FINAL FANTASY X/X-2 HD Remaster

FINAL FANTASY X/X-2 HD Remaster

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MintyMouth Apr 27, 2019 @ 6:39pm
Any way to remove the ugly HDR filter on X-2?
It's really unnecessary and distracting. I guess it's a post-processing effect so it should be simple enough to turn it off, right? Does anyone have any idea how I could go about it? Or if a mod exists to do it already? I would be really appreciative for any help :)
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Casurin Apr 27, 2019 @ 11:49pm 
Originally posted by jake:
ugly HDR filter
And what do you Actually want to do? Cause there is no such thing as a "HDR filter".... do you even know what HDR is?
MintyMouth Apr 28, 2019 @ 7:39am 
Originally posted by Casurin:
Originally posted by jake:
ugly HDR filter
And what do you Actually want to do? Cause there is no such thing as a "HDR filter".... do you even know what HDR is?

Of course I'm not talking about HDR in terms of new TV marketing lingo. (Local backlight dimming, etc). I'm talking about the kind of thing that photographers have been putting on their images for years. The filter that jacks up the contrast on an image. Maybe there's some other name you'd rather use, but the effect of post-processing they're using on this game looks similar visually to the 'HDR' filter you can put on an image in photoshop. There's a whole bevy of techniques that come under the umbrella of 'HDR' processing and Dolby Vision certification for TVs isn't the only one.

To phrase it another way: is there any way to alter the post processing visual effects that they are using? There clearly are some.
Last edited by MintyMouth; Apr 28, 2019 @ 7:39am
Casurin Apr 28, 2019 @ 11:33am 
Originally posted by jake:
The filter that jacks up the contrast on an image.
So you are talking about contrast/gamma? - not HDR.

Originally posted by jake:
looks similar visually to the 'HDR' filter you can put on an image in photoshop.
That is a mix of bloom and sharpening - again no HDR.


Originally posted by jake:
There's a whole bevy of techniques that come under the umbrella of 'HDR' processing and Dolby Vision certification for TVs isn't the only one.
No, not really. HDR has a very definitive meaning.

Originally posted by jake:
To phrase it another way: is there any way to alter the post processing visual effects that they are using? There clearly are some.
Yes.
From waht you have rambled on so far i think you are talking about the bright bloom and halo.
You can change that a bit with UnsharpMask and color correction. if that is not to your liking i would suggest Untitled project X and ReShade.
GrundleGrump Apr 28, 2019 @ 1:50pm 
Although you do eventually offer some form of answer/assistance Casurin, is the attitude and general condescension really necessary? Just answer the question politely or don't bother.
Last edited by GrundleGrump; Apr 28, 2019 @ 1:54pm
MintyMouth Apr 28, 2019 @ 7:33pm 
Originally posted by Casurin:

Originally posted by jake:
There's a whole bevy of techniques that come under the umbrella of 'HDR' processing and Dolby Vision certification for TVs isn't the only one.
No, not really. HDR has a very definitive meaning.

Even Adobe Photoshop has a menu called "HDR toning". Are you trying to argue that the term "HDR filter" is sufficiently meaningless as to preclude understanding of what I'm referring to? Are you trying to claim that no such expression (referring to such a post processing effect) exists in circulation?

If you're familiar with the expression then your line of questioning in this thread has been not only A) disingenuous but also B) self defeating, since your very familiarity with the thing I'm talking about only proves that the expression I'm using -- in the way I'm using it -- is understandable and, by virtue of being understandable, correct for the purposes it serves. If the term is understandable, then it is sufficiently 'correct' to refer to a certain post processing effect (or at least a certain visual signature) and to do so relatively consistently. I would say that's enough for a term to be 'proper' or 'right', at least in the context I'm using it.

Anyway I found what I was looking for in the mods section on Steam. Turning off both the unsharp mask and colour correction is exactly what I was looking for.
Last edited by MintyMouth; Apr 28, 2019 @ 7:39pm
Casurin Apr 29, 2019 @ 8:22am 
Originally posted by Steve-O:
Although you do eventually offer some form of answer/assistance Casurin, is the attitude and general condescension really necessary? Just answer the question politely or don't bother.
I will always answer in kind. If you act like a loudmouth and knowitall then you will get the same attitude back. If you have no clue and ask for help then i will explain the important parts in detail. To everbody what they deserve.
Casurin Apr 29, 2019 @ 8:26am 
Originally posted by jake:
Even Adobe Photoshop has a menu called "HDR toning". Are you trying to argue that the term "HDR filter" is sufficiently meaningless as to preclude understanding of what I'm referring to?
Yes, yes it is.

Originally posted by jake:
Are you trying to claim that no such expression (referring to such a post processing effect) exists in circulation?
are you claiming that just cause some morons make false statements that amkes it any mroe true? Cause that is what you are currently trying to argue for.
HDR has a specific meaning - you were wrong about that - just deal with it and grow up.

