Hi there,

Aside from the tips others have given, here are a few more:

• If you are having trouble with the defend village quest cause you either are low level or you don't have enough troops to win, I suggest you do Guildmaster quests, like kill troublesome orcs.
  
• You can also just keep attacking tribal orcs til you get your men leveled up.
  
• It takes a few hours - 1 day for barracks to stock up on new recruits. Perhaps kill a few tribal orcs, wait a day, then hire some more men?
  
• You can go to the Warband options menu and reduce combat damage to yourself and your allies.
  
• In the next steam build, we will be reducing the amount of parties on the map, leading to mordor not becoming too powerful right at the beginning. Doesn't mean they will become weak though, they'll just be less of a steamroller.

Let me know if any of the above help.

ok thanks i was just frusturated because im trying to rank up with the faction and some guild master quests last a while and give me around 1 rank point ill try your tips

Originally posted by Kham:

Hi there,

• In the next steam build, we will be reducing the amount of parties on the map, leading to mordor not becoming too powerful right at the beginning. Doesn't mean they will become weak though, they'll just be less of a steamroller.

Let me know if any of the above help.

Mordor should be powerfull, I've found it very chellenging enemy but not unstoppable.
My only problem is that while I started new game as Variag I've found it too easy to play. Mordor and the allies are too powerfull to play but not too powerfull when you play against them (game being chellenging is ok).

ps.

The best M&B mod ever.

playing default is almost impossible, you gotta change the war to start at 20 and consider raising res and other rates too.

im on 9 playthroughs now. there is no excuse for the glaring issues and unsorted bugs or even worse, the working as intended ♥♥♥♥ block issues :/

Originally posted by Viral:

playing default is almost impossible, you gotta change the war to start at 20 and consider raising res and other rates too.

im on 9 playthroughs now. there is no excuse for the glaring issues and unsorted bugs or even worse, the working as intended ♥♥♥♥ block issues :/

This is good advice.

I've found doubling the influence and rank increases is also useful. You really cannot stop Mordor with the war starting as early as level 8. They just seem to obliterate Gondor.

I also play with cheats enabled, but the only one I use is the reveal map function. It's really useful for planning where to send your troops and seeing how big which armies are and where you should be helping out.

Originally posted by Baconstrips:

Ive wrote many disscussions and only 2 got answered its been a day hopefully someone can help me here the start of this mod is just 2 quest that are scout and execute the law on some guy then pass notes until you feel like suicide then when im low level and have bad and under 10 men this defend village quest is the only one lords are asking execpt for a pass note across the map here and there people have said to just use villagers as meat sheilds on the defence but the wargs/cavalry bust through like its nothing killing everyone then the war starts... pretty much a few minutes in westfold is burned and gondor loses a castle or 2 or 3 than they get destroyed than rohan after by that time ill have good men and good rank but all the enemy do are build advance camps and the game never ends ive had this mod for 2 years and not once have i been able to beat it except on evil side im tempted to just giving and go on other mods or native unless someone can say what a stupid idiot ive been and show me how to do it thanks in advance

The Westfold or West emnet always fall, it's sort of expected really. To lose at least 1 Rohan settlement, imo it's not too big of a problem, Rohan only need a little help on account of only facing 2 enemies at once (lol).

It's Gondor who really need help, they always lose West Osgiliath and Cair Andros, very little the player can do to stop that, but it's when the orcs move on lossarnarch and the other cities that Gondors defeat is inevitable. Factor in the near endless numbers of their war parties and you begin to realise it's suicide starting the war at level 8.

And I have found the defend village quest to be much harder when in Gondor, Rohan defend village quests are doable but still pretty tough going imo.

I have been able to win the war when I first played the mod 6 months ago but something changed how Gondor behave or something now and it's an endless stream of battles to even slow Gondors defeat now.
Might be tied into how some of their commanders will be killed off.

Incidentally I believe the key is starting in the North, beating the far northern factions quickly then moving south asap.
With the extra forces freed up there Rohan gets more strength in the Centre conflicts, which leaves you the player free to go and try to save Gondor.

Although this does take time, and i'm not sure this strategy even works now considering how rapidly Gondor fall.
Might be worth trying though.

Something else worth trying is when you're given the quest "capture an enemy commander", capture Gothmog, the largest Mordor force. And put off completing the quest until the last second.

