finding wrecks

[Luzilyo]

appearently, according to the map, there are 5 wrecks still present in the sector that i'm currently in. however, if i click on my mining/salvaging ship and order it to salvage wrecks it says "can't find any more wrecks in this sector"
so i guess i really do have to look for them manually. which is really tedious, annoying, and boring. is there any better way than just endlesslylooking through the sector in strategic mode and hoping that i will eventually make out the single pixel that represents the wreck?

[zyris0]

Try using TAB (locks on to next target) on the keyboard if there's anything there it should lock on to it.

[Luzilyo]

ah, good to know, thanks.

[Luzilyo]

still really tedious though, as it also targets asteroids. any asteroids. all the rocks that have no minerals are being targeted as well. in a system with 500 to 1000 asteroids (or more) this is really not feasible (unless you're some kind of immortal machine being with unlimited time, i guess).

[Zaflis]

Assuming you mean the distress signal quest, you're not to salvage those wrecks. They should be interactible when close.

And thx for the tab hint, didn't know.

[KeillRandor]

I have this problem too - system got invaded by pirates, so I replaced the mining laser on my AI miner with a salvager, but it only salvages one wreck before complaining there aren't any more... (Even though it's surrounded by them?)

[Luzilyo]

nah, i don't mean the distress signal mission (still too weak to take on 10 pirate ships at once, which is what happened to me every single time i chose to investigate a distress signal. so i don't bother with those anymore, until i am able to improve my ship)

Originally posted by KeillRandor:

I have this problem too - system got invaded by pirates, so I replaced the mining laser on my AI miner with a salvager, but it only salvages one wreck before complaining there aren't any more... (Even though it's surrounded by them?)

this is exactly what i was talking about.

i think it's a general targeting issue. i have noticed that asteroids that break apart while being mined are no longer being considered as minable asteroids, not even by my own mining lasers (when set to auto-fire)
with wrecks, it is probably a similar issue. if a wreck breaks apart while being salvaged, my own salvage turrets can still auto-target everything, but the ai of ships that i don't control appearently doesn't see all the broken off parts as salvagable wrecks anymore.
so, in unfortunate circumstances you chould end up with a system full of half-salvaged wrecks and half-mined asteroids while the ai complains that there's nothing there anymore. really something that should be improved soon, in my opinion.

[Chewtoy]

If you have a captain on your ship, press T to get out of ship, and set the orders to auto salvage.

It will find all wrecks

[Luzilyo]

Originally posted by Chewtoy:

If you have a captain on your ship, press T to get out of ship, and set the orders to auto salvage.

It will find all wrecks

yes.
but, to quote my starting post:

Originally posted by Luzilyo:

if i click on my mining/salvaging ship and order it to salvage wrecks it says "can't find any more wrecks in this sector"

please don't just read the title next time.

[DivineEvil]

Can confirm. Happens with asteroids too, like OP have said. Seems to be a bug.

[ouch67]

Did you guys check the material of your salvaging turrets? Mining rules apply to salvage turrets too. They can only salvage up to one material above them.

[Astasia]

Originally posted by Luzilyo:

if a wreck breaks apart while being salvaged, my own salvage turrets can still auto-target everything, but the ai of ships that i don't control appearently doesn't see all the broken off parts as salvagable wrecks anymore.

This was exactly how it used to work in the past and made auto-salvaging useless, anything that "broke off" became a new entity that wasn't correctly tagged as an asteroid or wreck and would be ignored by the AI, but I thought it was fixed a while back. I haven't played in over a year though.

[Luzilyo]

Originally posted by Astasia:

Originally posted by Luzilyo:

if a wreck breaks apart while being salvaged, my own salvage turrets can still auto-target everything, but the ai of ships that i don't control appearently doesn't see all the broken off parts as salvagable wrecks anymore.