Originally posted by jake:
If the term is understandable, then it is sufficiently 'correct' to refer to a certain post processing effect
See above - "people understand that i mean the earth when i talk about the flat earth therfore i am correct in referring to the earth as being flat".


Originally posted by jake:
Turning off both the unsharp mask and colour correction is exactly what I was looking for.
Well -as i told you after you tried making up more and more ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ to cover up your mistake instead of accepting it.
get of your high horse before "asking" for help like a douche.
Martin May 3, 2019 @ 6:12pm 
Originally posted by Casurin:
Originally posted by jake:
The filter that jacks up the contrast on an image.
So you are talking about contrast/gamma? - not HDR.

Originally posted by jake:
looks similar visually to the 'HDR' filter you can put on an image in photoshop.
That is a mix of bloom and sharpening - again no HDR.


Originally posted by jake:
There's a whole bevy of techniques that come under the umbrella of 'HDR' processing and Dolby Vision certification for TVs isn't the only one.
No, not really. HDR has a very definitive meaning.

Originally posted by jake:
To phrase it another way: is there any way to alter the post processing visual effects that they are using? There clearly are some.
Yes.
From waht you have rambled on so far i think you are talking about the bright bloom and halo.
You can change that a bit with UnsharpMask and color correction. if that is not to your liking i would suggest Untitled project X and ReShade.
Mate many older games had an "HDR" option. it was very very common on older games. It doesn't mean what HDR means today. Some games just had the effect they used to call HDR on as default with no way to disable. You are being pedantic and just showing your ignorance.
Kaldaien May 3, 2019 @ 6:47pm 
Originally posted by jake:
Originally posted by Casurin:
And what do you Actually want to do? Cause there is no such thing as a "HDR filter".... do you even know what HDR is?

Of course I'm not talking about HDR in terms of new TV marketing lingo. (Local backlight dimming, etc). I'm talking about the kind of thing that photographers have been putting on their images for years. The filter that jacks up the contrast on an image. Maybe there's some other name you'd rather use, but the effect of post-processing they're using on this game looks similar visually to the 'HDR' filter you can put on an image in photoshop. There's a whole bevy of techniques that come under the umbrella of 'HDR' processing and Dolby Vision certification for TVs isn't the only one.

To phrase it another way: is there any way to alter the post processing visual effects that they are using? There clearly are some.
Those are the same thing.

HDR is loosely defined as any display or image with an above average number of stops worth of exposure difference between light and dark.
Last edited by Kaldaien; May 3, 2019 @ 6:49pm
Enclosure May 7, 2019 @ 12:13pm 
Originally posted by Casurin:
Originally posted by jake:
ugly HDR filter
And what do you Actually want to do? Cause there is no such thing as a "HDR filter".... do you even know what HDR is?
Splintee cell chaos theory has an option called HDR. And it's not our HDR...
Kaldaien May 7, 2019 @ 4:26pm 
Yeah it is. The only difference is the application of the tonemap at the end. Real-time tonemapping is not particularly complicated, there's not a lot of computational power to dedicate to the process so they just take a histogram and apply an equation that'd fit on your index finger.

These days ACES is the flavor of the month, but it's an area of on-going research. I have an on again off again involvement in modern tonemapping for my own work and I can assure you that everything being referred to as HDR shares a common basis.
Last edited by Kaldaien; May 7, 2019 @ 4:28pm
TotesAdorbs Jul 9, 2023 @ 5:14am 
Originally posted by Kaldaien-WillNotReply:
Yeah it is. The only difference is the application of the tonemap at the end. Real-time tonemapping is not particularly complicated, there's not a lot of computational power to dedicate to the process so they just take a histogram and apply an equation that'd fit on your index finger.

These days ACES is the flavor of the month, but it's an area of on-going research. I have an on again off again involvement in modern tonemapping for my own work and I can assure you that everything being referred to as HDR shares a common basis.

I respect you, your work, and your knowledge of programming Kaldaien, that being said:

Ask any photographer (professional or hobbyist) who has been around since the late 90s/early 2000s, they'll be more than happy to explain what the term HDR means in their area of expertise, long before we were discussing HDR TVs and Monitors.

Halif-Life 2: Lost Coast (2005)
A demo released to show off brand new rendering techniques resembling HDR (in the photography sense).
This had nothing to do with exceeding the available nits on an SDR monitor (which is what the modern nomenclature of HDR/SDR refers to).

There are absolutely multiple definitions of the abbreviation "HDR" which have entirely different meanings in different applications and industries. In this sense, the OP's usage of the term was 100% correct.

Sorry to necro a post, but a quick google search for exactly what the OP was looking for brought up this thread and answered my question.

Hope this helps!
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