wish i could get my money back

[WhiteHornedMessiah]

and my time also invested in this dog water game...

[love]

I tried to refund after they changed the hourly tick into daily. It's such a huge change that it radically alters everything I enjoyed about it.

Refund denied. I'll try again, anyway.

[KroganCharr]

Originally posted by love:

I tried to refund after they changed the hourly tick into daily. It's such a huge change that it radically alters everything I enjoyed about it.

Refund denied. I'll try again, anyway.

Steam generally does not refund after you either played more than 2 hours, or more than 14 days have passed since purchase. You'd need a much stronger reason to get the refund than "I don't like this update".

[love]

Originally posted by KroganCharr:

Originally posted by love:

I tried to refund after they changed the hourly tick into daily. It's such a huge change that it radically alters everything I enjoyed about it.

Refund denied. I'll try again, anyway.

Steam generally does not refund after you either played more than 2 hours, or more than 14 days have passed since purchase. You'd need a much stronger reason to get the refund than "I don't like this update".

This isn't the product I bought anymore. That's grounds enough for a refund, to be honest.

[KroganCharr]

Originally posted by love:

Originally posted by KroganCharr:

Steam generally does not refund after you either played more than 2 hours, or more than 14 days have passed since purchase. You'd need a much stronger reason to get the refund than "I don't like this update".

This isn't the product I bought anymore. That's grounds enough for a refund, to be honest.

Roll back to 1.3 then. There might be a mod to restore hour ticks, too.

[tonypa]

Originally posted by love:

I tried to refund after they changed the hourly tick into daily. It's such a huge change that it radically alters everything I enjoyed about it.

You can always play old versions of the game. They are not removed. 1.0, 1.1, 1.2 or 1.3, just pick whatever you enjoy most.

[eaerion]

Originally posted by tonypa:

Originally posted by love:

I tried to refund after they changed the hourly tick into daily. It's such a huge change that it radically alters everything I enjoyed about it.

You can always play old versions of the game. They are not removed. 1.0, 1.1, 1.2 or 1.3, just pick whatever you enjoy most.

You do know that old versions are no longer developed, bugs won't be fixed, and DLC won't be supported, right? Proposing rolling back to old versions as a 'solution' is ridiculous.

[KroganCharr]

Originally posted by eaerion:

Originally posted by tonypa:

You can always play old versions of the game. They are not removed. 1.0, 1.1, 1.2 or 1.3, just pick whatever you enjoy most.

You do know that old versions are no longer developed, bugs won't be fixed, and DLC won't be supported, right? Proposing rolling back to old versions as a 'solution' is ridiculous.

Now you're coming off as entitled. I'm sorry that Paradox is not bending over backwards to cater to your personal preferences specifically. And I say that as someone who also feels let down massively by EU5 and would get a refund if I could.

[ABoxFullOfKittens]

For those of us that bought this based on it being advertised as hourly ticks.. it's not trivial.

[GuastardoDellaRadica]

Originally posted by WhiteHornedMessiah:

and my time also invested in this dog water game...

Yeah same. At least 1.0 was fun to play, too bad they have been worsening the game with each new patch since release.

[Mindzen]

We all know they are going to put in mission trees eventually, and they technically already have them anyway with decisions or whatever they are called.

They are also including click bloat expeditions which is a lazy way to provide activity in between wars and a copy over from ck3.

The game is radically different from the original vision and its not all Paradoxs fault. The player base has been conditioned to hand holding in previous games and now with a sandbox experience, they are at a loss and have learned helplessness.

[DerMajor]

Just wait until the game eventually gets better and don't buy any dlcs till then.
Remember, a visit to the cinema often costs you 20 bucks these days and only gives entertainment for 2 hours.
So 60 bucks for EU V might not be that critical imagining there will also be mods for that.

[eaerion]

Originally posted by KroganCharr:

Originally posted by eaerion:

You do know that old versions are no longer developed, bugs won't be fixed, and DLC won't be supported, right? Proposing rolling back to old versions as a 'solution' is ridiculous.

Now you're coming off as entitled. I'm sorry that Paradox is not bending over backwards to cater to your personal preferences specifically. And I say that as someone who also feels let down massively by EU5 and would get a refund if I could.

My comment wasn't about making personal demands. I am simply pointing out why telling someone to "just roll back the version" is not a valid solution to the problem the OP is facing.
When a player is frustrated because a core feature they paid for was fundamentally changed, advising them to play an outdated, frozen version of the game doesn't solve anything. It cuts them off from future support, bug fixes, and content updates that they also paid to have access to.
Telling someone who is genuinely frustrated to just "play an old version" is basically a polite way of saying "shut up and get lost" instead of actually addressing the problem. Pointing out that such a workaround is flawed isn't being entitled - it's just looking at the situation realistically.

[KroganCharr]

I find it a bit hard to understand how hourly ticks can be seen as a key feature in EU5. They do not affect economic micromanagement, which is the only part of EU5 that is not completely trivial.

[eaerion]

Originally posted by KroganCharr:

I find it a bit hard to understand how hourly ticks can be seen as a key feature in EU5. They do not affect economic micromanagement, which is the only part of EU5 that is not completely trivial.

It affects warfare in many different ways starting from battles and wars length to tactical possibilities. I think war in general got triviallized but it wasn't like that with hourly ticks. At least not completely.

[KroganCharr]

Originally posted by eaerion:

Originally posted by KroganCharr:

I find it a bit hard to understand how hourly ticks can be seen as a key feature in EU5. They do not affect economic micromanagement, which is the only part of EU5 that is not completely trivial.

It affects warfare in many different ways starting from battles and wars length to tactical possibilities. I think war in general got triviallized but it wasn't like that with hourly ticks. At least not completely.

How are battles not overwhelmingly decided by who is able to bring the bigger army due to a stronger economy, regardless of hourly or daily ticks?