Oh and when you talk to guildmasters when they give you the quest to escort a caravan you have unlimited time to escort them. So you can abuse this to keep 1 caravan assisting your forces if you need a few extra allies to help you out in combat.
Kinda cheesy but it helps when you're struggling for getting men.

Originally posted by Viral:

there is no excuse for the glaring issues and unsorted bugs or even worse, the working as intended ♥♥♥♥ block issues :/

How about the excuse none of us are paid for this? How about the mod is open source and you're free to contribute?

What bugs? Have you reported them? Have you even looked at our Trello board and seen how many things we're working on?

♥♥♥♥ block issues? Like what?

Originally posted by Merlkir:

Originally posted by Viral:

there is no excuse for the glaring issues and unsorted bugs or even worse, the working as intended ♥♥♥♥ block issues :/

How about the excuse none of us are paid for this? How about the mod is open source and you're free to contribute?

I changed up some sound files is there somewhere I can share the edits?
It's just a few victory cheers and the troll damage given a bit more reverb and beefed up a bit so it sounds a bit more over the top.

Not a pro sound editor btw.

Maybe Soundcloud?

Originally posted by Merlkir:

Maybe Soundcloud?

Kinda meant where would I send the folder with the sound files and then where would I send the link?

I guess google drive might work.

Either GD, or Soundcloud, feel free to share it here.

Originally posted by Merlkir:

Either GD, or Soundcloud, feel free to share it here.

Okay i'll get it setup at some point in future. In a new thread though.
Might actually have a shot and redoing a few more, I played around with adding a little synth sound to the elf victory ones so you get a little "holy" sort of sound. Might think about doing something similar for the other races.
With others I altered the volume so it's a little louder, ones like the "elf elfsong" were a little quiet for me.
With most there's a bit of an echo to the yells (reverb).

Looking through the files i've altered so far
arrow hit body 1-3 (original sounds too much like an arrow hitting wood and a bit loud)
dwarf 1-9
elf basic victory 1-5
elf yells 1-10
lothlorien yells
mirkwood yells
rivendell yells
gondor yells 1-6
troll death and grunts

Which in the whole file isn't a huge amount really. Most of the basic sound effects are fine, the orc/goblin sounds are pretty good as is.
I like most of the basic rohan sounds imo though they could use a little fixing with volume.
Would probably alter some more of the human sounds, maybe make the nazgul screech a little louder.

I did all that cos I have an old version of ableton on my pc and did some dabbling with music. Not very good music but enough working knowledge to tinker with basic sound effects I think.

Originally posted by Kham:

Hi there,

Aside from the tips others have given, here are a few more:

• If you are having trouble with the defend village quest cause you either are low level or you don't have enough troops to win, I suggest you do Guildmaster quests, like kill troublesome orcs.
  
• You can also just keep attacking tribal orcs til you get your men leveled up.
  
• It takes a few hours - 1 day for barracks to stock up on new recruits. Perhaps kill a few tribal orcs, wait a day, then hire some more men?
  
• You can go to the Warband options menu and reduce combat damage to yourself and your allies.
  
• In the next steam build, we will be reducing the amount of parties on the map, leading to mordor not becoming too powerful right at the beginning. Doesn't mean they will become weak though, they'll just be less of a steamroller.

Let me know if any of the above help.

Hey Khan big fan, played 150+ hours. To try and help Gondor players can you try and do something about the Gonder Lords suiciding or refusing Imhrahil leaving him to die.

I used this method and I beat the game I hope It'll help you . I played as a rohan (cause gondor is really hard for beginnig since there are too many enemys focused on gondor). I recruited soldiers as many as I can and made quest (But not the hard ones like you said). The trick was rohan has incredibly strong horse archers and I strongly suggest you to make your army from rohan skirmishers. When they become "thengel" they are literally unstoppable. I won 400 vs 100 battles with whole man of thengel. It's not an easy mod, sometimes being really mean but It's not unbeatable trust me.

IMO Its ridiculous how Mordor just beats the ♥♥♥♥♥ out of Gondor and the main reason is those stupid super large insanely over powered trolls they are not cool its totally unbalanced 5 of those ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ attacking your tiny army of 50 get the ♥♥♥♥ out of here! Also Gondors cities all of godors cities should have a far bigger garrison as it is i just read endless messages about poor Gondor getting their arse kicked unless i spend ALL my time fighting for them

oh and those stupid goblin nuisance quests are a disaster if your a large army you cant catch them before someone else does same with troll and goblin quests also they dont always spawn anywhere near where they should and if you a rookie they will tear you appart