Co-op gameplay/bots still garbage, ridiculous and unfulfilling

[PACE]

I haven''t played this game in well over 6 months and before that another several months. I was a hardcore Insurgency 1 player and a die hard player and advocate for this game. Years later, still the bots and gameplay are ridiculous, perhaps even worse then they were a year ago. Your game is a joke NWI... A bad joke.
Perhaps spending all your money on that move to Canada was a bad idea. In the last two years there's been zero improvement in this shell of a game. Shame because you guys were once something to write home about. As it stands NWI and it's IP's are a joke. I raise a glass to what could've been but resolve myself to warning people to stay away from this mess and this company as much as possible. You scammed your loyal fanbase and it shows. F

[DrAdalwin]

Bots seem fine tbh, thats just my opinion

[sigma sam]

Originally posted by Dr. Adalwin, Muller:

Bots seem fine tbh, thats just my opinion

Wait till you meet the 360 no scope mosin bots

[DrAdalwin]

Originally posted by Samantha:

Originally posted by Dr. Adalwin, Muller:

Bots seem fine tbh, thats just my opinion

Wait till you meet the 360 no scope mosin bots

♥♥♥♥.. I forgot about that..

[AldrickExGladius™]

this is the only game i find myself yelling at when i play. shot and bombed thru walls, head shots from uzi at 75 yards as soon as AI comes around the corner, mollys and frags thrown over walls at feet from unseen AI.
but then i also keep coming back to it everyday

[Mox]

Originally posted by Samantha:

Originally posted by Dr. Adalwin, Muller:

Bots seem fine tbh, thats just my opinion

Wait till you meet the 360 no scope mosin bots

Only to be outdone by the 720 no scope mosin bots ;-)

[JustSomeGuy]

yup it really does. They have completely lost my faith and I will never buy another game from them again. Advertise the game as a hardcore fps then add non hardcore elements into the game. They constantly contradict themselves and go for the easiest way out.

[MrChomps]

Originally posted by AldrickExGladius:

this is the only game i find myself yelling at when i play. shot and bombed thru walls, head shots from uzi at 75 yards as soon as AI comes around the corner, mollys and frags thrown over walls at feet from unseen AI.
but then i also keep coming back to it everyday

Also the bots who can one-shot you while jumping; while they're getting up from prone; while their back is facing you; while they're vaulting through a window. They should just change it to Frustration mode. I have rage-quit this game more than any other in the past.

[The Gat]

Yeah, even though they've been improved, bots are still capable of spawncamping, 360 mosin quickscopes, and throw molotovs/incendiaries with astonishing accuracy.

[NickySins]

And this extreme difficulty is what makes me coming back to this game, other coop games are extremely easy to beat, you don't fear death. In this game you could die by anything. Unfair? Yeah, but if it wasn't unfair, it would be boring as ♥♥♥♥. My opinion of course.

Btw little tip, bots hear you, if they hear you running around they will tell their molotov bombers to throw the mollies on your location. So i'd say try not to run with enemies close to your location. It helps me alot and i no longer get kiled by wild molotovs. Oh yeah, don't intimidate nether, it literally tells exactly where you are to the bots. Which is kinda obvious but alot'a people don't know that.

[TheVioletNeko]

Keep the bot feedback coming. Again, if you haven't heard yet, we are planning a complete AI overhaul later this year. Tell us your least favourite things about the current AI.

[NickySins]

Originally posted by daradef:

Keep the bot feedback coming. Again, if you haven't heard yet, we are planning a complete AI overhaul later this year. Tell us your least favourite things about the current AI.

The random accuracy for sure, it goes from 0 to 100. That's the worst thing. They go from randoom dude from the streets to ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ special forces. Make the accuracy less random like that.

[Ooga booga]

I got ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ murdered countless times today because of bots entering a corner I was guarding and instantly-turning and headshotting me. Like wtf not even the reaction time I had to actually do something. I didn't even see the animation and my ping was fairly low (45)

[The Gat]

Originally posted by daradef:

Keep the bot feedback coming. Again, if you haven't heard yet, we are planning a complete AI overhaul later this year. Tell us your least favourite things about the current AI.

Apart from what I already mentioned, I'd like to see them actually using tactics (first thing that comes to mind are those HL2 Combine analysis videos), and better role distribution, I think I've seen bot teams with more commanders and observers than intended.

[Commander Giles]

Yeah, my biggest tilting thing I consistently come across in bots, is when you turn a corner into an objective, specifically on Power Plant Security Forces, when you're flank entering Objective B, on the L shaped stairs, a camping enemy most commonly with a Mosin-Nagant shoots you literal, non-exaggerated milliseconds consistently everytime, I have it on match history replay well over 10 times. The crap tilts you on hardcore unless you can get a box on B or even C, but very discouraging

I understand their is a tactic and strategy aspect to camping, especially for bots to hold objectives, but what I think the biggest obnoxious / obstacle factor in this, is the non-human one of the reaction time aspect, making it absolutely inhuman snap headshots, even off instinct or pure once in a life time thing, where bots can perform it consistently. It's mostly frustrating to play against knowing the only counterplay is your variation of grenades, or wolfpack swarm a objective, and even then that might result in a loss so to speak.

The grenades being tossed by bots I don't know if anyone has had this be an issue, but boy oh boy, it is the worlds most accurate bot grenade tosses every single time, I've probably arguably died to grenades 85% of my total deaths in bots. 15% molotovs, and rest frag grenades, no time to react and they're just too good, centre mass to ensure you can't evade. The way it can be tossed over walls, and know the perfect angle/trajectory is insane.

So what I want to hit on or tl;dr Grenades Tossed by Bots are insane, in addition to their inhuman reactions, which are purely I have to believe RNG based, but consistent in certain spots on certain maps, not sure if it is by bot, or position etc. It needs to be toned down a little. Add a little at least 0.75 to 1s of reaction time to be realistic.

[The Hurt Locker]

Originally posted by daradef:

Keep the bot feedback coming. Again, if you haven't heard yet, we are planning a complete AI overhaul later this year. Tell us your least favourite things about the current AI.

I have a feeling that you say similar things about everything (not just AI) since release but nothing changes