Insurgency: Sandstorm

Insurgency: Sandstorm

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Any thoughts on adding black clothes?
The titles pretty much says all.

I haven't seen black clothes on any side since release. Is it because people might reenact ISIS or juts not cool enough? I'd like to know.

Oh, and non related question. In CTE mk18 still had all lasers on top but upon release an-peq has been moved to side and it looks less cooler than it did. I am quite confused since back in CTE I had no problem with it.
Dernière modification de Cryomancer; 18 juin 2020 à 12h30
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James Ryan (banni(e)) 18 juin 2020 à 12h55 
Dev said they dont want to direct content to sensitive topics (like ISIS), so yes...
Insurgents have a fair collection of black tracksuits/the likes for tops.
As for pants, there's jeans, tracksuit pants, and the new DLC cargo pants. I'd imagine there is more to come in the future, so don't worry 'bout it.

For security, the only reason it hasn't happened is because the devs believe that it would be hard to tell who is who from a side vs side perspective. I can agree, but only in the terms of PvP and maybe hardcore.

I think security deserve some black clothes, atleast for coop, but I wouldn't count on it.
James Ryan (banni(e)) 18 juin 2020 à 13h33 
"that it would be hard to tell who is who from a side vs side perspective"

Thats the excuse posted from devs all time...the real reason is the sensitive topic...(ISIS styled beards and layout would make it just easier to indicate.). Also, this game is the last one to not beeing able to see enemy/mate. It has good indicators allready.
Dernière modification de James Ryan; 18 juin 2020 à 14h18
I really dont care about depicting ISIS, but from a gameplay perspective this game already has enough of a problem of people hiding away in corners, making them super hard to see with black camo is a terrible idea.
my current insurgent cosmetics are:
black skull mask
black glasses
black leather top
black leather gloves
black cargo pants
black boots

there's plenty of black clothing including track suits, masks, pants, shoes, gloves, etc.

as far as imitating ISIS, the EDRL camo on security forces is what real world ISIS uses as their uniform. ISIS would also be the equivalent of "security" forces in sandstorm because they are the military force of the local islamic governments.

and the insurgents look like old school al qaeda/insurgents in the middle east, which would be fighting the islamic government.
insurgency however is a fictional conflict, so technically none of this matters.

the reason not to have black clothing on security forces is that it causes issues with target recognition, which is a gameplay decision. the uniforms are distinct so you know who you're shooting at.
James Ryan (banni(e)) 18 juin 2020 à 14h19 
Coffee  a écrit :
I really dont care about depicting ISIS, but from a gameplay perspective this game already has enough of a problem of people hiding away in corners, making them super hard to see with black camo is a terrible idea.

I have no problem with devs developing a unicorm lightning that show you ever enemy 4 free to be honest.

However I dont share your view about enemies not viewable in this game and beeing "one" with shadow...also, black clothes are available allready, but wrong clothes (black sport pants is not what ISIS was wearing all the time).
Dernière modification de James Ryan; 18 juin 2020 à 14h21
Security Forces should have tactical black clothing.
As far as I'm aware black is a rarely seen camo in reality anyway because it's actually a TERRIBLE choice as a camo in most circumstances. A regular olive uniform soldier is always going to be harder to see in the night than one wearing literal black because black contrasts against the environment more than one might think in low light level conditions.

Instead of looking like you are a matching part of the scenery as olive/tan etc will, black will make you further stand out as a humanoid shaped shadow against your background that's easier to see. Even grey is better.
FoxEatingWolf a écrit :
As far as I'm aware black is a rarely seen camo in reality anyway because it's actually a TERRIBLE choice as a camo in most circumstances. A regular olive uniform soldier is always going to be harder to see in the night than one wearing literal black because black contrasts against the environment more than one might think in low light level conditions.

Instead of looking like you are a matching part of the scenery as olive/tan etc will, black will make you further stand out as a humanoid shaped shadow against your background that's easier to see. Even grey is better.

They're mainly for imtimidation (Like those worn by SWAT / Spec Ops), I reckon.
Dernière modification de AgentHotel; 18 juin 2020 à 22h11
NPC 18 juin 2020 à 22h42 
frost mantis a écrit :
The titles pretty much says all.

I haven't seen black clothes on any side since release. Is it because people might reenact ISIS or juts not cool enough? I'd like to know.

Oh, and non related question. In CTE mk18 still had all lasers on top but upon release an-peq has been moved to side and it looks less cooler than it did. I am quite confused since back in CTE I had no problem with it.
ive been saying add black clothes for security for ages. And ACU cammo
They could've given us black multicam for night maps but instead they added crappy antique guns and the honey badger which got made redundant when Sig released the MCX. But it's all good, as a breacher I can use my grease gun instead of my nice reliable MK18.
Insurgents have black tracksuit, but no black t-shirt? I always thought that was odd.
Security can have black shell jacket like BEAR wears in EFT, but I am wanting too much then, am I?
Dernière modification de Cryomancer; 18 juin 2020 à 23h16
ÚwÚ a écrit :
ive been saying add black clothes for security for ages. And ACU cammo

Then POLYPAT (In-game version of OCP ACU / MultiCam) is good to go (I'm using it with "Slim Fit" & "Combat Pants" which are based on Crye ACS & ACP respectively), considering it only costs 500 credits & full POLYPAT camo setup (With both uniform & gears) only cost 2000 credits.

frost mantis a écrit :
Insurgents have black tracksuit, but no black t-shirt? I always thought that was odd.
Security can have black shell jacket like BEAR wears in EFT, but I am wanting too much then, am I?

I'm pretty much running maximum Slav setup with classic black/white Adidas tracksuits & sneakers, complete with black leather gloves & one hole balaclava for LULs & intimidation.
Dernière modification de AgentHotel; 19 juin 2020 à 0h21
It's not about ISIS. There have been black clothes in the game, but they were removed for "visibility".
James Ryan (banni(e)) 19 juin 2020 à 4h46 
staryoshi06 a écrit :
It's not about ISIS. There have been black clothes in the game, but they were removed for "visibility".

Makes no sense. There are black clothes ingame allready (used by Idk 70% of ins).

Would be nice to have just other clothes, not sport only for immersion reasons.
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