@havokscorp Generally, I would say yes, but definitely not mid-tactical save. But to avoid bugs, it might be better to just modify the sight modifier values in the config.

is this safe to remove mid campaign?

Yeah sorry I got into a bit of complaining there

Alright then. I have no idea what's happening to me and I'll accept that.

I also love classic xcom, but this was getting to be campaign ending for me, thus I adjusted it

Thanks for the awesome mod regardless, I didn't mean to sound ungrateful

@WaldoTheRanger Whether or not it counts as a Night Mission is actually based on what Light Map the game uses during Map Generation, which is determined by the Geoscape's time of day, and is also affected by Skyranger flight times, as time passes during Skyranger flight. Various mods could alter the factors involved, so I don't think there's any sane way I could set up the UI specifically to address this issue on my end without stepping on a lot of toes.

As for the goggles, they work the way they do simply because I didn't want to completely nullify, or even partially nullify the Night Blindness mechanic. This mod is more of a homage to Classic X-COM UFO Defense's Night Missions than anything else, which is also why the penalties are what they are. And these are actually much more forgiving than Classic UFO Defense's Night Missions.

I also disagree with nightgoogles being an ability and not a permanent affect. I understand if it's a coding limitation, but surely the batteries on even basic nods are not that shitty, right?

speaking of which, basic, early game nods would be cool.
maybe as something that you can occasionally buy on the black market?

Lastly, looking down at the other comments, I'm guessing @Skarsatai 2.0 is also seeing the same problem I am.
Curious if you think my theory would explain what you're seeing too

So, just to be clear, you didn't mess with the things in the game code that determines what is night mission or not?

if so, is it possible that the times that the clock tells you are UTC, and the mission generation is affected by timezones?

after more observation, I think this would finally explain the behavior I'm seeing.

If this is the case, an update to the UI (if possible) would be much appreciated.

As it is, I have never found a reason to equip any items that counter lost sight radius, because it's way too hard trying to figure out when they'll actually help or not.

Also I think that some penalties are a bit too harsh and not quite realistic. I have some reasoning, the main one being moonlight, but I digress. I've changed them for myself.

@TrooperCoon In theory, it should be safe. But, as with any mid-campaign mod removal, I would make a backup save just in case.

would it be safe to remove this mid campaign? i realized that the combination of this and double pod count is beating my ass too hard and i want to back off a bit lmao

@clw6 That is entirely working as intended. ADVENT, Aliens, Robotics (and thus Sparks/Proxians/SHIVs/etc), are unaffected. The Night Mission Mechanics in this mod are designed to replicate an experience similar to the Classic X-COM UFO Defense Night Missions.

A great idea but the same night rules do not apply to Advent? The underground missions are hell bc they can detect you as normal but you have to get within 5-6 tiles to even see them.

Sry fo late response RL strikes back. The googles activation does not show up. If they should appear where grenades and abilities are then they are 100% missing for me.
What could overwrite the ability?

@Skarsatai 2.0 Not possible to force it via command, no.

@ShinyNobody They can only be activated at night, they do absolutely nothing during day.

question. sometimes in rual / urban Wilderness Dark night the night mission rules do not apply and I have full range sight. Is it possible to force it via command ?

wait a minute XD. I need to manual activate them? That explains a lot. How do i do that? in my abilitys i dont see a thing for that.

@ShinyNobody If you want to test if they're working with your mod setup, which they should be unless some weird mod you have installed is somehow disallowing modifiers to sight range on your units, which would normally prevent the night blindness from doing anything as well, Console Command in an enemy unit at the edge of your Soldier's vision range during a night mission, activate the goggles, and then move the soldier back a couple tiles. If the Soldier is at the front of the group, it should also visibly extend some of their sight range.

How can i check in mission if the googles are working?

@ReshiKillim - Thank you for the confirmation. We appreciate it. If there is anything we can do to assist, please let us know. And if you'd like to see our edits to those missions, we're happy to pass them along.

Thank you for the continued amazing content you provide for the community.

Syusa's Trail will be eventually getting released as a separate mod, once I'm done tinkering with it.

@ReshiKillim - Would like to speak to you directly as the AML O+E was originally concepted around original Syusa content that's deprecated. Explained here .

Wether Syusa's missions are planning to be rereleased, or wether funding or alternative development is needed to enable such, maybe a matter for private discussion.

@LeyShade I'm not exactly sure what you're talking about, please clarify?

@ReshiKillim - Sorry to post on mod page, please remove once seen. Please contact me regarding the AHW content, including deprecated ones, as would like to better understand the future AHW direction so can appropriately adapt my pack from Syusa content.

Hihi... for the Night Ops Goggles, is it possible for the eStat_Offense be separated into its own config please? Currently it is shared with AHW_NIGHTGOGGLE_SIGHT. Just wanted the goggles for sight bonus with 0 aim bonus.

No idea how simple this request is. If it is not, please ignore me. And only if it aligns with your plans yah. I am just along for the ride. Thank you for reading =) cheers...

