Reverb G2 is out!!!

[Silenius]

Check out Reverb G2, it is out!!! Best VR headset you can have on the market!!! It has 4k, not even with that huge performance loss! And better than Index almost in every aspect for cost 580-680$/eur. And runs even in half-resolution. I noticed people still want to buy Index, it seems they don't know about this great headset. I know it sounds almost too good to be true! I think if you order it now, you will get that before end of a year - not sure. CHECK IT OUT!!!

I recommend you to check it on MRTV, there are so much great things on this headset!!! It has even its own controllers, doesn't require stations and tracking is great. Works with alyx well! CONTROLLERS ALSO WORK WITH OCULUS LAYOUT!!!

Minimal godrays and rings are no longer visible, after hp improved it. You can see some godrays sometimes, but minimally and no rings!!! MRTV says it is best headset on market. Only controllers don't have finger tracking and small haptic. They don't have straps, but you can buy for 30$ mammoth dx grips. Tracking should be fine and good build quality, but they are plastic. They last long on NiZn 1.5-1.6v, or li-pol/li-ion aa rechargables.

He also said, black colors are better than on index, contrast is fine! I saw someone cancel g2 order, because contrast on g1 RIP! Colors are very vivid, they reduced brightness as it caused eye searing, so now it is fine! Otherwise for more check MRTV!

I had Index and returned it because:
- lenses have huge reflection
- overall very blurry
- huge aliasing
- small sweet spot
- little bit dim
- washed out colors

https://www8.hp.com/us/en/vr/reverb-g2-vr-headset.html

May 2021 wireless 4k HMD - Decagear 1 for 450$, check it out!!!

[--ranXerox--]

ohh you got me. it's pre-order.

[Bob Loblaw]

Similar camera-in-HMD tracking efforts have been worse than lighthouse tracking (and they can't see behind you):
https://www.roadtovr.com/htc-vive-cosmos-accuracy-test-controller/

Other than that, looks great.

[BOLL]

I'd say the use of superlatives in the OP to describe the Index are a bit overzealous, at least for me as when I compare it I do so against previous headsets I've owned and used, and in those cases it stands above the rest in most aspects 😅

The G2 is supposed to have clearer optics, higher resolution, but lower FoV and no Lighthouse tracking. I'd say it's a good headset option for people that prioritize those things, but in my opinion it doesn't invalidate the Index as a viable headset. 🤷‍♂️

I think the biggest negative for me, would be that it's still a WMR headset, so needs that runtime, it's not a native SteamVR headset. But if that's fine for people, go ahead I guess 😋

[Silenius]

--ranXerox-- の投稿を引用：

ohh you got me. it's pre-order.

No it is out!!! Check reddit!

Bob Loblaw の投稿を引用：

Similar camera-in-HMD tracking efforts have been worse than lighthouse tracking (and they can't see behind you):
https://www.roadtovr.com/htc-vive-cosmos-accuracy-test-controller/

Other than that, looks great.

Yeah these type of headsets had usually problem with tracking, but on this it works well. Don't know how far it tracks behind your head, but Alyx is supposed to be playable well on that! We will probably hear about that soon, since it is out! Don't know what tracking FOV for controllers has Reverb G2, but Decagear will have 225, so it is not impossible to track behind your head a bit. Same with only 4 cameras.

Also may 2021 wireless HMD - Decagear 1 is coming out from Valve. Has same resolution as Reverb G2 and will probably use same panel. Cost only 450$ and has what looks like wmr controllers with straps. Has 117 FOV! Don't know if horizontal, or diagonal. Reverb G2 has 98 i think - of horizontal FOV, which is lower than diagonal always! Don't know about brightness and color saturation in case of Decagear 1 and performance, Reverb G2 has great performance on 4k, because of compression. Seems like Valve is trying to compete, since their Index is becoming obsolete and is overpriced!

Also i would be interested about performance, there isn't that huge drop in performance on Reverb G2 as you would think. And Index had blurry lenses, it has custom lenses so that's a good thing and should be more vivid than Index. Anyways i won't wait another 5 months to find out and than maybe it won't be even good... Reverb G2 is good enough for me.

[BOLL]

DecaGear is not from Valve, you need to calm down a bit and actually read the news. Valve collaborated with them for SteamVR support, but that's about it. I'll be interested in reading reviews of all these new hardware offerings, that said they also are not sold in all regions, like the G2 which is not even available here outside of gray imports.

[Silenius]

BOLL の投稿を引用：

DecaGear is not from Valve, you need to calm down a bit and actually read the news. Valve collaborated with them for SteamVR support, but that's about it. I'll be interested in reading reviews of all these new hardware offerings, that said they also are not sold in all regions, like the G2 which is not even available here outside of gray imports.

Wut? I read that somewhere, ok my mistake. Don't care from who it is. It will support all steamVR games they said tho! I am just saying what i read.

[--ranXerox--]

Valve just confirmed with DecaGear making sure everybody knows it's not a hoax. It's a well priced device and will go nicely with my alienware hardware or maybee the g2 will go nicely with my alienware for when i go traveling.

