Google/Apple Pay :: Suggestions / Ideas

Cathulhu Dec 16, 2019 @ 9:52am

Not going to happen due to fees and risks involved for Valve. It's not worth it.

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RemyXIII® Dec 16, 2019 @ 1:29pm

F no

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cSg|mc-Hotsauce Dec 16, 2019 @ 1:57pm

A fee from Apple/Google to add money from them, nah. Easier to buy wallet cards or use a credit card.

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76561198407601200 Dec 16, 2019 @ 2:19pm

Originally posted by KubaVejrazka:
Please can you add Google/Apple pay as a payment method on Steam? It would be really nice...

Care to elaborate as to why that would be really nice? You are also aware that you can add funds to your steam wallet with gift cards?

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Dr.Shadowds 🐉 Dec 16, 2019 @ 4:02pm

Apple does not play nice with others that they don't agree with, or like, plus this can lead to issues, as Apple will demand a cut on the transactions as well, not only that but would give them a reason to target Steam again, which pretty obvious why Steam will most likely not be supporting Apple pay in the future.

Google just not going to be that great, they also ask for fee cut as well just like Apple, and Steam will have to supply a little more cooperation in handing payments, and more. If things don't work it, then it just doesn't work it, which is possibly why it just never happen.

FYI Steam was wallet cards.
https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=1193-wlxv-6514

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cinedine Dec 16, 2019 @ 4:28pm

Originally posted by Dr.Shadowds 🐉:

Google just not going to be that great, they also ask for fee cut as well just like Apple [...]

... and every. other. payment provider. That's how they make money. That's one of the reasons Steam takes a cut.

Last edited by Spawn of Totoro; Dec 30, 2019 @ 5:35am

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aiusepsi Dec 16, 2019 @ 4:33pm

Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:
A fee from Apple/Google to add money from them, nah. Easier to buy wallet cards or use a credit card.

I don't know for sure about Google Pay, but Apple Pay costs nothing for the merchant to accept.

Are there additional fees to accept Apple Pay?
No. Apple doesn't charge any additional fees.

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204274

I wish people would stop authoritatively saying things about topics they actually know nothing about.

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Dr.Shadowds 🐉 Dec 16, 2019 @ 10:48pm

Originally posted by cinedine:
... and every. other. payment provider. That's how they make money. That's one of the reasons Steam takes a cut.

Sorry I should've put into more details, yea all of them ask for payment, but for apple I can see this giving them a reason to make another big stink about Steam, now apple and Google fee is 15% cut on their storr, if I remember right compare to popular payments for the same currencies supported on popular one that charge less than them, plus they don't need to apply to the service rule, for what acceptable, and what not for a payment option, which we already know they don't like certain things being sold on their platform, so that might have a role in that too.

Originally posted by aiusepsi:
Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:
A fee from Apple/Google to add money from them, nah. Easier to buy wallet cards or use a credit card.
I don't know for sure about Google Pay, but Apple Pay costs nothing for the merchant to accept.

Are there additional fees to accept Apple Pay?
No. Apple doesn't charge any additional fees.
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204274

I wish people would stop authoritatively saying things about topics they actually know nothing about.

Hmm not sure, was thinking this would be apple under the apple app store, but also reading the link, it saying that you need to collect more personal information such as ID, and etc, which vary by country, and if that the case, I can see Steam being turned off from that.

Just thinking here, isn't Apple Pay just linking a credit card, same as PayPal? So would OP be confusing it with Apple cash, or whatever it's called that used for the app store, for their wallet system?

Last edited by Dr.Shadowds 🐉; Dec 16, 2019 @ 11:01pm

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victor.zimmer Jul 9, 2021 @ 2:30pm

Sorry to bump an old post, but I was searching for this today and I'm probably not alone getting this page as the first result.

If you want to use Apple Pay, be it for privacy, convenience, or out of necessity then unfortunately Valve has chosen not to accept it. However there are plenty of other online stores that will sell you a game with a steam key and receive your payment using Apple Pay. One example of such a store is the WinGameStore / MacGameStore. GOG.com will also accept Apple and Google pay, however they do not provide Steam keys.

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cSg|mc-Hotsauce Jul 9, 2021 @ 2:58pm

Originally posted by victor.zimmer:
Sorry to bump an old post, but I was searching for this today and I'm probably not alone getting this page as the first result.

If you want to use Apple Pay, be it for privacy, convenience, or out of necessity then unfortunately Valve has chosen not to accept it. However there are plenty of other online stores that will sell you a game with a steam key and receive your payment using Apple Pay. One example of such a store is the WinGameStore / MacGameStore. GOG.com will also accept Apple and Google pay, however they do not provide Steam keys.

