Incorporates 3rd-party DRM: Denuvo

[PC GAMER]

..and looks like it may be heavy "MMO"-based, as per store page descriptors and perhaps single player not even "real" - in that it will not be possible to play solo/offline.

Deluxe version too, and no doubt countless DLC over time making total price into the hundreds $$$$.

Was interested, partly as a LOL cow type thing, but hard nope.


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Feb 4th edit:

1.) I did purchase this "gem" for the reason so many others have. This game is a living "meme", (thanks to South Park) like it or not. (Devs know this.)
The game is licensed, which typically means it may one day be removed from sale.
I actually like HK for what it is, both as a form of internal (ie: self) trolling, and as a world wide "famous" character.
..and the game may also actually by good/fun or close to..

2.) Hoping, in time, Denuvo is removed. That means the "ties that bind" will be gone, and the game will not rely on a 3rd party service to start/play. That way, as long as Steam itself remains and operates as expected, the game will continue to function and operate. Ergo, existing owners will have ("own") the game. Think about it logically. I own the game, as is clearly demonstrated by the forum mouse icon. So why do I really care - I'm no "pirate wanting a free copy". I have it. That argument is invalid for me. ..and so this is not even about Denuvo, per se. (It is Denuvo because that is what is used on this game, what with Denuvo being the "darling" of the DRM world.) If it was any other DRM that worked in the same manner, I would have the same issue. So to me it is not Denuvo, but "Denuvo" -- any DRM that requires something outside of the Steam API which means "ownership" is now controlled by them. Until removed from the current public build, even Sunblink has no control over that.

PS: May the fourth be with you.

[Zano90]

Originally posted by sunblink:

There are no account requirements, just Steam. The game is fully supportive of offline and the only time you need is internet is the first launch of the game and if you want to invite someone to play with you.

Nobody should require an internet just to launch a game or invite someone to play. Also why should someone have to re-verify a digital licence every 30 days just to play it. When I asked the community mod on the game's Discord server about how long Denuvo is going to stay in Hello Kitty Island Adventure, he outright ignored my question. Then the server moderators muted me for 50+ minutes on the server for trying to further speak out and criticize it's issues, such as potential for malicious exploits. It does not help that there were others on the server that were outright defending it, even to the point of saying how modding support may cause incidents of malicious actions.

You guys, the developers, should remove Denuvo from the game after a month, add modding support, and lower the price of the game. Nobody wants to feel like they have been scammed and be denied the choice of absolute ownership over their game. It is unfair and all you doing, is making it easier for hackers to malicious exploit the game and also making it easier for people to have a justification to pirate your game. This would not be problematic and infuriating if you guys have plans to remove Denuvo and what not.

[Kaldaien]

Originally posted by Zano90:

Originally posted by sunblink:

There are no account requirements, just Steam. The game is fully supportive of offline and the only time you need is internet is the first launch of the game and if you want to invite someone to play with you.

Nobody should require an internet just to launch a game or invite someone to play. Also why should someone have to re-verify a digital licence every 30 days just to play it. When I asked the community mod on the game's Discord server about how long Denuvo is going to stay in Hello Kitty Island Adventure, he outright ignored my question. Then the server moderators muted me for 50+ minutes on the server for trying to further speak out and criticize it's issues, such as potential for malicious exploits. It does not help that there were others on the server that were outright defending it, even to the point of saying how modding support may cause incidents of malicious actions.

You guys, the developers, should remove Denuvo from the game after a month, add modding support, and lower the price of the game. Nobody wants to feel like they have been scammed and be denied the choice of absolute ownership over their game. It is unfair and all you doing, is making it easier for hackers to malicious exploit the game and also making it easier for people to have a justification to pirate your game. This would not be problematic and infuriating if you guys have plans to remove Denuvo and what not.

Direct your anger at Valve, please. It's their fault you have to re-activate the game. What makes things worse is that Valve tries to pass Denuvo off as third-party DRM, but Denuvo uses Steam's DRM, and that's the reason that every 2 weeks you have to re-activate.

