With the Unity merger, can we blacklist/remove all unity based games?

[Raven]

I don't even entertain the slightest notion that steam will refund us for these games, but can there be clear, one button removal of all unity and filter of unity based games? I have a huge library, and it makes me a bit pale to think literally any one of the unity based games can install malware in the future. I also don't suppose steam will or even can offer any kind of protection to its users who get some form of malware that comes from future unity updates?

[Raven]

Postat inițial de davidb11:

That's not even proper English though.
I'm so confused.

Again, show me evidence of Unity merging with illegal companies?

"Evidence" you really are....whatever.

https://investors.unity.com/news/news-details/2022/Unity-Announces-Merger-Agreement-with-ironSource/default.aspx

https://www.yahoo.com/now/unity-announces-merger-agreement-ironsource-104400011.html

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/07/13/unity-stock-down-on-lowered-2022-guidance-merger-with-ironsource.html

https://techcrunch.com/2022/07/13/sources-ironsource-and-unity-are-merging-in-a-big-consolidation-play-for-gaming-and-interactive-content/?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAADhzOhO_veByJ6koOY7a_g8_TY2pNapQXx1qN_wpRzHz7V4dnFJr_DE-MTO5Pux1Nf4IvCiwq6S1cmwfAR-W53zihb_sx_bdf63EPQ28k5ZRm_iXSweSbHJlUtNmpyTed2eup4aQ40ezY1iXURCwRXMKChM0eznrZQ7tHE9lEltT

[Raven]

now can people take time to at least read before shooting off?

[cinedine]

They've been using IronSource to deliver ads on mobile for quite some time. Don't see much changing with it. They're content delivery network, so they get misused. They're fault is for not screening and weeding out the bad actors.

[Aachen]

Postat inițial de Supafly:

Pretty sure has something to do with merger with a company that literally operated like malware. Even MS classed it as Malware. Kinda a big push for ad revenue over other stuff. Some devs are already reassessing their use of Unity now ....

Yeah, the merger is a contentious move—my initial post (as news-ignorant as it may have been) was more a reaction to the hypothetical nature of the malware in question. Reading more information, I do see why they’ve heightened concern.

[Spawn of Totoro]

https://boingboing.net/2022/07/14/game-tool-company-unity-announces-4-4bn-merger-with-former-malware-bundler.html

IronSource doesn't make malware. Yes, they are responsible for InstallCore[en.wikipedia.org] (a fork of the FoxTab installer) and it gained a reputation for malware distribution, though it self wasn't malware. They stopped the program in 2020.

Unity has merged with IronSource for it's current business model: Mobile Marketing.

There really is no reason to drop Unity because of the merger, imho.

And the merger doesn't mean that all version of Unity will suddenly be update either, not does it mean that it will in the future.

[Satoru]

Postat inițial de Raven:

Postat inițial de Satoru:

1) why would you expect a refund because a developer used Unity?

2) Unity is not malware

3) Unity is not malware

4) See #1 #2 #3

1) you clearly didn't hear about the merger

2) YOU REALLY DON'T FOLLOW NEWS

3) You should really read about the unity merger before commenting

4) see 1-3 because you clearly need to be updated on things

Again I follow the news

1) Unity IS NOT MALWARE
2) Unity IS NOT MALWARE
3) UNITY IS NOT MALWARE

Mergers do not magically make game engines malware

UNITY

IS

NOT

MALWARE

IronSource DOES NOT MAKE MALWARE

IronSource has been used as a middleware platform my malware devs, but that's only because its a convenient mobile based middleware platform. That is NOT BECAUSE IRONSOURCE MAKES MALWARE

If you do not understand the context of the merger don't ask for things because you are spewing FUD out because you literally do not even understand what is going on, and what these companies do.

The logical leap from

* Unity purchases a mobile game monetization company
To
* Unity is now malware

Is a literal multiverse dimension gap of logic

This also literally ignores the fact that Unity basically uses IronSource as the base of its entire monetization platform ALREADY. Aka if you were 'oh my god im so scared of malware' well SUPRISE you were already using it.

I'm ambivalent to people who scream bloody murder about things that have literally already existed in the product they're whining about, but read some news with uncritical eyes and then make FUD based points-farming troll topics on things they obviously know nothing about because they hate Unity for no other reason that it exists.

[Crazy Tiger]

Postat inițial de Raven:

Postat inițial de Crazy Tiger:

That doesn't entitle you to a refund in any way.

you can't read. I didn't ask for one, I said that wasn't something that wasn't "entertainable"

is it too much to ask for basic reading comprehension? The first guy can't read, neither can you.

