Insurgency: Sandstorm

Insurgency: Sandstorm

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Cryomancer Jun 18, 2020 @ 12:28pm
Any thoughts on adding black clothes?
The titles pretty much says all.

I haven't seen black clothes on any side since release. Is it because people might reenact ISIS or juts not cool enough? I'd like to know.

Oh, and non related question. In CTE mk18 still had all lasers on top but upon release an-peq has been moved to side and it looks less cooler than it did. I am quite confused since back in CTE I had no problem with it.
Last edited by Cryomancer; Jun 18, 2020 @ 12:30pm
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James Ryan (Banned) Jun 18, 2020 @ 12:55pm 
Dev said they dont want to direct content to sensitive topics (like ISIS), so yes...
graves Jun 18, 2020 @ 12:57pm 
Insurgents have a fair collection of black tracksuits/the likes for tops.
As for pants, there's jeans, tracksuit pants, and the new DLC cargo pants. I'd imagine there is more to come in the future, so don't worry 'bout it.

For security, the only reason it hasn't happened is because the devs believe that it would be hard to tell who is who from a side vs side perspective. I can agree, but only in the terms of PvP and maybe hardcore.

I think security deserve some black clothes, atleast for coop, but I wouldn't count on it.
James Ryan (Banned) Jun 18, 2020 @ 1:33pm 
"that it would be hard to tell who is who from a side vs side perspective"

Thats the excuse posted from devs all time...the real reason is the sensitive topic...(ISIS styled beards and layout would make it just easier to indicate.). Also, this game is the last one to not beeing able to see enemy/mate. It has good indicators allready.
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PeepeePounder Jun 18, 2020 @ 1:34pm 
I really dont care about depicting ISIS, but from a gameplay perspective this game already has enough of a problem of people hiding away in corners, making them super hard to see with black camo is a terrible idea.
my current insurgent cosmetics are:
black skull mask
black glasses
black leather top
black leather gloves
black cargo pants
black boots

there's plenty of black clothing including track suits, masks, pants, shoes, gloves, etc.

as far as imitating ISIS, the EDRL camo on security forces is what real world ISIS uses as their uniform. ISIS would also be the equivalent of "security" forces in sandstorm because they are the military force of the local islamic governments.

and the insurgents look like old school al qaeda/insurgents in the middle east, which would be fighting the islamic government.
insurgency however is a fictional conflict, so technically none of this matters.

the reason not to have black clothing on security forces is that it causes issues with target recognition, which is a gameplay decision. the uniforms are distinct so you know who you're shooting at.
James Ryan (Banned) Jun 18, 2020 @ 2:19pm 
Originally posted by Coffee :
I really dont care about depicting ISIS, but from a gameplay perspective this game already has enough of a problem of people hiding away in corners, making them super hard to see with black camo is a terrible idea.

I have no problem with devs developing a unicorm lightning that show you ever enemy 4 free to be honest.

However I dont share your view about enemies not viewable in this game and beeing "one" with shadow...also, black clothes are available allready, but wrong clothes (black sport pants is not what ISIS was wearing all the time).
Last edited by James Ryan; Jun 18, 2020 @ 2:21pm
Pumpernickel Jun 18, 2020 @ 6:53pm 
Security Forces should have tactical black clothing.
Silver Foxfolk Jun 18, 2020 @ 10:08pm 
As far as I'm aware black is a rarely seen camo in reality anyway because it's actually a TERRIBLE choice as a camo in most circumstances. A regular olive uniform soldier is always going to be harder to see in the night than one wearing literal black because black contrasts against the environment more than one might think in low light level conditions.

Instead of looking like you are a matching part of the scenery as olive/tan etc will, black will make you further stand out as a humanoid shaped shadow against your background that's easier to see. Even grey is better.
AgentHotel Jun 18, 2020 @ 10:11pm 
Originally posted by FoxEatingWolf:
As far as I'm aware black is a rarely seen camo in reality anyway because it's actually a TERRIBLE choice as a camo in most circumstances. A regular olive uniform soldier is always going to be harder to see in the night than one wearing literal black because black contrasts against the environment more than one might think in low light level conditions.

Instead of looking like you are a matching part of the scenery as olive/tan etc will, black will make you further stand out as a humanoid shaped shadow against your background that's easier to see. Even grey is better.

They're mainly for imtimidation (Like those worn by SWAT / Spec Ops), I reckon.
Last edited by AgentHotel; Jun 18, 2020 @ 10:11pm
NPC Jun 18, 2020 @ 10:42pm 
Originally posted by frost mantis:
The titles pretty much says all.

I haven't seen black clothes on any side since release. Is it because people might reenact ISIS or juts not cool enough? I'd like to know.

Oh, and non related question. In CTE mk18 still had all lasers on top but upon release an-peq has been moved to side and it looks less cooler than it did. I am quite confused since back in CTE I had no problem with it.
ive been saying add black clothes for security for ages. And ACU cammo
Bravo13 Jun 18, 2020 @ 11:15pm 
They could've given us black multicam for night maps but instead they added crappy antique guns and the honey badger which got made redundant when Sig released the MCX. But it's all good, as a breacher I can use my grease gun instead of my nice reliable MK18.
Cryomancer Jun 18, 2020 @ 11:15pm 
Insurgents have black tracksuit, but no black t-shirt? I always thought that was odd.
Security can have black shell jacket like BEAR wears in EFT, but I am wanting too much then, am I?
Last edited by Cryomancer; Jun 18, 2020 @ 11:16pm
AgentHotel Jun 19, 2020 @ 12:21am 
Originally posted by ÚwÚ:
ive been saying add black clothes for security for ages. And ACU cammo

Then POLYPAT (In-game version of OCP ACU / MultiCam) is good to go (I'm using it with "Slim Fit" & "Combat Pants" which are based on Crye ACS & ACP respectively), considering it only costs 500 credits & full POLYPAT camo setup (With both uniform & gears) only cost 2000 credits.

Originally posted by frost mantis:
Insurgents have black tracksuit, but no black t-shirt? I always thought that was odd.
Security can have black shell jacket like BEAR wears in EFT, but I am wanting too much then, am I?

I'm pretty much running maximum Slav setup with classic black/white Adidas tracksuits & sneakers, complete with black leather gloves & one hole balaclava for LULs & intimidation.
Last edited by AgentHotel; Jun 19, 2020 @ 12:21am
staryoshi06 Jun 19, 2020 @ 12:32am 
It's not about ISIS. There have been black clothes in the game, but they were removed for "visibility".
James Ryan (Banned) Jun 19, 2020 @ 4:46am 
Originally posted by staryoshi06:
It's not about ISIS. There have been black clothes in the game, but they were removed for "visibility".

Makes no sense. There are black clothes ingame allready (used by Idk 70% of ins).

Would be nice to have just other clothes, not sport only for immersion reasons.
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