Valve's the actual bad guy, as usual.

I reluctantly bough this game on Steam, because it's not for sale from any other store. But normally @#$% Valve and their anti-consumer crap.

[Zano90]

Originally posted by Kaldaien:

Originally posted by Zano90:

Nobody should require an internet just to launch a game or invite someone to play. Also why should someone have to re-verify a digital licence every 30 days just to play it. When I asked the community mod on the game's Discord server about how long Denuvo is going to stay in Hello Kitty Island Adventure, he outright ignored my question. Then the server moderators muted me for 50+ minutes on the server for trying to further speak out and criticize it's issues, such as potential for malicious exploits. It does not help that there were others on the server that were outright defending it, even to the point of saying how modding support may cause incidents of malicious actions.

You guys, the developers, should remove Denuvo from the game after a month, add modding support, and lower the price of the game. Nobody wants to feel like they have been scammed and be denied the choice of absolute ownership over their game. It is unfair and all you doing, is making it easier for hackers to malicious exploit the game and also making it easier for people to have a justification to pirate your game. This would not be problematic and infuriating if you guys have plans to remove Denuvo and what not.

Direct your anger at Valve, please. It's their fault you have to re-activate the game. What makes things worse is that Valve tries to pass Denuvo off as third-party DRM, but Denuvo uses Steam's DRM, and that's the reason that every 2 weeks you have to re-activate.

Valve's the actual bad guy, as usual.

Valve may not be as squeaky clean, but what you are saying is complete bullcrap, given Denuvo's track record and history. Denuvo is not as harmless and innocent as you guys make it out to be.

[Kaldaien]

Originally posted by Zano90:

Originally posted by Kaldaien:

Direct your anger at Valve, please. It's their fault you have to re-activate the game. What makes things worse is that Valve tries to pass Denuvo off as third-party DRM, but Denuvo uses Steam's DRM, and that's the reason that every 2 weeks you have to re-activate.

Valve's the actual bad guy, as usual.

Valve may not be as squeaky clean, but what you are saying is complete bullcrap, given Denuvo's track record and history. Denuvo is not as harmless and innocent as you guys make it out to be.

It's not bullcrap.

Valve's the one who causes your authentication token to expire every 2 weeks.
It's been built-in to Valve's DRM since day one, every 2 weeks all authentication tokens expire. Denuvo, which uses Valve's DRM, is not immune to that problem.

[Lv1 Magikarp]

Originally posted by Zano90:

Originally posted by Kaldaien:

Direct your anger at Valve, please. It's their fault you have to re-activate the game. What makes things worse is that Valve tries to pass Denuvo off as third-party DRM, but Denuvo uses Steam's DRM, and that's the reason that every 2 weeks you have to re-activate.

Valve's the actual bad guy, as usual.

Valve may not be as squeaky clean, but what you are saying is complete bullcrap, given Denuvo's track record and history. Denuvo is not as harmless and innocent as you guys make it out to be.

Nor is as disastrous as people make it out to be. I get why its hated but people blow it way out of proportion and as we see day in day out people on Steam see a hate bandwagon and jump on top just so they feel included. Not had a single issue with it in years of gaming personally.

[Zano90]

Originally posted by Lv1 Magikarp:

Originally posted by Zano90:

Valve may not be as squeaky clean, but what you are saying is complete bullcrap, given Denuvo's track record and history. Denuvo is not as harmless and innocent as you guys make it out to be.

Nor is as disastrous as people make it out to be. I get why its hated but people blow it way out of proportion and as we see day in day out people on Steam see a hate bandwagon and jump on top just so they feel included. Not had a single issue with it in years of gaming personally.

The sort of kernel level access that anti-cheats and DRMs like Denuvo operate on can be disastrous for computers. Also, your experiences with it do not align with the experience the majority have with it.

