Papis Papi Mar 8, 2016 @ 8:38am
Steam is stealing my money.
I got a giftcard for my birthday, then i put it into my wallet to use the market, as i wanted to invest in an item that would jump up in price. These ♥♥♥♥♥, after taking my money mind you, ♥♥♥♥ me over with a market restriction. I have to wait to use MY OWN ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ MONEY, WHAT THE ♥♥♥♥!? i asked for a refund, but i am almost sure they wont ♥♥♥♥♥♥ my market restriction, even after they refund my card.
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Tux Mar 8, 2016 @ 8:41am 
you could always just buy your games from the Windows Store...HA!

sorry just had to joke
Papis Papi Mar 8, 2016 @ 8:42am 
Originally posted by Tux:
you could always just buy your games from the Windows Store...HA!

sorry just had to joke
flagged for inappropriate Kappa
Ogami Mar 8, 2016 @ 8:52am 
So, you did not read the market rules and that is somehow STEAM´s fault. Then you start swearig on the forums like some 8 year old. Yeah, nothing to see here. Carry on.
Papis Papi Mar 8, 2016 @ 9:48am 
Originally posted by Ogami:
So, you did not read the market rules and that is somehow STEAM´s fault. Then you start swearig on the forums like some 8 year old. Yeah, nothing to see here. Carry on.
gift cards that are impossible to verify therefore they shouldnt block market transactions.
Last edited by Papis Papi; Mar 8, 2016 @ 9:49am
Satoru Mar 8, 2016 @ 12:26pm 
Note you seem to be confused what 'stealing' means

Your money is not 'stolen' by any stretch of the imagination
cinedine Mar 8, 2016 @ 12:33pm 
How do you think they shall refund a gift card?
Papis Papi Mar 8, 2016 @ 1:29pm 
Originally posted by Satoru:
Note you seem to be confused what 'stealing' means

Your money is not 'stolen' by any stretch of the imagination

if stolen is not an okay word for you then i will use fraud.

"Fraud is defined as an illegal criminal act that consists of the – alleged – purposeful misleading of a victim in a harmful fashion; the motives that may exist within a fraud charge may be facilitated by the intention of gain through deceit." this is (whether or not purposeful) a misleading of the person who added money in the steam wallet. They would not have gotten my 25 dollars if I had known that my market would be banned for ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ 7 days. I would not be mad if they had done something like say "when you purchase any steam money with a gift card/new credit card. (the new credit card part i already knew about) you must verify the funds, or wait 7 days, if you have a gift card then you will have to wait 7 days as its impossible to verify the funds yourself." Something like that would be acceptable.
Papis Papi Mar 8, 2016 @ 1:30pm 
Originally posted by cinedine:
How do you think they shall refund a gift card?
They can refund it in essentially the same way as a credit card. Its a prepaid mastercard so they can refund it pretty easily.
wuddih Mar 8, 2016 @ 1:46pm 
Originally posted by Milo Yiannopoulos:
They would not have gotten my 25 dollars if I had known that my market would be banned for ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ 7 days. I would not be mad if they had done something like say "when you purchase any steam money with a gift card/new credit card. (the new credit card part i already knew about) you must verify the funds, or wait 7 days, if you have a gift card then you will have to wait 7 days as its impossible to verify the funds yourself." Something like that would be acceptable.
you used an unverified payment method and a notice is displayed while doing the purchase of the wallet funds.

Originally posted by Milo Yiannopoulos:
Originally posted by cinedine:
How do you think they shall refund a gift card?
They can refund it in essentially the same way as a credit card. Its a prepaid mastercard so they can refund it pretty easily.
you said it yourself, it is a prepaid credit card, that you did not even bought yourself. it is also marked as a gift card and with that refunding this is in control of the seller. let me tell you that way, even when all the funds were still on the card, which they are not, you could be happy if you get an inhouse giftcard as the refund compensation, you will definately not get any money back.
tmwfte Mar 8, 2016 @ 1:47pm 
Originally posted by Milo Yiannopoulos:
Originally posted by cinedine:
How do you think they shall refund a gift card?
They can refund it in essentially the same way as a credit card. Its a prepaid mastercard so they can refund it pretty easily.
Some pre-paid credit cards do not allow for funds to be added to the card. Pretty ridiculous when it comes to a refund, but they all have different policies. You should check whichever provider yours is from to see whether or not you actually can refund to the card.
Satoru Mar 8, 2016 @ 2:24pm 
Originally posted by Milo Yiannopoulos:

if stolen is not an okay word for you then i will use fraud.

You might want to stop using words you don't understand. Because you seem to not really understand these 'big' words you keep bandying about.

You're entirely free to purchase things on the Steam store

https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=1047-edfm-2932

Market and trading cooldowns are entirely separate things

Again stop using words you don't understand.
Last edited by Satoru; Mar 8, 2016 @ 2:25pm
_ JOKER_ Mar 8, 2016 @ 2:30pm 
whatever
rina Mar 8, 2016 @ 3:01pm 
-You do not understand what is going on.
-You somehow expect a refund.
-You start overreacting and start swearing on the forums.
-You keep using words you don't understand and use them incorrectly.

You are most likely too young or too stupid (or both) to be purchasing anything on Steam alone or without a parent or guardian assisting you.
ezwip Mar 8, 2016 @ 6:35pm 
He has a valid point. The gift card wait is a bit over the top, especially considering you activate it at the counter before you exit the store. I checked his inventory it's entirely plausible that the situation unfolded as he described.
Teksura Mar 8, 2016 @ 7:16pm 
Originally posted by Milo Yiannopoulos:
Originally posted by Satoru:
Note you seem to be confused what 'stealing' means

Your money is not 'stolen' by any stretch of the imagination

if stolen is not an okay word for you then i will use fraud.

Except fraud would only be valid if they illegally misled you. That didn't happen. The rules relating to adding new funds to your Steam wallet are clearly laid out, and as a kicker you agreed to these rules. (That said, odds are you're like most people and didn't read the subscriber agreement before agreeing to it, but still. Not critisizing you on that point or anything, most people are like that but it's still binding even if you lie about having read it.)

And those rules aren't there for fun. They serve a very real purpose. Added funds may or may not be legitimate. They may be added using a stolen credit card, for example. Even a Steam gift card may have been bought with illegally obtained funds. Keep in mind that Steam (TF2 in specific) has already been used to launder money (taken from stolen credit cards).

Fraud would be people adding money using stolen cards. Fraud is not Valve taking steps to make sure that this doesn't happen.

The market hold exists as a period to allow time for the transation to clear through all channels and give time for a victim to issue a chargeback. It is significantly harder for Valve to deal with a chargeback when that money has been circulating through the market, the Store, and other trades.
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