Games for XP and Vista

[wannaplay]

Has anyone noticed that Steam continues to sell games for XP and Vista even though the Steam app for these operating systems is no longer working? I wrote to the support, but there is no answer. I think that's scam. What do you think?

Hat jemand mitbekommen, dass Steam weiterhin Spiele für XP und Vista verkauft, obwohl die Steam-App für diese Betriebssysteme nicht mehr funktioniert? Ich habe dem Support geschrieben, aber es kommt keine Antwort. Ich denke, das ist Betrug. Was denkt ihr?

[ReBoot]

What's preventing you from playing such a game on 10? Serious questions ion. Save for Gothic, I've yet to meet a game not running on 10 (and for that, theres a community patch). And yup, that includes Fallout 3 of which people claim it doesnt run on 10 with Windows offering you a straightforward solution itself. I think, no, I know, that you're overdramatizing the situation.

[Cathulhu]

Where's the probloem? Generally XP and Vista games run without issues on modern systems. With a few games there are some hoops to hop through though.
Calling Steam a scam or fraud is pretty much unfair and uncalled.

Wo ist das Problem? XP und Vista Spiele laufen in der Regel problemlos auch auf neueren Betriebssystemen. Zugegeben, bei ein paar Spielen muss man einen Hauch nachhelfen, aber da gibt es in der Regel gute Anleitungen von der Community.
Steam Betrug vorzuwerfen ist da schon ziemlich unfair.

P.S.: Gothic 1 for Windows 10, German guide:
https://praxistipps.chip.de/gothic-1-unter-windows-10-spielen-so-gehts_94233
Two patches and allegedly it runs without issues.

[Crazy Tiger]

wannaplay님이 먼저 게시:

Has anyone noticed that Steam continues to sell games for XP and Vista even though the Steam app for these operating systems is no longer working? I wrote to the support, but there is no answer. I think that's scam. What do you think?

Just because the system requirements list XP/Vista, doesn't mean they don't work on 7, 8 or 10. I've got plenty of older games running on this Win 10, most are the disc-versions.

People throw around the word "scam" way too easily.

[Black Blade]

So far I honestly only found one game that really had an issue with running on 10, and even then the game is not really on Steam, and the main problem is the DRM on it or a driver for it that does not work, and I am looking for a workaround that I think I am most likely going to find one that will get it working.

Even more, I will point that for Spilter cell users also made a path thing to get even the graphite to look better, as they had with a driver that is not on Windows 10 (And HD textures from PS3 that is awesome)

Also, point out we had a topic before, and basically keep asking for games that were unable to run on Windows 10, and most of them run without any path or anything as is, few have DRM issues that were fixable one way or the other, and very very few needed a patch on them to run.

As much as I can recall we did not find one game that was unable to run on Windows 10 (or that run worst as being on windows 10)
Some claim to have a game, but I yet to see a case like that

[Start_Running]

Translation. people keep saying it.. but no one seems to be able to provide any evidence.

[Count_Dandyman]

Start_Running님이 먼저 게시:

Translation. people keep saying it.. but no one seems to be able to provide any evidence.

or they blindly link a thread with an opening post saying they can't get it to work and 6+ replies showing how to make it work and the op saying thanks it is working now.

[wuddih]

the system requirements are >minimum<, this also includes the operating system.

if a game was developed in a way that would make it impossible to get it to run natively on a successor version of the operating system then it was originally designed for, then the product owner has to point that out on the store page. (i have seen that once on Steam, can't find it again)

aside from that, PC is still an open platform that requires problem solving skills from its users.
you are expected to compare and interpret system requirements and you are expected to solve issues you run into. just because a game does not run after download and clicking play, does not mean it does not work, it just means you might have to do something to get it to run on your system configuration.

[Ruse]

Valve has no control over what developers do.

[nullable]

wannaplay님이 먼저 게시:

Has anyone noticed that Steam continues to sell games for XP and Vista even though the Steam app for these operating systems is no longer working? I wrote to the support, but there is no answer. I think that's scam. What do you think?

I think your ignorance and assumptions are astounding. No wait, that's not it, typical. That's the word. Good job doing even five seconds of research though to see if your thoughts had any merit.

I mean in addition to your nonsense, consider this.

1. Developers decide what to sell on Steam.

2. Developers don't update system requirements typically. This doesn't mean games won't run unless the developer updates the system requirements.

3. There's a refund system if you happen to buy an old game that will not run... refund it.

There is literally no problem.

[Laptop]

Just because system requirements only go up to XP / Vista doesn't mean it does not work on more recent Windows operating systems. The developers just haven't updated it.

[ShelLuser]

wannaplay님이 먼저 게시:

Has anyone noticed that Steam continues to sell games for XP and Vista even though the Steam app for these operating systems is no longer working? I wrote to the support, but there is no answer. I think that's scam. What do you think?

I think you have no idea what a real scam actually is.

Where's the scam in selling something that works on a modern OS without any (or not too many) problems?

I'd also like to back up @ReBoot's comment up there: I'm also a happy Fallout 3 PC player. It took a bit of puzzling to get it running (also because I didn't read the pinned thread but instead started experimenting with Windows compatibility mode), but it runs without any issues.

[ReBoot]

ShelLuser님이 먼저 게시:

I'd also like to back up @ReBoot's comment up there: I'm also a happy Fallout 3 PC player. It took a bit of puzzling to get it running (also because I didn't read the pinned thread but instead started experimenting with Windows compatibility mode), but it runs without any issues.

When I tried to start it, Windows 10 popped up by itself telling me to download the GFWL installer which I did and the game ran fine, didn't even have to consult any pinned thread. I am curious here, did you get a similar popup but missed it or did Microsoft change something in the meanwhile?

[ShelLuser]

ReBoot님이 먼저 게시:

I am curious here, did you get a similar popup but missed it or did Microsoft change something in the meanwhile?

Well, I am using win10 professional so that could be a difference. Either that or they changed something because when I started Fallout 3 at first it just quit.

Then I used the compatibility mode and I got an error about a missing "windowslivelogin.dll" so I knew I was missing something. That's when I figured that I might want to read some pinned threads ;)

[ReBoot]

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ReBoot님이 먼저 게시:

I am curious here, did you get a similar popup but missed it or did Microsoft change something in the meanwhile?

Well, I am using win10 professional so that could be a difference. Either that or they changed something because when I started Fallout 3 at first it just quit.

I'm on 10 professional myself. And when I started it, it also just quit but I also got a popup from Windwos telling me to install GFWL. After the game quit, I mean.