FreeMediaKids! 2015 年 5 月 27 日 上午 8:53
Make ESRB Ratings Mandatory
For some reason, I cannot imagine an online store who would not always display ESRB ratings, which is annoying because we must keep going on www.esrb.org just to know their ratings.

In my country, it is the law to tag games with ESRB ratings in retail stores (and maybe online stores), but THIS store is very exclusive about it, and in my opinion shall this be mandatory. Any thoughts, have ye? My point is that I do not want to keep going on ESRB's website just to find out their ratings and that it is probably not allowed in my country to sell games and not tag them with ESRB ratings. I also do not see how the law would be happy only about this.
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Black Blade 2015 年 5 月 27 日 上午 9:00 
First i am not sure all games have ESRB Ratings, so not sure how good that will work...

Second at these time i think the dev set to put it on, i assume they do not as they just forget or just not see it needed that much

And i think maybe setting it as an automated thing will not be too bad any how, for games that do have it, and maybe also have a few others? i do not think all contrary use ESRB Ratings for there games
Spawn of Totoro 2015 年 5 月 27 日 上午 9:01 
ESRB ratings are not required by law in the US. It is completely voluntary on the developer's part, just as it is up to the developer to show their rating on Steam.

http://www.esrb.org/ratings/faq.jsp#2

Are all games and apps required to have a rating?

The rating system is voluntary, although virtually all video games that are sold at retail in the U.S. and Canada are rated by the ESRB. Many U.S. retailers, including most major chains, have policies to only stock or sell games that carry an ESRB rating, and console manufacturers require games that are published on their systems in the U.S. and Canada to be rated by ESRB.
eram 2015 年 5 月 27 日 上午 9:02 
Almost all the store videos start with the ESRB rating.
FreeMediaKids! 2015 年 5 月 27 日 上午 9:05 
引用自 Spawn of Totoro
ESRB ratings are not required by law in the US. It is completely voluntary on the developer's part, just as it is up to the developer to show their rating on Steam.

http://www.esrb.org/ratings/faq.jsp#2

Are all games and apps required to have a rating?

The rating system is voluntary, although virtually all video games that are sold at retail in the U.S. and Canada are rated by the ESRB. Many U.S. retailers, including most major chains, have policies to only stock or sell games that carry an ESRB rating, and console manufacturers require games that are published on their systems in the U.S. and Canada to be rated by ESRB.
O. Well, I still think that it would be not good for companies who publish games on Steam to "hide" ESRB ratings deliberately if they could help adding these ratings.
FreeMediaKids! 2015 年 5 月 27 日 上午 9:06 
引用自 erλm
Almost all the store videos start with the ESRB rating.
Calculate that by a fraction.
Start_Running 2015 年 5 月 27 日 上午 9:48 
引用自 gamingforfun365
引用自 Spawn of Totoro
ESRB ratings are not required by law in the US. It is completely voluntary on the developer's part, just as it is up to the developer to show their rating on Steam.

http://www.esrb.org/ratings/faq.jsp#2
O. Well, I still think that it would be not good for companies who publish games on Steam to "hide" ESRB ratings deliberately if they could help adding these ratings.

They're actually not likely to do that for fear of lawsuits.

The ERSB is not a global standard just like the MPAA is not an international standard. Different countries have different taboos and different contextual weight for taboos. A famous example is what counts as 'Underaged' in Japan is different from the US. It's when many games come stateside the characters have their ages bumped up by about 3-5 years.

Most publishers though even if they don't used the ESRB or PEGI rating system will voluntarily point out any potentially offensive material. Because otherwise there would be a nasty repercussion.
Satoru 2015 年 5 月 27 日 上午 10:01 
1) Rating systems are different in different countries ESRB in NA, CERO in Japan, PEGI in the EU.

