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Is valve really "making money instead of games"?
I heard that so many times. But when I checked valve's games there is just about 4 year gap between Dota 2 and Aritifact( I know, but we haven't even got to play the game yet) announcment, which is not really damn long(or is it?), and before Dota 2 valve were releasing games in about 1-3 years. So why are people saying that valve is not making games anymore?
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The Alcander の投稿を引用:
At this point, it seems valve is just making money and updating their latest games, supposedly they are making “3 full VR titles" but I highly doubt they are doing it and if so they are wasting money because VR is garbage.
Did you try VR? (And I mean real VR not the phone once that are not that are a really lower end of the VR level)

Beside that there also working on the Artifact game that all ready has a store page
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The Alcander の投稿を引用:
At this point, it seems valve is just making money and updating their latest games, supposedly they are making “3 full VR titles" but I highly doubt they are doing it and if so they are wasting money because VR is garbage.
Did you try VR? (And I mean real VR not the phone once that are not that are a really lower end of the VR level)

Beside that there also working on the Artifact game that all ready has a store page

I tried it once and I liked it at first but it's not worth the heavy investment, besides there are not even a lot of good games for it, just copy and paste gallery shooters and short demos.

A few good VR games is not going to convince me period, VR is probably going to die off like xbox's connect for example or 3D TV's.
最近の変更はThe Alcanderが行いました; 2018年4月24日 12時17分
Why doesn't valve make any more games?
Valve makes a ton of money from steam. Not only from the games they sell but the small cuts they receive off of each market transaction. As far as I know, the last game valve made(that was a triple A title and not some silly f2p game) was L4D2. Everything single game valve has had some part in has been nothing but great. From Dota to CSGO to L4d2 and Half-life...its quite clear valve knows what they're are doing.

What I don't understand is why the sudden halt in making games? I'm sure that the basic reason is that valve doesn't actually NEED to make anymore games seeing as they can definitely support themselves via Steam, but to me it just feels like they are slacking. To me, making games is starting to turn away from ''lets make something fun that people will actually enjoy playing'' to ''lets figure out a way to publish a half finished game for a quick profit.'' While Valve can never worry about having to make any games anytime soon, I just don't understand why they would turn direction from making timeless classics to making as much money as possible. It doesn't make sense to me and its quite disheartening to think about the future of what Valve/Steam will turn itself into.

Opinions or thoughts?
Artifact 2018
In the Valley of Gods 2019

announced and to be released.
Raven の投稿を引用:
What I don't understand is why the sudden halt in making games?
They are currently making 4 games and have just acquired a new development studio who are producing a game as we speak.
Raven の投稿を引用:
Valve makes a ton of money from steam. Not only from the games they sell but the small cuts they receive off of each market transaction.

Valve does not get anything from the market transactions.
Those (valve) fees are only there to lower the amount of Walletmoney on steam....as Valve already has the money before you even buy anything on the market
Levi 2018年5月4日 14時02分 
Upcoming...

https://store.steampowered.com/app/583950/Artifact/

Artifact is a digital card game coming from the makers of Dota®2 and Steam®. A collaboration of legendary card game designer Richard Garfield and computer game and technology maker Valve (Dota 2, Steam), Artifact is designed to give Trading Card Game (TCG) enthusiasts the deepest gameplay and highest fidelity experience ever in a fantasy card game.

It features more than 280 cards in the shipping set, including 44 heroes. Targeted for release on Steam in late 2018, players will be able to buy and sell cards on the Steam Community Marketplace. Artifact will also be supported as a service through expansions, competitive events, and new features.

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Raven の投稿を引用:
What I don't understand is why the sudden halt in making games?

Not true.

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-02-10-valve-is-making-three-fully-fledged-vr-games


Raven の投稿を引用:
Opinions or thoughts?


Ok..so... Valve have been all in on VR for a while. For some years they've been refining the tech, creating partnerships with other big tech firms, building a foundation on which to start the next big frontier of gaming and are cementing their place as a leader in the VR in dustry...or not. Depends where you stand.

