X4: Foundations
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Seems rightly founded by the German Government.
Only options are a white woman or a black dude.
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Автор сообщения: ¥aeko:
Автор сообщения: H.S.72
Fun fact 1: 10-15% of all humans are white.
Fun fact 2: Roughly half of that are women
Spoiler: 99% of Europeans are not black (yes, I looked it up - Europe is so white, if we had a capitol... we would have stormed it by now.)
a bit more than 50% should be female, because of WW1/2 and the Ukraine war now.

Spoiler2: The target audience of this game is predominantly male, - especially germans are overrepresented in the community of this game.

Fun fact 3: Companies creating stuff have limited resources. Choices have to be made.
Its all in the game, they just would have needed to add the line of code to the selector.

They chose to not give those options... deliberately - so they gotta eat the blame for it.

Fun fact 4: The red pill eats brain cells. That is very obvious to most of us.
I am not redpilled, just annoyed by companies doing things half-assed and creating drama that could have been entirely avoided.

Its fine to have a black guy in the game, or a female character - just dont exclude all others if you provide a choice to begin with.
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Автор сообщения: ¥aeko
^^Dont fall for his bait, he is just trying to escalate the situation.
He really isn't. He's simply narked at the fools spreading their foolishness everywhere. You folks ruin everything these days, bleating abut DEI and woke this and now "being forcefed progressismus" as if there's some deep conspiracy happening when in fact it's probably plain ol economic/time factors at play here, as with most Egosoft products.

We see which side you're on, so it's no surprise you're casting people objecting to your outraged snowflakism as the bad guys.
Отредактировано Uraael; 20 июн. 2024 г. в 12:52
Автор сообщения: Ketsa
I would prefer playing as Boron, Teladi, Split... Than being forcefed progressismus.

right? I usually play Teladi whenever possible since X2. only Argon and not even all shapes and forms is boring af. however, it's not gamebreaking but the expansion so far isn't good either. it all fits somehow.
I remember back in the day when the core experience of an RPG was throwing yourself into the shoes of someone who isn't a carbon copy of yourself in real life and it led to some amazing experiences.

One one hand it'd been nice to have a broader range of characters to pick from, on the other... I simply don't care enough to complain about it. The storyline is interesting and that's all I care about.
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Автор сообщения: Ketsa
I would prefer playing as Boron, Teladi, Split... Than being forcefed progressismus.

right? I usually play Teladi whenever possible since X2. only Argon and not even all shapes and forms is boring af. however, it's not gamebreaking but the expansion so far isn't good either. it all fits somehow.
I didn't finish the missions yet, but being Argon is probably due to a story reason.
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Автор сообщения: ¥aeko
^^Dont fall for his bait, he is just trying to escalate the situation.
He really isn't. He's simply narked at these fools spreading their foolishness everywhere. They ruin everything these days, bleating abut DEI and woke this and now "being forcefed progressismus" as if there's some deep conspiracy happening when in fact it's probably plain ol economic/time factors at play here, as with most Egosoft products.

You should really stop enabling/legitimising them by having a go at the people objecting to their idiocy.
You hit the nail in the head!
Автор сообщения: Qau'lthir
One one hand it'd been nice to have a broader range of characters to pick from, on the other... I simply don't care enough to complain about it. The storyline is interesting and that's all I care about.
In other words... You came to realize that "representation" is not really necessary.
See what I did here?
What character option? Wasn't only one black dude that you start with?
Автор сообщения: Dreamer
What character option? Wasn't only one black dude that you start with?
No, you can choose male or female at the start. It's the only option.
I'd rather prefer it if it was bald vs non-bald. I'd choose the non-bald.
Отредактировано Patola [Linux]; 20 июн. 2024 г. в 12:57
Автор сообщения: Uraael
We see which side you're on, so it's no surprise you're casting people objecting to your outraged snowflakism as the bad guys.
Given that the post was deleted by the moderators... hmm - guess I wasnt wrong after all :P

The post I was referring to, literally did nothing else than starting a fight - I dont even know if you even know what was there before... because now I am replying to myself xD
Отредактировано ¥aeko; 20 июн. 2024 г. в 13:00
Автор сообщения: Patola Linux
Автор сообщения: Qau'lthir
One one hand it'd been nice to have a broader range of characters to pick from, on the other... I simply don't care enough to complain about it. The storyline is interesting and that's all I care about.
In other words... You came to realize that "representation" is not really necessary.
See what I did here?
Misinterpreted a comment to fit your own warped worldview? Yep, we saw.

Representation will continue to be "necessary" right up until the point you lot stop complaining about it and trying to force it back into the All White Male All The Time model you want. Once it's accepted as part of the world we live in, it stops being "necessary" and just becomes a fact of life.

If you're that insecure that a simple pair of harmless options in a videogame can bring you to a forum to raise complaints and conspiracy theories, the problem is pebkac not game-related.
Автор сообщения: Patola Linux
Автор сообщения: Dreamer
What character option? Wasn't only one black dude that you start with?
No, you can choose male or female at the start. It's the only option.
I'd rather prefer it if it was bald vs non-bald. I'd choose the non-bald.
I think there is something I didn't see. When I started timelines I just started with the black dude and that was it. Is there a sandbox start as well maybe?
Once it's accepted as part of the world we live in, it stops being "necessary" and just becomes a fact of life.
First of all: we dont live in the same world, when it comes to this. (Europe is not the US, and the US is not Asia etc...)

2nd. Egosoft offering choice, but deliberately keeping out two races (its not even the "white ones" that dont get a character) is just wrong - that is not "inclusive"...

So, asians dont exist?
and the entirety of latin america is a hoax, yes?

This thread would not exist, if they had offered the other choices too.

The "aliens" missing I also dont get, unless the main character is voiced.
Отредактировано ¥aeko; 20 июн. 2024 г. в 13:07
Автор сообщения: Uraael
If you're that insecure that a simple pair of harmless options in a videogame can bring you to a forum to raise complaints and conspiracy theories, the problem is pebkac not game-related.
Don't you think that "psychologically analyzing" people (via the internet) for some opinions and calling them names is actually what shows insecurities?

You seem to be insulting everyone on this thread. Please try and discuss around their arguments, not around what you think of their personal life.
Okay..let's bring the discussion back on track; no need for a right vs left thread.

It would be cool to have multiple choices of characters when starting a new game. Not just 2 . Not just humanoids seeing how many alien races are in this game. I think that is a good compromise.
Автор сообщения: ¥aeko
2nd. Egosoft offering choice, but deliberately keeping out two races (its not even the "white ones" that dont get a character) is just wrong - that is not "inclusive".
But that is inevitable. They just can't cram every different human type on a story. It's only two choices, I found it odd that it follows the "woke pattern" of a black man and a white woman, but asking them to include more isn't really reasonable, wasted resources and voice actors and whatever. And as I said to the people who complained of not being able to choose an alien, I think there's a story reason for that.
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