Resources: Mining or salvaging?

[Kanosei]

So from everyones experience, what do you like better for high end (xanion+) resource farming, and why?

[Brynjar]

Maybe its just me but I prefer mining turrets, a few ships with salvagers (and launchers I found) can clean a sector for me pretty quick, tho they always stay busy with pirates and other factions jumping us.

Mining however provides faster returns I think, just keep your best stuff on the ships and let them do their thing. I also found that launchers seemed to help my miners tear through asteroids, not sure if you get less resources this way or not but its faster..

ALSO get one of those velocity unlockers and put one on every ship the AI uses, they zoom around instead of the crawling speed at default

[Puppet #7]

Goonch, couple things-

In terms of raw speed/gains, you cant beat having a decent set of salvagers and a salvage yard. You'll make minimum 10x the material rate, plus be getting flat credit drops and turrets/modules.

It's incomparably faster than mining.

Also, if you're using weapons to mine with, unless you stop firing before the piece breaks you'll destroy 99% of the resource drops from asteroid chunk.

[Brynjar]

Puppet #7 の投稿を引用：

Goonch, couple things-

In terms of raw speed/gains, you cant beat having a decent set of salvagers and a salvage yard. You'll make minimum 10x the material rate, plus be getting flat credit drops and turrets/modules.

It's incomparably faster than mining.

Also, if you're using weapons to mine with, unless you stop firing before the piece breaks you'll destroy 99% of the resource drops from asteroid chunk.

Nice, thanks for this

[Brynjar]

Is it possible to take over a scrapyard? Say, destroy the station there, fend off attacks, build your own station, etc. Can you even customize stations to be like the NPC stations? Casino, trading post, etc.

[Anthony AyeDog]

Hadn't thought about velocity mods for my AI ships.. I wish I had!

As for mining vs salvaging... I prefer this:

2 seeker manual-fire rockets (crafted, always), and 4 railguns (also crafted, manual fire).
Then 4-6 Independant Targeting salvaging beams (crafted as well), preferably with damage boost and no energy consumption.

If you need Xostan artifacts, you can farm The AI or Boss Swoks in further-out sectors for as many as you need, and you can equip multiple of the same.

Exotic or Legendary turret mods can out + xostan artifacts, but if you're trying to minimalize power consumption or don't want to risk RNG, that's your way to go.

Always fight at range and have good reverse thrust (not breaking, but to fly backwards). When you jump in automatically pick an e-jump site if you get bogged down.


Salvage Fighters are your friends. Honestly, direct resource salvaging isn't that good. What IS good, however is how many mods you can get and sell to directly buy resources you need. So you'll get credits, mods+turrets, and resources if done properly. And properly doesn't even mean high effort. Unless you just CANNOT fight stations to produce what you need for crafted turrets. I had to jump 30+ times to get Gauss parts for my railguns, so I bought out that station entirely haha

[Kanosei]

You know, in regards to farming the Artifacts, it's actually much easier to get them from Exodus. You can just spawn the conversation and it pops one out every like 3-5 seconds.

I'll have to keep an eye out for salvaging goodies and play around with them, as i've pretty much been doing mining exclusively since i've gottne past titanium.

[Anthony AyeDog]

I hated the Exodus trail so much. Had to do 20 some jumps with a 24 range drive not counting around void sectors. By the time I got there only thing I was happy with was the xanion wrecks.

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Plus, farming AI is good because of the raw resources gain + mods. I typically sell resources for standing, and 2 or 3 AIs will likely give you enough to get neutral to friendly and several million credits. Set up IndepFiring pulse cannons and salvagers and semi afk just to watch shields if you didn't completely layer your ship in rock.

Unless you get jumped halfway through by pirates or xostan, rock gives 100% AI immunity.

[Kanosei]

Oh yeah, I didn't even think how far some people may have had to travel. I got lucky and started really close to it, only had to do 3-5 jumps with a 15sh range. Farming the AI with independent turrets is a pretty brilliant idea though. Thanks for that!

[Anthony AyeDog]

My exodus dragged me just outside the barrier to practically the edge of the entire map. I was about 3 jumps from home when I stumbled across a wormhole that was only a jump or so from my final exodus coordinate.

Avorion has a sense of humor like that sometimes.

[William the Bat]

I think by far the fastest way to get resources is by manually salvaging - specifically picking and choosing what blocks on a wreck to salvage. It does not take long to figure out where the chewy blocks are hidden and go for the low-durability-high-resource blocks like shield generators and such and skip the less lucrative pieces.

While salvage yards are great, finding unclaimed wreckage systems is easy once you get in to the territory where you can do the artifact delivery quest, and you no longer have to worry about your salvage rights running out in the middle of a pirate attack and angering the faction.

Alternately, make your own wreckage by blowing up pirate stations, or factions you don't like.

[Kanosei]

Now, let me ask this: Do salvaging lasers work the same way the mining lasers do? i.e. you can only salvage the same material as the laser +1, and will it salvage resources below the material at an accelerated rate?

[Anthony AyeDog]

Yes, same way.
Iron can mine up to titanium.

I read on a loading screen that higher salvagers work on lower materials at a faster rate. I haven't tested it but if true it would be nice!

[FATHER FLESH]

In the later game, it seems more profitable to salvage, at least in my experience. If you're lucky and come across salvage yards or hit the jackpot and found a derelict station in one of the yellow blips, you can stand to earn hundereds of thousands of resources, depending on the size of the wrecks and your mining laser efficiency.

So far, the best blocks to go for are the generators, due to their high resource count, low durability and ease of identification due to the game always spawning armour blocks around them.

If you do come across a station wreckage (or make your own), but do not have salvagers that are up to par, it would be more worthwhile to mark the location on the map then get a laser with a higher efficiency.

Also, a higher material laser will work on a lower material faster, the bigger the gap in material level, the faster. However, a lower material laser will have diminished damage and efficiency on higher materials.

[Kanosei]

DerpSuper++ の投稿を引用：

In the later game, it seems more profitable to salvage, at least in my experience. If you're lucky and come across salvage yards or hit the jackpot and found a derelict station in one of the yellow blips, you can stand to earn hundereds of thousands of resources, depending on the size of the wrecks and your mining laser efficiency.

So far, the best blocks to go for are the generators, due to their high resource count, low durability and ease of identification due to the game always spawning armour blocks around them.

If you do come across a station wreckage (or make your own), but do not have salvagers that are up to par, it would be more worthwhile to mark the location on the map then get a laser with a higher efficiency.

Also, a higher material laser will work on a lower material faster, the bigger the gap in material level, the faster. However, a lower material laser will have diminished damage and efficiency on higher materials.

Good deal! You're my friend and i's favorite ship builder btw, we've both been rockin your stuff almost exclusively =P Would love to see a 10+ slot carrier (like 500+ min) lol.

[nDervish]

A mix. On my own ship, I only mount salvage lasers because they're also good in combat, not just for resource gathering, then build a small AI-controlled ship with a couple mining lasers and set it to work when I find a good mining spot. I'll also build AI salvage ships on occasion, but generally only when I find wrecked stations or other places with 200k+ of worthwhile material content.

If I had to choose to do only one or only the other, I'd definitely opt for salvaging because it gives me systems and turrets, too, not just minerals.