This was exactly how it used to work in the past and made auto-salvaging useless, anything that "broke off" became a new entity that wasn't correctly tagged as an asteroid or wreck and would be ignored by the AI, but I thought it was fixed a while back. I haven't played in over a year though.

it does seem sorta fixed. i took some time and flew after my auto-miner to watch it closely. it did salvage wrecks and continued doing so even after they had broken apart. it just left behind some smaller pieces of about 2 or 3 blocks size. so maybe that's the issue. things that are too small are not considered as wreckage anymore but still show up as wrecks in the galaxy map.

Originally posted by ouch67:

Did you guys check the material of your salvaging turrets? Mining rules apply to salvage turrets too. They can only salvage up to one material above them.

regarding the salvage turret material, both my main ship and my auto salvager have iron turrets (i'm not very far into the game yet), but so far i have always been able to salvage everything that my auto salvager didn't want to. so that doesn't seem to be an issue.

[Luzilyo]

just witnessed another somewhat related issue.

1. get yourself killed
2. respawn using a construction token and get back to where you got killed
3. locate the wreck of your ship
4. fly close to it
5. salvaging turrets set to auto-salvage won't do anything.

you will have to either salvage your wreck manually or target it and switch the salvaging turrets to attack target (which may or may not work). most of the time they will indeed start to salvage your wreck, but i had two or three times during the salvaging process (my flagship is rather big) where they randomly stopped for no appearent reason and i had to play around with some of the turret control buttons until eventually they started salvaging again. makes it really annoying to salvage your own ships, especially if they're rather big and have a lot of armour (which takes a long time to salvage, so perfect opportunity to just alt-tab and do something else while your salvaging lasers work. IF they work.)

[FuryoftheStars]

The AI will only consider wrecks over a certain size as viable when you’re giving a ship with a captain salvaging orders. I’m not sure what exactly that size is or why they did that (it could be part of the trade off of having it automated for you rather than doing it yourself. *shrug*). This could apply to asteroids that break apart as well.

Your own ship wreckages do not count as a viable salvage target, no matter the size. I believe this was a change made back when they introduced reconstruction tokens to keep you from double dipping (if you’ll notice while salvaging it, you get no resources or scrap, although oddly enough turrets and systems can still drop... that may be an oversight on their part). Additionally, auto fire does not work on your own wrecks. You have to target it and then select the attack target option from the turret group with your salvaging lasers. (This is why you’ll see it stop salvaging sometimes. It broke apart, it finished off the piece that it had targeted, and because the rest doesn’t count as a viable auto fire target, it requires manual intervention from you to get going again.)

[Luzilyo]

Originally posted by FuryoftheStars:

The AI will only consider wrecks over a certain size as viable when you’re giving a ship with a captain salvaging orders. I’m not sure what exactly that size is or why they did that (it could be part of the trade off of having it automated for you rather than doing it yourself. *shrug*). This could apply to asteroids that break apart as well.

Your own ship wreckages do not count as a viable salvage target, no matter the size. I believe this was a change made back when they introduced reconstruction tokens to keep you from double dipping (if you’ll notice while salvaging it, you get no resources or scrap, although oddly enough turrets and systems can still drop... that may be an oversight on their part). Additionally, auto fire does not work on your own wrecks. You have to target it and then select the attack target option from the turret group with your salvaging lasers. (This is why you’ll see it stop salvaging sometimes. It broke apart, it finished off the piece that it had targeted, and because the rest doesn’t count as a viable auto fire target, it requires manual intervention from you to get going again.)

i really have to say the size limit is pretty annoying. i mean, what am i doing auto salvage for? usually to get wrecks that are too small and therefore too annoying to search manually. so i think they should either remove the size limit for auto salvaging, or give us more control over targeting (tab to cycle through all possible targets, r to cycle through all hostile ships, f to cycle through all wrecks, something like that). [insert why not both meme]

weird, when i salvaged my ship it was pretty much exactly the other way around. i did get one turret (one of the worst ones, a blue salvaging laser) and maybe one of the systems (though, not sure about that) but i did get a lot of titanium.