With the history of Apple towards Valve not letting the mobile authenticator get updates for years on iOS and even the Steam Link situation...

https://9to5mac.com/2021/03/22/steam-link-client-now-available-on-the-mac-app-store-for-macos-users/

And there is the current issue where Apple forced Valve through a court order by a judge...

https://www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2021/2/25/22301259/valve-apple-steam-sales-data-subpoena-epic-games

Valve may never accept Apple Pay.

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Dr.Shadowds 🐉 Jul 9, 2021 @ 3:09pm

Originally posted by victor.zimmer:
Sorry to bump an old post, but I was searching for this today and I'm probably not alone getting this page as the first result.

If you want to use Apple Pay, be it for privacy, convenience, or out of necessity then unfortunately Valve has chosen not to accept it. However there are plenty of other online stores that will sell you a game with a steam key and receive your payment using Apple Pay. One example of such a store is the WinGameStore / MacGameStore. GOG.com will also accept Apple and Google pay, however they do not provide Steam keys.

Apply pay still on GoG, thought that was dropped unless that was only for US, or certain parts of EU? I know google play there. But most keys retrails don't use google pay, or apple pay either still.

I still think Apple might have beef with Steam because of game content as they were making a big stink about it in the past, as there was updates being delay just for IOS mobile app. I don't think Google will care, so possible that google pay might become a thing, but again up to Steam, the only issue how many people really going to use either of these really.

-edit-
typo correction.

Last edited by Dr.Shadowds 🐉; Jul 10, 2021 @ 12:59pm

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aiusepsi Jul 10, 2021 @ 2:24am

Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:
With the history of Apple towards Valve not letting the mobile authenticator get updates for years on iOS and even the Steam Link situation...

https://9to5mac.com/2021/03/22/steam-link-client-now-available-on-the-mac-app-store-for-macos-users/

That link makes pretty much the exact opposite point to the one you seem to be trying to make about there being a beef between Valve and Apple. If Valve were so furious with Apple that they no longer want to have anything to do with them, why would they make a port of the iOS Steam Link app to Mac?

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wuddih Jul 10, 2021 @ 2:45am

Originally posted by aiusepsi:
Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:
With the history of Apple towards Valve not letting the mobile authenticator get updates for years on iOS and even the Steam Link situation...

https://9to5mac.com/2021/03/22/steam-link-client-now-available-on-the-mac-app-store-for-macos-users/

That link makes pretty much the exact opposite point to the one you seem to be trying to make about there being a beef between Valve and Apple. If Valve were so furious with Apple that they no longer want to have anything to do with them, why would they make a port of the iOS Steam Link app to Mac?

Valve has no real beef with Apple. Valve simply tries to also get a presence on iOS/Mac to ensure the same experience of the service throughout platforms.
Apple blocked that for quite some time and they still block updates to their apps from time to time .-.. and Apples main argument is: "Yoho GabeN, you have a store in yer apps, gimme a cut, arrrrrrrrr".

thread references:
https://payments.google.com/seller/fees.html
1.9% .. which is juicier than most CC fees but 30cents per transaction, which makes it unusable for Steam because too much cheap stuff on Steam.
Apple Pay theoretically is free but pointless as the underlying payment methods for it are already available.

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aiusepsi Jul 11, 2021 @ 3:45am

Originally posted by wuddih:
thread references:
https://payments.google.com/seller/fees.html
1.9% .. which is juicier than most CC fees but 30cents per transaction, which makes it unusable for Steam because too much cheap stuff on Steam.

That page is talking about Google Checkout, which as the box at the top of the page notes, "has been retired. You can no longer process orders".

Google Pay doesn't have any additional charges on top of the usual credit card fees, see; https://developers.google.com/pay/api/faq#general-faq "Google Pay doesn't additionally charge users, merchants, and developers additional fees to use the Google Pay API for payments. Merchants, specifically, continue to pay processing fees to their payment processor."

Apple Pay theoretically is free but pointless as the underlying payment methods for it are already available.

It's not pointless, it significantly streamlines the process of making purchases. It simplifies payment down to two steps: 1) Click the Apple Pay button 2) Authorise payment by putting your finger on the TouchID sensor, or double-click the power button while looking at the device for things with FaceID. No entering card number or billing address.

Google Pay is a similar thing, although I don't have first-hand experience with it.

Anyway, streamlining the process of purchases is usually considered a good thing if you're trying to sell things. It's a massive win to turn a user who would have otherwise given up and not bought something because their wallet wasn't in their pocket so they couldn't type in their card number, into a customer because their purchase became two button-presses.

Last edited by aiusepsi; Jul 11, 2021 @ 3:46am

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Goldgamer Jul 30, 2021 @ 1:50am

Any news on that? Please valve add Apple Pay.
This would take no more cost for you and it’s pretty easy to implement

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