@ShinyNobody It is completely doable, but not something I plan to add to this mod, as I personally don't use the Gene Mods myself.

An idea for a addition. There are gene mod mods.It is possible to make a gene mod that would stop that effect? i never modded but that sound interesting. But i dont know if that would even work.

@hassanrokhri31 That icon is added as support for the Unit Flag Extended mod, it won't appear without that mod being installed.

On gruffles video there was a purple icon indicating night blindness
but I only had the regular red debuff indicator
how to turn on purple icon?

Only Organic XCOM Units. May affect Playable Alien/ADVENT Units depending on what mod you're using and how it works. Sparks, ADVENT, Aliens, Shivs, if you have a mod that lets you build them, etc, are unaffected, even if you acquire them by sitrep (unless using a hypothetical really weird mod that does things in a really weird way, but that's highly unlikely).

This is intended to be a close approximation of how Night Missions worked in the Classic X-COM UFO Defense, with some differences.

does this affect also aliens sight?

@LeyShade It should be entirely possible, yes, but it's not something I'm looking to do, as the only real weather conditions X2 has is rain. Otherwise, it's just time of day.

@ReshiKillim - would it be possible, or would you be willing per say, to expand or make a similar module that does the same thing for weather/enviromental conditions, to truly esculate the torture?

@WaldoTheRanger Sunrise and sunset environments are not affected by Night Rules, biome and weather have no effect whatsoever. Only things that matter is the Time of Day or map type

@WaldoTheRanger, The answer your looking for is in the first paragraph of the description. (Clue - "Depending on the Environment").

Ah nope. Did not clear up

Got a "Shadowy" Debuff at 13:45 geoscape time just now

Just trying to explain what looked like weird behavior to me

Ah well.
Been awhile since I cleaned my mod configs, maybe it'll clear up after I do that

I think you are reading too much into it. The game simply has "day" and "night" missions.. loosely based around the Geoscape clock and mission start time.

If the game determines it's a night mission, you get a sight penalty. Simple.

I mean I've seen the modifiers in the ini for after it's already determined it's night, so I know map type does have affect there

but like, for example, does colder enviroment change how early it is when night kicks in?

Aight. Maybe I was imagining it

Does weather or biome impact it at all?

Or maybe I'm just underestimating what difference early morning or late evening makes

@ReshiKillim Hi, could you remove or comment the 'LOG statements from X2Condition_NightTime? Those are run very very often and removing them will reduce frame-time in those cases. Thanks!

@WaldoTheRanger As far as I'm awarem Day/Night is based on geoscape clock during map generation. Which means, the only time counted is the time at what you arrive to the mission site, rather than the time at which you dispatch the skyranger

yeah I think that's the care
I've gotten both night missions that should have been day, based on geoscape clock, and day missions that should have been night
I'll need to pay closer attention to what they are when they generate

I'm having a lot of missions say that they're in day time, but still give me the shadowy affect

Using LWotC

Could it be that the day/night determination is applied on mission generation, instead of mission launch?

That matters cause those are often different in LW

now i want a flashlight item to increase visibility. XD

Ahh okie. Thank you. Thought i was going crazy not seeing any of it =D patiently waiting then ^^

@missymcmuffin That's not implemented yet, still a work in progress, at some point I'll be adding a little Current Geoscape Time is Day/Night panel on previewing missions (what determines whether a mission uses night mission rules or not) independent of Full Shadow Report

Hihi. I noticed with this recent update (16 July 10:53am), the "OGXComNightMissions" localization has new "strGeoscape" stuffs in it, and "XComGame" configs also has new "Hex and Panels" in it too. Also "Src" folder, there are new "ModConfigMenuAPI" too.

I don't see any of all these new things in-game. No panels. No MCM either =D so am wondering, are all these new stuff implemented yet? Or is it bugged on my end (LOL).

Thank you for making this. I am really enjoying this new gameplay that you had introduced. Keep on being evil. This really change things up a lot. Really appreciate lotsssss. Cheers...

@Zeonista This is more like old-school UFO Defense/Terror From The Deep, rather than EU/EW, which doesn't actually use the same night rules

So we can have old-school night missions like the ones I stumbled through in EU/EW? Excellent! That will put battle scanners in the usual mission kit!

Amazing mod! Terrain conditions feel underutilized and could had some extra diversity to missions. I wonder if something/what could be done with biome and weather conditions.

The sight change really forces a playstyle change, especially on open maps where it's fairly easy to get an up on Advent by camping on high ground. Sectoids, in particular, tend to stay out of sight range being annoying. A squadsight malus may also be interesting as a way to make snipers less effective and really force xcom to play more at close/mid range during night time.

Not sure if I missed it, but I didn't find an option for configure the cost of the flares in the .ini files. I'm playing with Covert Infiltration and the flares are more expensive than the battlescanners. :D

I'm sorry, I didn't pay attention to the icon because I expected to see a text message.

Really? It should show the time with a grey-night-icon ?