[Black Blade]

Lorne Malvo の投稿を引用：

Wut? I read that somewhere, ok my mistake. Don't care from who it is. It will support all steamVR games they said tho! I am just saying what i read.

Same as all headsets? I mean except if the developer spasficlly blocks a headset or dose not fix and issue with it, or the developer of the headset blocks SteamVR I think pretty much all the Lighthouse, Oculus, WMR headsets work with any game on SteamVR (not incolding stand alone headsets from Oculus)

[Bob Loblaw]

BOLL の投稿を引用：

II think the biggest negative for me, would be that it's still a WMR headset, so needs that runtime, it's not a native SteamVR headset. 😋

Yes. I was just reading a gripe on viveport about some title was not updated to the latest version, and thus lacked proper WMR support. If you don't want these gripes in your life, don't buy hardware the developers didn't use.

[Silenius]

Black Blade の投稿を引用：

Lorne Malvo の投稿を引用：

Wut? I read that somewhere, ok my mistake. Don't care from who it is. It will support all steamVR games they said tho! I am just saying what i read.

Same as all headsets? I mean except if the developer spasficlly blocks a headset or dose not fix and issue with it, or the developer of the headset blocks SteamVR I think pretty much all the Lighthouse, Oculus, WMR headsets work with any game on SteamVR (not incolding stand alone headsets from Oculus)

It is on their site, that it will support all SteamVR games, don't know why they would decide to not support SteamVR than? And isn't that same with all headsets? If some developer decides in future, it won't support some headset, than it won't be supported. Tho i don't know what is Decagear 1, it looks like WMR controller.

Bob Loblaw の投稿を引用：

BOLL の投稿を引用：

II think the biggest negative for me, would be that it's still a WMR headset, so needs that runtime, it's not a native SteamVR headset. 😋

Yes. I was just reading a gripe on viveport about some title was not updated to the latest version, and thus lacked proper WMR support. If you don't want these gripes in your life, don't buy hardware the developers didn't use.

Yeah for instance tomb rider won't work on WMR i heard. If that's some games only i don't care. I wanted Reverb G2 for clarity as Index has huge lens reflection and is blurred. Tho you could get index controllers for another 500$ always and it would be same price. But yeah WMR is kinda dead platform, i don't know why they went with WMR, otherwise that headset seems perfect!

[Black Blade]

Lorne Malvo の投稿を引用：

It is on their site, that it will support all SteamVR games, don't know why they would decide to not support SteamVR than? And isn't that same with all headsets? If some developer decides in future, it won't support some headset, than it won't be supported. Tho i don't know what is Decagear 1, it looks like WMR controller.

Just saying that pretty much every headset supports all SteamVR titles unless one of the two I said before happen
So honestly it's kind f pointless to say that XD

About the headset never heard of about it but searching:
https://www.deca.net/decagear/

[Silenius]

Black Blade の投稿を引用：

Lorne Malvo の投稿を引用：

It is on their site, that it will support all SteamVR games, don't know why they would decide to not support SteamVR than? And isn't that same with all headsets? If some developer decides in future, it won't support some headset, than it won't be supported. Tho i don't know what is Decagear 1, it looks like WMR controller.

Just saying that pretty much every headset supports all SteamVR titles unless one of the two I said before happen
So honestly it's kind f pointless to say that XD

About the headset never heard of about it but searching:
https://www.deca.net/decagear/

Just saying what they said on their website, so that will support SteamVR. It is new headset so...

[MaxKool007]

Have known about the g2 for months. Still bought my index. Resolution isnt everything, Look at the primax sometimes rez isnt everything and FOV over 120 gets warpy. Fov looks worse, Still barely as good as the OG vive... lol This isnt news. Inside out tracking isnt good enough for me . Cant play in the dark, Even Lighthouses wig out sometimes, No lighthouse wigs out more..

just calm down :) Most of us have been talking about the g2 for a year.

[Silenius]

MaxKool007 の投稿を引用：

Have known about the g2 for months. Still bought my index. Resolution isnt everything, Look at the primax sometimes rez isnt everything and FOV over 120 gets warpy. Fov looks worse, Still barely as good as the OG vive... lol This isnt news. Inside out tracking isnt good enough for me . Cant play in the dark, Even Lighthouses wig out sometimes, No lighthouse wigs out more..

just calm down :) Most of us have been talking about the g2 for a year.

I am calm down. What are you talking about, just because you have other preferences, it doesn't mean it is bad... I am just saying it is out. As i said you can get Valve index controllers working with that for the same price... And it has already decent tracking, doesn't lose track! Fov is same as on Index, actually tiny bit lower, 98 horizontal i think, but vertical 114.

[Kobs]

From what I've seen Decagear is somewhat half true half BS no one really believes they can do what they say and even if they could, the size of the Co. they have will make it slim at best to be able to supply demand, it's already hard for places like Steam to cope with their orders you can imagine a Co. out of no where with a million order volume to fulfill
My guess is they will take the pre order dollars peoples send and run and you will never hear about Decagear ever again

Edit: this is a comparison between 3 of the best for what really counts...(selling your soul excluded)
what you see when you put on your headset

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ny_OPsxHQmU&t=502s&ab_channel=TyrielWood-VRTech