[lukaself]

Originally posted by Kaldaien:

Direct your anger at Valve, please. It's their fault you have to re-activate the game.

That's complete fabrication. Only games with Denuvo have that requirement.

If not, it will be easy for you to elaborate about your wild claim and provide ample evidence. Valve isn't responsible for anything Denuvo does. As I explained and demonstrated earlier by providing the developers statements and independent testing, Steam doesn't even have a timer mechanism to invalidate their own credentials in their code. You can literally leave the Steam client offline for years and it will start as well as any games without a third party DRM like Denuvo.

[Fatih]

cryptominer hello kitty

[Princess Luna]

Originally posted by Lv1 Magikarp:

Originally posted by Zano90:

Valve may not be as squeaky clean, but what you are saying is complete bullcrap, given Denuvo's track record and history. Denuvo is not as harmless and innocent as you guys make it out to be.

Nor is as disastrous as people make it out to be. I get why its hated but people blow it way out of proportion and as we see day in day out people on Steam see a hate bandwagon and jump on top just so they feel included. Not had a single issue with it in years of gaming personally.

So will you be OK with giving us the key to your home so we can visit anytime you want? Why not? You seem to be okay with Kernel-level access of DRM/anticheats.

[Crashed]

Originally posted by Princess Luna:

Originally posted by Lv1 Magikarp:

Nor is as disastrous as people make it out to be. I get why its hated but people blow it way out of proportion and as we see day in day out people on Steam see a hate bandwagon and jump on top just so they feel included. Not had a single issue with it in years of gaming personally.

So will you be OK with giving us the key to your home so we can visit anytime you want? Why not? You seem to be okay with Kernel-level access of DRM/anticheats.

There's no kernel-level access in this game. You've been horribly misled.

[Princess Luna]

Originally posted by Crashed:

Originally posted by TR1PLE 6:

There is zero excuse for requiring internet connection on first launch.
Young children might have got a Steam Deck as a present with this game installed.
But they may find they can't play it because Denuvo is blocking them. They might not know what that is, how to connect or may not even be allowed to use the internet.

Steam Deck manual says recommended for ages 13 and up per Steam TOS. So it would be up to the parents to set up the machine and its software, and enable Family View.

0 difference.
Parent with Steam Deck will also be needing internet connection on first launch. What for? I thought Steam Deck was for playing games offline (after installing)

[Princess Luna]

Originally posted by Crashed:

Originally posted by Princess Luna:

So will you be OK with giving us the key to your home so we can visit anytime you want? Why not? You seem to be okay with Kernel-level access of DRM/anticheats.

There's no kernel-level access in this game. You've been horribly misled.

Anyway, seems Lv1 Magikarp is ok with kernel-level access in general but no Ok with giving the home keys? Thats not how it works

[Crashed]

Originally posted by Princess Luna:

Originally posted by Crashed:

There's no kernel-level access in this game. You've been horribly misled.

(naming and shaming)

Do you see anything in the Store page about kernel-mode?

[red_glass_shoe]

So, out of curiosity OP, what was wrong with putting your thoughts in this already existing, identically titled thread?

https://steamcommunity.com/app/2495100/discussions/0/600769324985099735/

[PC GAMER]

Originally posted by Chrono Trigger:

So, out of curiosity OP, what was wrong with putting your thoughts in this already existing, identically titled thread?

https://steamcommunity.com/app/2495100/discussions/0/600769324985099735/

What are you up to hoss? Trying something here? I created this thread on release day (30th) and "your" junk wannabe (flame bait?) thread is ten hours old - as of now.

I created this thread out of actual "surprise", since the requirement was added to the store page mere hours before launch. That is a nasty tactic often used by some AAA companies so as to not cause "alarm" days/weeks/months before release. (Denuvo use/contracts are signed weeks, or longer, prior to a title's launch, so this is not a case of they just decided last minute to add it.)

Now take your hate and rotting bait and get out.