Satoru asked you why you would expect a refund. Your answer implied the merger would be a reason.

Your own comprehension is lacking there, love.

You can remove the games from your account if you like. All you have to do is choose the permanent remove option in the support pages of each game.

[blunus]

Nothing new for mobile gamers who knew about IronSource (they've been using it to deliver ads for sometimes), for users totally unaware of it until today.

Also IronSource already discontinued the malware installer in late 2020, yet people is still blinded by its notorious.

[Prof.Jackie]

Postat inițial de Raven:

...go do like a 5 minute google search. I'm not your mommy, I can't believe how many people are this passive and ignorant and willfully so.

You literally know nothing but comment on it anyway. Its literally all over the financial news market....

Maybe follow your own advice before going full panic mode because someone used scary buzzwords in their news article.

So Unity merged with ironSource.
In the past ironSource developed and published installCore.
installCore was classified as malware by some antimalware companies and even banned by MS.
So far so "good"

Now the part everyone convenently leaves out to create more buzz:

In 2020 installCore was dicontinued by ironSource and isn't used anymore.
Instead ironSouce acquired 3 studios and started developing mobile games, which are rather successful, atleast they claim to have 3 games in the mobile games top 10.
They also acquired another company and specialised in distribution of mobile ads.
So maybe it's time to check your phone for all the stuff linked to ironSource before goiung full panic about Unity.

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On a side note, just after the mergerwith a company specialized in monetization the CEO of Unity Technology, former CEO of EA btw, stated in an interview that developer should fokus more on microtransactions and those who don't are "♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ idiots"
Coincidence? I think NOT!)

https://nordic.ign.com/news/58101/former-ea-ceo-devs-who-dont-focus-on-microtransactions-are-the-biggest-f-idiots

[m662]

IronSource is being bought by Unity for 4.4 Billion dollars as investment into ad propagation techniques and analytics
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-07-13/unity-agrees-to-combine-with-ironsource-in-4-4-billion-deal

IronSource has been involved with Adware injected software since 2014 that much is true.
https://www.benedelman.org/news-021815/

That how ever does not mean IronSource only creates software with adware in fact you probably been using software that has had analytical technology from IronSource injected because a lot of software companies use parts of there technology talking major mobile software publishers

https://venturebeat.com/2018/03/07/ironsource-gives-mobile-advertisers-a-choice-between-programmatic-and-waterfall-ads/#:~:text=Big%20clients%20include%20Big%20Fish,with%20mobile%20monetization%20firm%20Supersonic.

And not only mobile market but also normal PC market or what do you think of your favorite shops ever shopped at Ebay? Congrats your data has been handled with Ironsource analytics
https://www.featuredcustomers.com/vendor/ironsource/customers


This is not going to mean Unity will have adware what it does mean however it now has to deal with reputation problems from said history of companies.
Stockholders are not thrilled stock had dropped with 13% however that is most likely not because of the reputation issues but because Unity has to convince stockholders the worth of this 4.4 billion investment.

https://investorplace.com/2022/07/unity-u-stock-drops-on-4-4-billion-ironsource-acquisition-news/

So congratulations to the media for finding another absolutely pointless article to rile up the masses because these type of companies are all around us and you never even blink about it because no one reads the terms and conditions privacy policy of services sites they use.

[fluxtorrent]

I mean unity ALREADY had redshell, so im not sure what change the OP really expects here, its not like unity didn't already harvest data

[wuddih]

why would you wanna nuke 40% of the Steam store?
just because the company that made the engine did something?

this does not have any affect on any already released unity game and everything that might change is optional and choice of the developer that use the engine for their game.

[The End]

Postat inițial de davidb11:

No company on the planet would ever merge with a malware company.

Unity just did "IronSource", you should try google it.
IronSource is the maker of a malware installer/wrapper.

[Supafly]

Postat inițial de Aachen:

Postat inițial de Supafly:

Pretty sure has something to do with merger with a company that literally operated like malware. Even MS classed it as Malware. Kinda a big push for ad revenue over other stuff. Some devs are already reassessing their use of Unity now ....

Yeah, the merger is a contentious move—my initial post (as news-ignorant as it may have been) was more a reaction to the hypothetical nature of the malware in question. Reading more information, I do see why they’ve heightened concern.

Didn't see it till earlier today myself. They may have improved since there Malware behaviour but doesn't mean everyone will blindly trust them. Hell Zucker and FB are constantly having Privacy issue and Zucker does the "we should have done better, we could have done better, I'm sorry' and that 'seems' to some like they improve until the next time something breaks.

[phosTR]

Damn, thanks for telling me about this.