2) Each game requires you to pay a few grand to get the certification for each authority

3) Ratings for most countries is voluntary since most rating agencies aren't even government agencies at all but entirely independent authorities
wuddih 2015 年 5 月 27 日 上午 10:14 
引用自 Satoru
CERO in Japan
it is EOCS, not CERO, CERO is for console peasants.
最后由 wuddih 编辑于; 2015 年 5 月 27 日 上午 10:15
Zunnoab #931 2015 年 5 月 28 日 下午 4:25 
引用自 gamingforfun365
引用自 Spawn of Totoro
ESRB ratings are not required by law in the US. It is completely voluntary on the developer's part, just as it is up to the developer to show their rating on Steam.

http://www.esrb.org/ratings/faq.jsp#2
O. Well, I still think that it would be not good for companies who publish games on Steam to "hide" ESRB ratings deliberately if they could help adding these ratings.
If they actually have ESRB ratings it would help to show them. Freedom of expression is very important in the USA, and there are very few exceptions to that rule especially in the modern era. Policing video game content violates that right, and so the ESRB is a voluntary system and while most mainstream stores would not stock an unrated game, there is no "right" to be able to check the rating of a game. If someone does not want unrated games, obviously they can simply avoid them.

In several countries the law-regulated ratings systems are used as a form of censorship, by requiring a rating by law but then rating something as unclassified. That wouldn't fly here in the USA, and while we have our problems this is one of our strengths. Now de facto commercial censorship occurs, even with Steam, where a store will refuse to carry a product with an Adults Only rating or without a rating, but that's another issue altogether.

Because of this, while obviously people should be easily able to filter by rating or lack thereof (and I have no idea how well Steam does this as is), I have to strongly voice my personal opposition to the idea of requiring posted ratings. Looking it up, it seems the ESRB does scale the fee to rate a game based on the game's budget. That's fair. Still, I think a filtering system does the job just fine, and imposing more limiting rules would be a grave mistake.
Start_Running 2015 年 5 月 28 日 下午 4:49 
引用自 Zunnoab
引用自 gamingforfun365
O. Well, I still think that it would be not good for companies who publish games on Steam to "hide" ESRB ratings deliberately if they could help adding these ratings.
If they actually have ESRB ratings it would help to show them. Freedom of expression is very important in the USA, and there are very few exceptions to that rule especially in the modern era. Policing video game content violates that right, and so the ESRB is a voluntary system and while most mainstream stores would not stock an unrated game, there is no "right" to be able to check the rating of a game. If someone does not want unrated games, obviously they can simply avoid them.

Incorrect on that last part there mate. truth be told you as a customer have the right to fyll disclosure from the producer. Just in the same way a customer at a diner has the right to know if any peanuts were handled by the cook. It's why even in games without ERSB ratings there is typically disclosure as to content. Nuditic, violence, Sexual content, etc.

In several countries the law-regulated ratings systems are used as a form of censorship, by requiring a rating by law but then rating something as unclassified. That wouldn't fly here in the USA, and while we have our problems this is one of our strengths. Now de facto commercial censorship occurs, even with Steam, where a store will refuse to carry a product with an Adults Only rating or without a rating, but that's another issue altogether.

Need to look up what censorship means sometime. A retailer choosing not to sell a product is not censorship, a retailer has the right to sell or not sell an item. Simply put, certain stores don't want to be associated with certain products.

Because of this, while obviously people should be easily able to filter by rating or lack thereof (and I have no idea how well Steam does this as is), I have to strongly voice my personal opposition to the idea of requiring posted ratings. Looking it up, it seems the ESRB does scale the fee to rate a game based on the game's budget. That's fair. Still, I think a filtering system does the job just fine, and imposing more limiting rules would be a grave mistake.

Bigger budget games usually have much more content that requires review. In any case, regardless it is usually in the publisher's best interest to give some disclosure about the content, it helps to avoid law suits.
Zunnoab #931 2015 年 5 月 28 日 下午 5:02 
The thing is, no one is making anyone buy anything. Don't games on the Steam store typically say what they are about? It would seem ridiculous to voluntarily buy something without having information and then file a lawsuit about it. It would be different if the presented information was misleading of course.
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