Intel HD Graphics 4000 not too good

[Apollyon]

Okay, so I bought this game to play with it on my laptop. I like this game, I really do, but the perfomance is very poor on this machine. I got the warning messages when I start the game, it's okay.
Should I expect some optimisation in the near future, or forget it, and I cannot solve this, only if I get a better laptop? I'm on linux by the way.

[azhockeynut]

Bulit in Intel graphics barley work on most games....same.boat as you. We row together :)

[Apollyon]

Well I have a pc too, but soon I'll be stuck to my intel only laptop at least 3 or 4 months. I like space games and building, so this game is perfect for this kind of fun.
What's your experience, is it unplayable after a while (in the endgame), or no change compare to the beginning?

[D K]

Gaming on integrated graphics is like driving a car with spare tires. You can do it, but only in an emergency, and expect POOR performance.

[Apollyon]

Originally posted by D K:

Gaming on integrated graphics is like driving a car with spare tires. You can do it, but only in an emergency, and expect POOR performance.

Yes, you're right! I didn't buy this laptop for gaming. I'm okay with the poor performance, my concern is the high temperatures.
Another question: will this game fully okay with an Nvivdia 5400M 1 GB GPU?

[D K]

Laptops will heat up when their CPU/GPU is being stressed to 100%. Invest in a cheap air cooled laptop pad, and that should make it more tolerable. Cooling the computer could also improve performance, most laptops will start choking your clock speeds when they are hot.

[Apollyon]

Yea I know. I have a thinkpad x230 by the way. But I'm stuck to this machine, for a short period, while I'm moving to a new home, and I cannot bring my desktop pc, which is for gaming.
Maybe I switch to a TP T530 which has 1 GB GPU, but I'm not sure that would provide much better performance.

[Tanyon]

I would say you are stuck where yo are for the time being and will need to invest in a new PC at some point in time. I don't think the game is poorly optimized at all in my opinion but my PC cost quite a bit.

[Phezzan]

Thinkpad x230 "EXTREME MOBILITY FOR PROFESSIONALS."

Most laptops are designed to look like an Iphone - thin and light with no air vents.
There's no internal space so airflow is choked to a trickle, and the fans and heatsinks are minimized to reduce weight.
They can't even expel the heat produced by a dual core in cool room.
Once you max out the GPU and a quad core you're only a minute or two away from the thermal wall - and that'll bring performance to a crawl.

If you want to game on a laptop - buy a big heavy monster gaming laptop that has two giant vents on the back for cooling.

These 'thin light' laptops are for business people to answer emails and read webpages in airports.

[Cy]

Originally posted by Phezzan:

If you want to game on a laptop - buy a big heavy monster gaming laptop that has two giant vents on the back for cooling.

That description fits for a laptop that pro gamers would want to buy I had a mid class laptop for a long time and it could handle all games that I played. To name you some titles: Tekken 7, Avorion, Dota 2, Path of exiles.

Yes I had to lower graphic options to increase performance or in case of tekken 7 use minimum settings to be able to play it at all, but the laptop did it's job with only 1 vent as a 15" laptop.

There is a lot of room between the ultra slim business noteboook and a huge blocky gaming notebook.
Avorion does seem to be a game that people with a mediocre notebook should be able to play. When I watched lets plays of this game before purchasing it I would have never thought that the game would bring my notebook to the limits while I am playing it.

To reach a bigger audience the devs should make fluent multiplayer gaming possible for mediocre notebooks/ pc's when the customers run the game on lowest settings with these machines.

[Apollyon]

Originally posted by Phezzan:

Thinkpad x230 "EXTREME MOBILITY FOR PROFESSIONALS."

Most laptops are designed to look like an Iphone - thin and light with no air vents.
There's no internal space so airflow is choked to a trickle, and the fans and heatsinks are minimized to reduce weight.
They can't even expel the heat produced by a dual core in cool room.
Once you max out the GPU and a quad core you're only a minute or two away from the thermal wall - and that'll bring performance to a crawl.

If you want to game on a laptop - buy a big heavy monster gaming laptop that has two giant vents on the back for cooling.

These 'thin light' laptops are for business people to answer emails and read webpages in airports.

I think you don't understand my situation. First of all comparing a Thinkpad to an iphone is ridiculous. The targeted people of these products are completely different.
Second, I didn't buy this Thinkpad to play games on it, or even to play Avorion on it. I know some things about hardware, I have desktop PC for gaming. I chose the components into it and built the pieces together by myself.

I have a laptop, like this thinkpad I mentioned. I have to travel, and sometimes in my free time I want to play games, especially space games. Avorion looked like a game, that fits for a laptop, because its blocky graphics.
The game's system requirements says "A graphics device that supports OpenGL 3.0 or higher." and "A graphics device that supports OpenGL 4.5."

The x230 has a dual core CPU, and 8 gigs of RAM. I nearly fulfilled the recommended requirements, so I bought this game.

I was no clue from those information, that I should have a discrete graphics video card, and almost unplayable even on a thinkpad, which has a decent cooling by the way.

I'm not complaining, I still can play this game on my desktop. But I think the system reqs should be more specific about the needed graphics card, than just an opengl compatible device.

[EdrickV]

As a point of comparison, I'm running the game on a Win 7 era laptop, core i3, 4gb system RAM, Nvidia GT 630M, with 1gb VRAM. Nowhere near end game, but have experimented with high block count ships in creative, and ship building can be slow around 20k-40k or so. Some graphic options will complain about video memory if turned on, but I don't know if it's counting the memory accurately. (This system also has the built-in Intel HD 3000, and Nvidia Optimus, which can confuse games a bit.)

Some things to keep in mind if using Optimus: Run games in fullscreen and make sure they are configured to use the Nvidia card via the control panel. Sleep/Hibernate may screw up Optimus, a restart fixes that. (Notable symptoms: Nvidia control panel crashes when run and "Run with graphics processor..." option is missing in program right click menu.) And of course, play using AC power.

I've had most options at low levels (aside from shaders) but am now starting to experiment with them. One other disadvantage of most laptops is the slower hard drive speed, 5400 rpm vs 7200 rpm for desktops last I checked, unless you have SSD or SCSI.

In my experience, modern laptops don't get nearly as hot as XP/9x era laptops did. But a lapdesk can be useful, especially if it has a slide out mouse pad like mine.

[aaron]

i think you should have no problems playing this game at 1024x720 or 1366x768 resolution.
the HD 4000 isnt a bad gpu.. altho some laptop brands capped the boost clock making it about 30% slower than it should be.