I dont think its even possible tho. I mean in normal ways

You need to edit the weapon via modding to enable its attacks. Keep in mind that the AI trolls' attacks are scripted, so you won't cause aoe damage or the throwback effect.

Also, obviously, we do not grant any support for this.

So you can never call the Ents into war? That's a shame. Any plans to add that later?

Originally posted by Zulgaines:

So you can never call the Ents into war? That's a shame. Any plans to add that later?

I have not used Ents in battle, but I tried to use trolls, and could not make them work, or at least make them work well enough to justify their cost.

So you are probably not losing much by not being able to field Ents.

Originally posted by Tuidjy:

Originally posted by Zulgaines:

So you can never call the Ents into war? That's a shame. Any plans to add that later?

I have not used Ents in battle, but I tried to use trolls, and could not make them work, or at least make them work well enough to justify their cost.

So you are probably not losing much by not being able to field Ents.

A small group of archers destroys trolls, but a small group of trolls in a big battle destroyes men.

Stop enganging them in melee... pls... pls stop... allied AI pls

Originally posted by Zulgaines:

Originally posted by Tuidjy:

I have not used Ents in battle, but I tried to use trolls, and could not make them work, or at least make them work well enough to justify their cost.

So you are probably not losing much by not being able to field Ents.

A small group of archers destroys trolls, but a small group of trolls in a big battle destroyes men.

Stop enganging them in melee... pls... pls stop... allied AI pls

My Free People characters usually end up being able to take out trolls with two headshots, sometimes with a single one. You can see them coming from a long way off, and there is no reason to ever let them reach melee range.

As for using trolls against the enemy, if they draw fire, they are dead. If they do not draw fire, it's usually because the enemy is already engaged, so their AoE attacks end up hurting friendlies as well as enemies. And considering how much they cost, they are not worth it.

I would much rather field ten Numenorans than one troll, and the Numenorans are significantly cheaper, and one hell of a lot easier to field. And it scales even worse. Ten trolls are an unmanageable mess, while 100 Humenoran heavy horse are murder on the hoof.

The more troops on the field the more damage I've seen them do. My battle limit is modded to a thousand though. I should probably turn it back down but watching well modeled LOTR armies clash is just so beautiful.

I played at battlesize 600, with a party that could exceed 200 even early on, which is not much of an achievement for a Mordor commander who knows what he's doing.

I could not find an use for the trolls. You can only get one every few weeks, they cost an insane amount in wages, and it is hard to arrange the battle so that they can safely contribute.

Maybe you can get them to work, and even to be cost effective. But I doubt you can get them to be more useful than as many Numenorans as the trolls' wages can maintain.

Originally posted by Tuidjy:

I played at battlesize 600, with a party that could exceed 200 even early on, which is not much of an achievement for a Mordor commander who knows what he's doing.

I could not find an use for the trolls. You can only get one every few weeks, they cost an insane amount in wages, and it is hard to arrange the battle so that they can safely contribute.

Maybe you can get them to work, and even to be cost effective. But I doubt you can get them to be more useful than as many Numenorans as the trolls' wages can maintain.

Ok but I you keep talking about me using trolls, or the player using trolls and that was never what I was saying.

I'm talking about AI armies of Mordor with small stacks of trolls in them. Not the value ratio they provide the player.