A Steam version of Office ?

[Gallifrey - CSSC Gaming Founder]

Since Microsoft is now milking its customers by making them rent its software at a price above what most software is sold has Valve considered going into competition ?

Microsoft after the farago that was GFWL are now sticking their dirty fingers into gaming again and cutting Steam out of the loop. Valve don't owe Microsoft anything and the world would appreciate a decent office system they only have to buy once.

And if Microsoft play dirty (they often do) and sabotage Windows to reduce the playability of Steam games - not only would that bring down the international regulators (and it won't be the first time) but Steam has about twenty five million users a day. Let's see how Microsoft would cope with twenty five million complaints a day.

S.x.

P.S. And of course coupled with the Steam OS such a move could be used to make Valve the dominant world power in the provision of PC software. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha......


I have to stop watching Dr Evil compilations on YouTube.

[Black Blade]

Free office:
https://www.openoffice.org

Enjoy

You do know there more companys out there but Valve ya?

Anyhow i don't think office has much to do with games

[Gallifrey - CSSC Gaming Founder]

Originally posted by Black Blade:

Free office:
https://www.openoffice.org

Enjoy

You do know there more companys out there but Valve ya? :wrynhappy:

Anyhow i don't think office has much to do with games

I'd like some form of corporate support for office functions. I just think that Microsoft is abusing a dominant market position. They'd have never got away with Office 365 if there was a competitor. Valve do a number of things that aren't games.

S.x.

[Black Blade]

Originally posted by gallifrey:

I'd like some form of corporate support for office functions. I just think that Microsoft is abusing a dominant market position. They'd have never got away with Office 365 if there was a competitor. Valve do a number of things that aren't games.

S.x.

Like what?

Any how offive is a huge thing, i really cant see Valve starting to do that

Also went on Micrsoft site and i am completely lost

Prices

	Office 365 Home	Office 365 Pro	Office home & Student
Price	100$ per a year	70$ per a year	149$ one time
Whats in the pack	Word, Excel, Powerpoint, Outlook, OneNote, Publisher, Access Also 1TB OneDrive, calls world wide on skype For 5 PCs (/users)	Word, Excel, Powerpoint, Outlook, OneNote, Publisher, Access Also 1TB OneDrive, calls world wide on skype For one PC	Word, Excel, PowetPoint, OneNote

Whats so bad abut the prices any how?

[tin]

Originally posted by Black Blade:

Free office:
https://www.openoffice.org

Better option since OO.o is kind of deadish (it's still twitching, but I don't like it's chances):
https://www.libreoffice.org/

And I agree with the OP. Valve is already selling non-game tools. Why not throw an office package up there. If they wanted, they could rebadge OO/LO and even charge money for it.

I'd pay a few dollars just for the Steam always-updated feature :)
And kids could use "Steam has Office" as a bargaining tool when it comes to convincing parents to let them buy stuff on Steam.

Edit: Regarding O365 pricing - It's pretty bad when so many competing products are $0.

[ KARR™]

Originally posted by Black Blade:

Whats so bad abut the prices any how?

The fact i can currently buy a copy for $20 and it lasts 5-6 years.... rather than 70 PER year?

[Zekiran]

Buy an older copy of Word or Office. They do exactly the same things, often in a better format, and you'd pay once, period, ever, and would be able to install it wherever. I'm using office 2003, with word 2003 and several even older programs thrown in, because there aren't any current versions.

I don't know that I'd want Steam to break into this area, but... eh, I woudln't turn it down either.

[Gallifrey - CSSC Gaming Founder]

Originally posted by Zekiran:

Buy an older copy of Word or Office. They do exactly the same things, often in a better format, and you'd pay once, period, ever, and would be able to install it wherever. I'm using office 2003, with word 2003 and several even older programs thrown in, because there aren't any current versions.

I don't know that I'd want Steam to break into this area, but... eh, I woudln't turn it down either.

The problem is that the newer versions of Windows won't accept the older versions of Office.

S.x.

[HLCinSC]

Originally posted by gallifrey:

Originally posted by Zekiran:

Buy an older copy of Word or Office. They do exactly the same things, often in a better format, and you'd pay once, period, ever, and would be able to install it wherever. I'm using office 2003, with word 2003 and several even older programs thrown in, because there aren't any current versions.

I don't know that I'd want Steam to break into this area, but... eh, I woudln't turn it down either.

The problem is that the newer versions of Windows won't accept the older versions of Office.

S.x.

I have the Ultimate MS Office bundle 2007 on my win 10 device. I can't remember where now but I saw the home and student version on a father's day sale for $50.

[wuddih]

Originally posted by CharlestONE:

Originally posted by gallifrey:

The problem is that the newer versions of Windows won't accept the older versions of Office.

