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|Z| Abo Salmon 16 września 2020 o 15:41
Why the word A B O was blocked?
It doesn't mean anything? or am I missing something?
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Spawn of Totoro 16 września 2020 o 15:59 
What word?

Even if filtered, please state it so I can pass it on. They are still working on the new filter.
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Teksura 16 września 2020 o 16:04 
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What word?

Even if filtered, please state it so I can pass it on. They are still working on the new filter.
♥♥♥, like in their display name.

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Spawn of Totoro 16 września 2020 o 16:05 
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What word?

Even if filtered, please state it so I can pass it on. They are still working on the new filter.
♥♥♥, like in their display name.

Thanks. Wasn't sure if it was an abbreviation or such, so wanted to clarify.
cinedine 16 września 2020 o 16:13 
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♥♥♥, like in their display name.

Thanks. Wasn't sure if it was an abbreviation or such, so wanted to clarify.

FWIW it's also short for abonnement -> subscription. Which I imagine can be a bit irritating talking about subscriptions in German or French (and possibly others).
Teksura 16 września 2020 o 16:15 
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Thanks. Wasn't sure if it was an abbreviation or such, so wanted to clarify.

FWIW it's also short for abonnement -> subscription. Which I imagine can be a bit irritating talking about subscriptions in German or French (and possibly others).
All I could find searching Google was about blood types. But I was also only searching English. It might be possible that it means something in another language or culture that I'm not familiar with and that Google wouldn't think is what I actually want to know about.
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Darren 16 września 2020 o 17:06 
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FWIW it's also short for abonnement -> subscription. Which I imagine can be a bit irritating talking about subscriptions in German or French (and possibly others).
All I could find searching Google was about blood types. But I was also only searching English. It might be possible that it means something in another language or culture that I'm not familiar with and that Google wouldn't think is what I actually want to know about.

Oh it's a slur against Aboriginal Australians. Surprised google didn't show you that but I guess it is a bit Australia specific a usage.
cinedine 16 września 2020 o 17:46 
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All I could find searching Google was about blood types. But I was also only searching English. It might be possible that it means something in another language or culture that I'm not familiar with and that Google wouldn't think is what I actually want to know about.

Oh it's a slur against Aboriginal Australians. Surprised google didn't show you that but I guess it is a bit Australia specific a usage.

I wonder how often that comes up to justify a censor. :lunar2019deadpanpig:
Currently I think they had some poor intern set unto finding all slurs and alterations of Four Letter Words they can and fed it to the filter without thinking.

I think I've said it before already, but the more aggressive or fuzzy a filter the more useless it becomes because it makes proper communications unbearable.
I remember way back in the NfS Underground (1) lobbies where you had to pre-face nearly every German word beginning with b with an x. Especially "Ich bin (I am)".
Also World of Warcraft had German "sow" and "pig" in the filter because it's used as a light slur. In the human starting area you had a group quest killing .. a pig. Back in the days when there was actual communication required to find a group. So many Germans deactivated the filter like ten minutes into the game. :lunar2019grinningpig:
|Z| Abo Salmon 17 września 2020 o 0:21 
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All I could find searching Google was about blood types. But I was also only searching English. It might be possible that it means something in another language or culture that I'm not familiar with and that Google wouldn't think is what I actually want to know about.

Oh it's a slur against Aboriginal Australians. Surprised google didn't show you that but I guess it is a bit Australia specific a usage.
Kinda stupid since in other language -arabic- it means "father of".
KillahInstinct 17 września 2020 o 1:22 
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Oh it's a slur against Aboriginal Australians. Surprised google didn't show you that but I guess it is a bit Australia specific a usage.
Kinda stupid since in other language -arabic- it means "father of".
The word ♥♥♥ should only be filtered in chat, and only for English. Trying to fix this on the forums.
Ostatnio edytowany przez: KillahInstinct; 17 września 2020 o 1:22
|Z| Abo Salmon 17 września 2020 o 3:58 
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Kinda stupid since in other language -arabic- it means "father of".
The word ♥♥♥ should only be filtered in chat, and only for English. Trying to fix this on the forums.
aite thanks :).
Radene 17 września 2020 o 4:24 
I don't think this experiment will go over that well, after a week of seeing what it's wreaking.

KillahInstinct 17 września 2020 o 5:34 
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I don't think this experiment will go over that well, after a week of seeing what it's wreaking.
Isn't that why its an experiment? From what I can tell from the backend this will require a lot of tweaking but ultimately benefit us all, mostly because of the language specific settings.

That said, it could have been rolled out a bit more carefully and planned. It apparently rolled over from chat to forums to reviews to nicknames and noone knew till it was too late.

I have been giving a lot of feedback behind the scenes and really think it will be pretty samn good after this initial phase (which is often the case, just a bit more extreme). In fact I don't even think its an experiment at this point.. it is for chat but not the rest.
Radene 17 września 2020 o 10:54 
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I don't think this experiment will go over that well, after a week of seeing what it's wreaking.
Isn't that why its an experiment? From what I can tell from the backend this will require a lot of tweaking but ultimately benefit us all, mostly because of the language specific settings.

That said, it could have been rolled out a bit more carefully and planned. It apparently rolled over from chat to forums to reviews to nicknames and noone knew till it was too late.

I have been giving a lot of feedback behind the scenes and really think it will be pretty samn good after this initial phase (which is often the case, just a bit more extreme). In fact I don't even think its an experiment at this point.. it is for chat but not the rest.

I mean, yeah, it's going to end up being a feature, I'm sure. But it's causing way more trouble that it should, and at some point even Valve will run out of the "let's just go on and forget we ever had this problem" rope.

I'm surely not the only one who feels like we're being treated like guinea pigs rather than equal contractual partners. It's not even the word filter that's the problem, it's how Valve just treats its userbase like lab rats.

(That said, if anyone asks "why I'm still here", it's because having a bunch of stupid 'social' feature developments doesn't invalidate Steam as a storefront; and last I checked we are free to be critical of what Valve is doing)
Ostatnio edytowany przez: Radene; 17 września 2020 o 10:56
Teksura 17 września 2020 o 10:57 
In my experience, rolling out a word filter is often a messy process. The easiest way to set up a word filter is to use a pre-existing list that someone else has already constructed. This was done on one Discord Server I'm admin for, and for the next several months we had frequent bumps where the bot would trigger on something that it really had no business triggering on. So I'd have to step in and adjust the settings.

I was just doing this for a simple Discord server that only has to worry about English, and over a year later we are still adjusting things here and there (although it is far less frequent now.)

I imagine it is a far more complex issue for Steam, which has to consider multiple languages and possible places where the filter may be applied differently. So this rough patch does not surprise me in the slightest. This isn't the first topic I've seen recently regarding the new filter. But I do keep seeing our volunteer mods stepping up to spend their own time to help get that sorted. And thank you for that.
Count_Dandyman 18 września 2020 o 7:41 
Umm ok kind of surprised no-one else mentioned this but there is another meaning to putting those three letters together its the identifier for a subset of erotic romance and porn that is infamous for containing some rather questionable content more commonly known as the Omegaverse.

Still feels odd to see it get hit with the full filter but that might be part of the reason its flagged depending on the filters settings.
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