Stop putting age verification on games

[yumex (2)]

Its so annoying to have to enter my DOB everytime i look at a game, or my cue.. you already have my DOB stored in your system, so why do i need to enter it every single time..

If i run through my cue, i generally get 4 or five different games that i have to enter my DOB on.. There is no need.

since you are already aware of my age, you dont need to confirm it 4 or five times in 10 minutes..

[MrL0G1C]

+1 it's a pointless nuisance. There are options in the steam client and steam should remember this, and it offers a tick-box to remember and then forgets, quit using cookies for permanent stuff.

[76561198001062896]

Originally posted by MrL0G1C:

+1 it's a pointless nuisance. There are options in the steam client and steam should remember this, and it offers a tick-box to remember and then forgets, quit using cookies for permanent stuff.

once again legal requirements

Originally posted by Krappleby:

Its so annoying to have to enter my DOB everytime i look at a game, or my cue.. you already have my DOB stored in your system, so why do i need to enter it every single time..

If i run through my cue, i generally get 4 or five different games that i have to enter my DOB on.. There is no need.

since you are already aware of my age, you dont need to confirm it 4 or five times in 10 minutes..

repeatr after me: LEGAL
REGULATION


what you think is needed or not needed means just about nothing, Valve has to adhere to certain rules if they wish to keep doing business in said countries, thats it

[yumex (2)]

LEGAL REGULATION

that is what my DOB in my account is for, to prove i am over 18, so their is no need for it..

If i go to the pub, and ask for a beer, and i show my id, to prove im over 18, next time i got to that pub i dont have to show it again.. but its still thier legal right to prove im 18.

Firstly the only legal right is to prove im 18, which my profile does quite well.. secondly how will it prevent a child seeing the game anyway.. since i can simply put any DOB in. whereas my account is my DOB, it cannot be altered, so if i was a child IM SURE that would be more binding than me entering any DOB...?

so your argument is really null and void. since it is so easy to manipulate..

also. legal regulation stipulates that the game must be adveretised as 18, Just like any game in a shop.. it does not state, you must enter your DOB evertime you want to see it..

try it yourself, enter any date you like in the game info when it pops up.. no problem, even a 2 year old could look at these games..

Use the DOB in your profile, it is more than likely the most honest one on this site.

[wuddih]

the agegate entry is saved for the session. having to enter the date more then once in a short amount of time is a sign that something is wrong with your Steam installation or that you have excessive cleaning habits of browser-based cookies.

[yumex (2)]

i clean my cookies and saved files 1 a week. to prevent problems, but still end up with 3-5 age verifications every time i look at the cue. so this is incorrect.

[The_Driver]

Originally posted by Krappleby:

i clean my cookies and saved files 1 a week. to prevent problems, but still end up with 3-5 age verifications every time i look at the cue. so this is incorrect.

Then use your browser and have enhanced steam set to skip age gates automatically as a workaround to sane checks.

[ KARR™]

Originally posted by Krappleby:

LEGAL REGULATION

that is what my DOB in my account is for, to prove i am over 18, so their is no need for it..

If i go to the pub, and ask for a beer, and i show my id, to prove im over 18, next time i got to that pub i dont have to show it again.. but its still thier legal right to prove im 18.

Firstly the only legal right is to prove im 18, which my profile does quite well.. secondly how will it prevent a child seeing the game anyway.. since i can simply put any DOB in. whereas my account is my DOB, it cannot be altered, so if i was a child IM SURE that would be more binding than me entering any DOB...?

so your argument is really null and void. since it is so easy to manipulate..

There is an american law regarding what you can/can't show and what information you can/can't collect from minors. They need to know who is looking at that page at that time, regardless of who is logged into the pc, etc.

It isn't a Steam decision, it is specifically mentioned in the rules that they will accept the liability of the user at the time to state they are over a specific age at the moment they click through to the page in question. This means that if you log into your pc and steam and walk away, if someone who is underage walks up and clicks on the item, both you and Valve are protected as that user either confirmed they were underage (and not allowed entry) or confirmed they were over 18 - removing the liability as they signed they were overage.

Yes, anyone can simply put in a date that makes them appear over age, but that is that person stating the fact and if there is any future issue where Valve is investigated and they are found to be collecting information from minors... they have the proof the user confirmed they were over the age and were allowed to collect it. It's not a security block, it's a legal thing.

(Any date of birth in your profile has no method of being verified either, you could say you were 40 when you were actually 10. Valve has no legal right to access any county database to confirm the details are correct or not)

[MrL0G1C]

ZZZzzzz unsubbing because there is no reason they can't remember what age someone is.

[yumex (2)]

im not american..

also. if your child uses your account, and cheats, whose fault is that, its not steams.. its yours... so your argument is once again invalid. if you have children log out..

also i would like to point out, that unless a child intentionally wnats to look at stuff 18 plus, or accesses a site that is 18 plus, there would be no reason for them to put a DOB older than their real age, IF its the first thing you enter.. Since steam is usable by everyone no one will fake thier DOB on their profile.. you could check, every child on this system and i bet less than 1% of them have fake DOB's

also what informtion are they collecting from minors, its not like it asks for your user details, or preferances, all it does is record that you looked at fps (for example) which even looking at a game that is under 18 will do..

For example..

overwatch isnt 18+
but another game might be, But both are labeled FPS. so both would still record, nothing else. agian another mute argument

also if your child goes to lets say GameSTop and picks up lets say Battlefield case.. Do the shop keepers come along and say (Em, can i see your id< your not old enough to look at that?:)

[Tito Shivan]

ESRB regulations require it to work precisely the way it does:
https://esrbstorage.blob.core.windows.net/esrbcontent/ratings/downloads/ewc_code.pdf

2.2 If the audio-visual content contains material from a Mature-rated or Adults Only-rated game (or one that is anticipated to receive either rating), display an ESRB-compliant age-gate prior to access or purchase.

The other game regulation services (PEGI, MEKU, USK, CERO) work in an almost identical way.

[yumex (2)]

An age gate, can be a simple button to confirm you are 18, not a stupid drop down that takes ages to mess about with

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Originally posted by Krappleby:

An age gate, can be a simple button to confirm you are 18, not a stupid drop down that takes ages to mess about with

There are 2 types. You listed both of them. Also, only deleting Steam's cookies will make you enter the date again. It should stay set and you only have to click the continue button.

[GuRu Asaki]

I thought the Date of Birth thing DOB on Game Pages, were specific to the Developers of the Games, nothing to do with STEAM it's self...

I dunno how Valve can claim DOB for someone elses Game?


Am I wrong for thinking this?


I'm not really sure what the DOB Date Of Birth in the settings has to do with anything...

[B l u e b e r r y P o p t a r t]

Originally posted by Krappleby:

An age gate, can be a simple button to confirm you are 18, not a stupid drop down that takes ages to mess about with

Complaining about it won't change it as the age gate is here to stay (for legal reasons like already said) and "takes for ages" really? It takes less than 2 seconds to put in a 1980's year and you are done....

If you care that much use your browser with add-ons that gets rid of it.

[yumex (2)]

blueberry try puitting in a date like August 27 1954 and do it five times in 10 views.. then do that every day, and see how long it take you to get sick of it.