Point is, Valve is shifting focus. Over 1/3 of the company is working on VR endevours and has been for a while with the rest doing business as normal (hence the slow down in title releases).

Now, I know VR is a point of controversy with some people on Steam. Many think it's to expensive or too gimmicky and they can have those opinions. This isnt about what you are going to game with in the future, it;s about what Valve thinks is the future of gaming. All the big names in Silicon Valley are producing more VR content each day, headsets are getting refined and the tech is getting cheaper. Last year alone saw over 8 million headsets between mobile, PSVR, Oculus and Vive sell. This year that number is expected to triple and even right now, as I type this a VR only game (Beat Saber) sits atop the Steam charts.

If Valve dont go all in on VR then Facebook dominates VR via Oculus as Microsoft came to the party too late and is more focused on AR anyway but as a company Steam has now formed the SteamVR partnership and has about 700 companies involved (inclusing the likes of Google and Microsoft). As you can imagine, that pulls a lot of Valves development workforce (who where always pretty much left to create whatever they wanted anyway) into VR space projects which (unless you are a VR gamer and follow the news) you wont hear about.


Now..before anyone here tried to argue that its a stupid move by Valve, I want you to consider 2 big things. Firstly, as a privately owned firm, Valve is uniquely in the position to experiement with consumer VR because they have no share holders to answer to. They can piss as much R+ D cost up the wall and not worry about it till Gabe says pull the plug (and he wont any time soon). Secondly, Valve likes to gamble on gaming. Gabe left a well paying job at Microsoft in the 90s because he was fully convinced that video games were the future of entertainment. This was a time before Microsoft took it seriously as a massive money maker and a time when games where still considered to be more for kids. Now its one of the biggest industries in the world. Secondly, Steam itself was not exactly considered "the future" when it first released either. Most people disliked the concept of a digital store front when it first started out yet here we are Steam being the top one. Of course it could go the way of Steam Machines but that seems unlikely.

So..yes..Valve are very busy making games still. They kust might not be games you'll want to play anytime soon.




Levi 2018年5月4日 15時19分 
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cSg|mc-Hotsauce の投稿を引用:
We have a similar thread already...

https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/0/1486613649681282151/

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We ?

S.x.

We = the community.

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The Alcander の投稿を引用:

I tried it once and I liked it at first but it's not worth the heavy investment, besides there are not even a lot of good games for it, just copy and paste gallery shooters and short demos.

You tried it "once" but somehow "know" there are not a lot of "good games"? Thats a very short sighted view for a relatively new consumer technology. I'm not going to argue it's cheap to buy in (not yet anyway) but there's litterally 2591 VR compatible titles on Steam alone which includeds AAA games with more being added on a daily basis now...and thats not mentioning the ridiculous amounts of non game based VR content and app support not on Steam.


I dont expect you to change your mind but if it was a dead or dying format (it's not) why is a VR only game top of the Steam charts right now, why have Google just added VR support to Chrome and why has Microsoft implimented VR support into Windows 10?

VR isnt going anywhere.



最近の変更はThe Maddogが行いました; 2018年5月4日 18時41分
cSg|mc-Hotsauce の投稿を引用:
We have a similar thread already...

https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/0/1486613649681282151/

:qr:

Erm, you do realise that this link you've provided leads directly back to this very thread? :lol::comic:

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最近の変更はLamontが行いました; 2018年5月4日 18時34分
Lamont の投稿を引用:
cSg|mc-Hotsauce の投稿を引用:
We have a similar thread already...

https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/0/1486613649681282151/

:qr:

Erm, you do realise that this link you've provided leads directly back to this very thread? :lol::comic:

:accat:

You realize that this post was from another thread that gotmerged into this one?
cSg|mc-Hotsauce の投稿を引用:
Lamont の投稿を引用:

Erm, you do realise that this link you've provided leads directly back to this very thread? :lol::comic:

:accat:

The point it merged into this one...

https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/0/1486613649681282151/?ctp=2#c1696046342860739610

:qr:

Wonderful, back to the OP then.

:accat:
Valve has allways been making money. Back then the money was in game making. Gaben can smell a five dollar bill from two miles away, some say.
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