I played, they had absolutely NO good one handed rewards. My characters all ended the War with bog standard balanced corsair sabers (I do not remember what the actual name was, but I think it referenced the kraken) Considering how deadly good archers can be, it was a damn shame not to have one handed rewards.

By the way, here[i.imgur.com] is a screenshot of what Arathorn's sword can achieve, on a map where enemies can't get good line of sight to shoot, and where an elf can jump from ledge to ledge to shake pursuit. By the way, the shield is only pristeen because the chest fixes it.

Notice how long the sword is.

The Greenwood sword will likely be changed to 1/2h one. (definitely will not be 2h, that's a mistake)