"The Boot" doesn't work with Orbs

[Wip3ou7]

The relic, "The Boot" (Every time you would deal 4 or less unblocked damage, increase it to 5) doesn't work with orbs. The lightning orbs do 3 damage at the end of your turn and that damage should be increased to 5 but is not. Haven't tested it with other orbs.

[Jimmy Hunter]

"Whenever you would deal 4 or less unblocked Attack damage, increase it to 5"

That should clear up the confusion.

[Wip3ou7]

Oh, fudge. So does this not work with poisons either?

[Dusk_Army]

Originally posted by Wip3ou7:

Oh, fudge. So does this not work with poisons either?

Nope, just attack cards. Still, don't underestimate the Boot; it's helpful against The Nemesis in Act 3, among other things.

[Wip3ou7]

Aw damn if this worked with orbs and thorns it would be really nice lol

[Songbird]

Originally posted by Dusk_Army:

Originally posted by Wip3ou7:

Oh, fudge. So does this not work with poisons either?

Nope, just attack cards. Still, don't underestimate the Boot; it's helpful against The Nemesis in Act 3, among other things.

You can just track the damage it does across a run and casually observe that it generally averages like one damage a fight tops. Probably the worst relic in the game other than bottled flame (when you don't have an attack that benefits from being played on turn 1) or maybe the Toolbox, since those are often actively worse than not having them.

[Dusk_Army]

Originally posted by Songbird:

Originally posted by Dusk_Army:

Nope, just attack cards. Still, don't underestimate the Boot; it's helpful against The Nemesis in Act 3, among other things.

You can just track the damage it does across a run and casually observe that it generally averages like one damage a fight tops. Probably the worst relic in the game other than bottled flame (when you don't have an attack that benefits from being played on turn 1) or maybe the Toolbox, since those are often actively worse than not having them.

There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics.

[Killblixx]

Originally posted by Wip3ou7:

Aw damn if this worked with orbs and thorns it would be really nice lol

but also orbs do not trigger thorns on oppenents, see ? ^^

[Dopefisher]

need beer, please respond

[Songbird]

Originally posted by Dusk_Army:

Originally posted by Songbird:

You can just track the damage it does across a run and casually observe that it generally averages like one damage a fight tops. Probably the worst relic in the game other than bottled flame (when you don't have an attack that benefits from being played on turn 1) or maybe the Toolbox, since those are often actively worse than not having them.

There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics.

Install a relic tracker and try it out. I admit I didn't think of Tiny Chest for the "definitely worse" list, but it pretty much doesn't do anything at all. Unless you absolutely spam it against nemesis, you're pretty unlikely to see it do more than 30 damage or so across an entire run. The best case scenario for it that's practical is to get both Boot and Sword Boomerang/Pummel/some shiv card/Go for the Eyes early in which case it'll be a discount Vajra for act 1 and maybe average closer to 1 damage a turn than per fight (compared to say, Hourglass doing 3-12 damage every turn).

[Dusk_Army]

Originally posted by Songbird:

Originally posted by Dusk_Army:

There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics.

Install a relic tracker and try it out. I admit I didn't think of Tiny Chest for the "definitely worse" list, but it pretty much doesn't do anything at all. Unless you absolutely spam it against nemesis, you're pretty unlikely to see it do more than 30 damage or so across an entire run. The best case scenario for it that's practical is to get both Boot and Sword Boomerang/Pummel/some shiv card/Go for the Eyes early in which case it'll be a discount Vajra for act 1 and maybe average closer to 1 damage a turn than per fight (compared to say, Hourglass doing 3-12 damage every turn).

And that all has nothing to do with what I said. The point is that averages are meaningless for something that's supposed to help you in edge cases. Of course it's not going to be amazing all the time; but when it works, it works.