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Glowth Mar 18, 2017 @ 7:43am
Is it possible to rotate a block 45 degrees?
I've seen so many crazy builds, but all my spaceships are just primitive Borg cubes.
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anvilton Mar 18, 2017 @ 7:53am 
Been trying to figure that out myself. No matter what kind of plan I start out with my borgism wins in the end.
A Spicy Meatball Mar 18, 2017 @ 8:01am 
all blocks seem to rotate on 90º

the only way to get an angle is to use a block that already has an angle

what is needed is a key that like rotate, can be used to place the block you want, offest and above the current highlighted block. so you can place multiple angled blocks to make angled beams/hull; example

X
OX

If I am hovering over O, pressing the angle key would allow me to place the new block in either X postion, a second angle kep would allow the inverse

XO
X


this type of inserted block would go a long way to allow me to create better angles, faster
Hoki Mar 18, 2017 @ 8:27am 
oh my... a wild spicy :D

you are indeed correct. the rotation gizmo is working in steps of 90°. changiing it to smaller angles isnt available and wont be coming. if you want to build diagonal stuff you gotta use all the different types of slopes.

sadly there are two types of shapes im missing in this game which would add to more complex shapes: a corner section for angled areas and a 'twisted' shape for beams that are diagonal on all axis.
Glowth Mar 18, 2017 @ 10:00am 
Originally posted by anvilton:
Been trying to figure that out myself. No matter what kind of plan I start out with my borgism wins in the end.
One day we will assimilate non borg parts to our ships... one day.
redb69 Mar 18, 2017 @ 10:15am 
Most of those builds are big enough that they can use varying shapes of slope that, from far enough away can create the sort of effect you're talking about.
Krypsyn Mar 18, 2017 @ 11:26am 
Originally posted by Hoki:
sadly there are two types of shapes im missing in this game which would add to more complex shapes: a corner section for angled areas and a 'twisted' shape for beams that are diagonal on all axis.

There is a corner section for angled areas; I use it all the time (should be a triangle or a diamond thumbnail in the build screen). As for the twisted shape, I think the only way to do it would be to use a regular block and a number of sloped blocks along the edges; never tried it, but I think the shapes are there (unless you actually want it to truly 'twist' about the axis like a helix).

note: I think those corner blocks are armor blocks (and maybe blank hull?), but not any of the other types. So, it might not be the best for min-maxing. After getting nailed with shield penetration weapons near the core, I always put at least a thin armor shell over everything, so I use the armor for shaping.

Anyway, if I missed your point, apologies. I am only 75% sure of what you are driving at. ;)
Last edited by Krypsyn; Mar 18, 2017 @ 11:28am
Hoki Mar 18, 2017 @ 11:26am 
the good thing about the editor ingame is that its able to tranform the blocks changing their scale in all axis. This makes its possible to build more complex forms such as curves ingame wichout relying on additional block shapes.
Philonious Rex Mar 18, 2017 @ 3:25pm 
Originally posted by Hoki:
oh my... a wild spicy :D

you are indeed correct. the rotation gizmo is working in steps of 90°. changiing it to smaller angles isnt available and wont be coming. if you want to build diagonal stuff you gotta use all the different types of slopes.

sadly there are two types of shapes im missing in this game which would add to more complex shapes: a corner section for angled areas and a 'twisted' shape for beams that are diagonal on all axis.

You can have the same effect of a 45 degree turn by using 4 right angle triangles together forming a diamond or 45 degree turned square. Likewise using 4 triangles with a square in the center there is no limit to the degrees you can "turn" a square shape using this method.
https://cviveiros.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/bigsquare.jpg

I do wish that there were some more complex / compound shapes included in the basic shapes in the editor. I would say that while it may take some geometry know how I don't think there is any shape that is impossible.
Last edited by Philonious Rex; Mar 18, 2017 @ 3:28pm
D K Mar 18, 2017 @ 4:40pm 
The dev also stated he is planning on adding various curved blocks. They will have the same rotation issues, but it's one more tool to help us shape things.
Philonious Rex Mar 18, 2017 @ 4:49pm 
Originally posted by Vinyl Scratch:
The dev also stated he is planning on adding various curved blocks. They will have the same rotation issues, but it's one more tool to help us shape things.
Cool!
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