S.x.

I have the Ultimate MS Office bundle 2007 on my win 10 device. I can't remember where now but I saw the home and student version on a father's day sale for $50.

dunno where OP gets his knowledge from, even microsofts official page about this tells otherwise.
https://support.office.com/en-us/article/Which-versions-of-Office-work-with-Windows-10-0fc85c97-da69-466e-b2b4-54f7d7275705

Office 2007 (Version 12) is no longer part of mainstream support and hasn't been tested on Windows 10. However, Office 2007 will install and run on Windows 10. Versions of Office prior to Office 2007 are no longer supported and may not work on Windows 10.

nowhere said it will not work.

office 97, works and not much stuff is broken. 2003 should still receive updates over windows updates.

[Start_Running]

Open office. Libra Office already exist and they work just fine.

[Black Blade]

Originally posted by tin:

Better option since OO.o is kind of deadish (it's still twitching, but I don't like it's chances):
https://www.libreoffice.org/

And I agree with the OP. Valve is already selling non-game tools. Why not throw an office package up there. If they wanted, they could rebadge OO/LO and even charge money for it.

I'd pay a few dollars just for the Steam always-updated feature :)
And kids could use "Steam has Office" as a bargaining tool when it comes to convincing parents to let them buy stuff on Steam.

Edit: Regarding O365 pricing - It's pretty bad when so many competing products are $0.

Well the things is Valve dose not sell that software, its the publisher/dev that dose, Steam is only the platform they do it on, and i am sure Valve will be more then glad to host the like of Open Office, or Libra Office, if any of them ask to do it

Originally posted by KARR™:

The fact i can currently buy a copy for $20 and it lasts 5-6 years.... rather than 70 PER year?

Well sure, but that is like saying that its odd that Call of Duty (what ever is the new one) needs to cost the same as Call of Duty 1, even more as you talk abut physical copy or a second hand type one, the original is not sold from Microsoft no more
And on that as said you do have Home & Student that has what i think most houses at least will need, and that is 149$ one time payment (and i guess you can keep it from there on)
Just like it was back in the past:

Another change to the lineup is that Microsoft Office Home and Student 2007, an updated release of Microsoft Office Student and Teacher Edition 2003, which had been restricted to educational buyers, will be available for home users for $149. It includes 2007 versions of Excel, PowerPoint, Word and OneNote.

Souce: http://www.computerworld.com/article/2561601/operating-systems/microsoft-lists-pricing-for-2007-microsoft-office.html

[cinedine]

You can still buy a one-time license for Office. It has always been pricey. My 2003 copy was around EUR 120 IIRC. Student version!

And it's bloody well worth it if you use Excel and PowerPoint en large, because those two are still top tier and unbeaten in functionality. LibreOffic/OOo Calc doesn't hold a candle to Excel in professional environments.

For common household use you don't need MS Office.

[Gallifrey - CSSC Gaming Founder]

Originally posted by cinedine:

You can still buy a one-time license for Office. It has always been pricey. My 2003 copy was around EUR 120 IIRC. Student version!

And it's bloody well worth it if you use Excel and PowerPoint en large, because those two are still top tier and unbeaten in functionality. LibreOffic/OOo Calc doesn't hold a candle to Excel in professional environments.

For common household use you don't need MS Office.

Except to read Microsoft documents.

S.x.

[Winged One]

Originally posted by gallifrey:

Originally posted by Zekiran:

Buy an older copy of Word or Office. They do exactly the same things, often in a better format, and you'd pay once, period, ever, and would be able to install it wherever. I'm using office 2003, with word 2003 and several even older programs thrown in, because there aren't any current versions.

I don't know that I'd want Steam to break into this area, but... eh, I woudln't turn it down either.

The problem is that the newer versions of Windows won't accept the older versions of Office.

S.x.

I have been able to configure Office 2003 to run on one of my Windows 10 desktops (granted, did take awhile before I could get it working properly).. meanwhile my Laptop with Windows 10 is currently running Office 2007 without issues right out of the box..

Originally posted by gallifrey:

Since Microsoft is now milking its customers by making them rent its software at a price above what most software is sold has Valve considered going into competition ?

Office 365 has its advantages, but you can still buy a non-subscription copy of Office that works just fine (although it does require a Microsoft account.. stupid microsoft accounts).. for around the same price its always cost actually

[cinedine]

Originally posted by gallifrey:

Originally posted by cinedine:

For common household use you don't need MS Office.

Except to read Microsoft documents.

LibreOffice and OOo open MS Office documents perfectly fine. Unless there is heavy use of macros and inert functions or an Excel formular hits the LO char limit, there is no problem.

Not to mention that the Mobile branch is free and performs well as a viewer/reader.

You don't seem to be terrible knowledgeable on that front.