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DAWHIPPA Mar 30, 2015 @ 1:22am
Why are Nazi symbols and refrences not in this game?
Im no neo Nazi (im Black) or anything but i find it kind of stupid that there are no Nazi refrences in game. Pretending like it never existed will just open the door for thing like that to happen again. what is the saying? "those who dont know there history are bound to repeat it" or something along those lines. What made me think of this is that i noticed several refrences to Stalin in this game, and those who are knowledgeable will know that stalin killed almost as many people as hitler. Just wondering.

Also on a side note. in Coh 1 when you upgrade the wehrmacht tanks to Vet 3 at whatever that bulding is called i remember the Wehrmacht annoucer guy saying something awesome along the lines of " you done every thing the father land has asked of you and more, honor and blood" does anyone know exactly what he said?.

Oh and the wehrmacht announcer in Coh1 1 actually sounds awsomer the Ostheer anouncer sounds like a dumb asss in my opinion
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Tiberius Mar 30, 2015 @ 1:26am 
Originally posted by DAWHIPPA:
Im no neo Nazi (im Black) or anything but i find it kind of stupid that there are no Nazi refrences in game. Pretending like it never existed will just open the door for thing like that to happen again. what is the saying? "those who dont know there history are bound to repeat it" or something along those lines. What made me think of this is that i noticed several refrences to Stalin in this game, and those who are knowledgeable will know that stalin killed almost as many people as hitler. Just wondering.

Also on a side note. in Coh 1 when you upgrade the wehrmacht tanks to Vet 3 at whatever that bulding is called i remember the Wehrmacht annoucer guy saying something awesome along the lines of " you done every thing the father land has asked of you and more, honor and blood" does anyone know exactly what he said?.

Oh and the wehrmacht announcer in Coh1 1 actually sounds awsomer the Ostheer anouncer sounds like a dumb asss in my opinion


Because it is illegal in Europe.
Last edited by Tiberius; Mar 30, 2015 @ 1:27am
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Hungry Hungry Cho'Gath Mar 30, 2015 @ 1:27am 
Because it's illegal to spread this symbols in germany and maybe some other countries.
Last edited by Hungry Hungry Cho'Gath; Mar 30, 2015 @ 1:28am
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Tiberius Mar 30, 2015 @ 1:32am 
Originally posted by Hungry Hungry Cho'Gath:
Because it's illegal to spread this symbols in germany and maybe some other countries.


Technically it is not banned in Germany, it is only outlawed when used as a symbol of unconstitutional groups (which includes Nazis) – it can be used by Hindu, Buddhist and Jain temples – this is the case in some other European countries.

I know it is banned in Poland where you can get up to 8 years prison for using it and also banned in Russia. I do not know how they deal with the whole hindu thing..
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RedT3rror Mar 30, 2015 @ 1:35am 
Oh, we already have plenty of such discussions(also in other games). To make it quick:
Nazi symbols are forbidden in countries such as Germany and Russia. They can only be used in art or education(eliminating your "those who don't know history" argument).

Soviet symbols represent Communism which is far from misanthropy. Nazi symbols represent a misanthropic attitude, thus promoting violence and killing. It's mainly about the ideology of the symbols, not the men behind them.
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Hungry Hungry Cho'Gath Mar 30, 2015 @ 1:35am 
Yes it's not banned if you don't spread it. The spread is the crime not the possession.
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Tiberius Mar 30, 2015 @ 1:42am 
Originally posted by Hungry Hungry Cho'Gath:
Yes it's not banned if you don't spread it. The spread is the crime not the possession.

Yes. I know a case where somebody had swastika flags in his flat ( which is NOT illegal in Germany ) but for some reason the Police entered his flat ( there was an incident a fight or something ) and then arrested him for having swastikas because they said, when the Police enters the flat, and they see it, it has the same effect as when you make it public. So yeah, they arrested him for making a swastika public.

Kind of weird, but right! I think everyone who hangs up swastika flags whether in his flat or somewhere else should be arrested.
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Maschinengewehr Mar 30, 2015 @ 1:54am 
Because it doesnt add anything to the game. The last game I played that had Nazi symbols was Call of Duty: World at War and Wolfenstein NO. But in the context of the latter it was suitable for the setting.

VCoH's German announcer is the same guy who voices German announcements in RO2. Such a boss voice :)
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Tiberius Mar 30, 2015 @ 2:30am 
Originally posted by Maschinengewehr:
Because it doesnt add anything to the game. The last game I played that had Nazi symbols was Call of Duty: World at War and Wolfenstein NO. But in the context of the latter it was suitable for the setting.

VCoH's German announcer is the same guy who voices German announcements in RO2. Such a boss voice :)

I don't think so. The Germans in CoH have some sort of Czech or Polish accent. The German soldiers in RO2 does not have any form of accent, it's perfectly clear German spoken by a real German native speaker.
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Tiberius Mar 30, 2015 @ 2:37am 
Originally posted by ╬ Blitzkrieg ╬:
Because of some retarded law. And alos Wehrmacht and OKW didn't use nazi symobls, they used the Iron Cross.

No, every German military troop used the Swastika. Even the Wehrmacht had a Swastika on it's helmet. Only the SS did not use the swastika on uniform except on medals. They had the SS insignia on their helmets.
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☧ Voievod (Banned) Mar 30, 2015 @ 2:40am 
Well then JohnDoe123, its a stupid ass law not to allow the actual signs and symbols. The nazi swastika is a part of history anyways so it should be viewed as history. Its been 70 years already.
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Tiberius Mar 30, 2015 @ 2:41am 
Originally posted by ╬ Blitzkrieg ╬:
Well then JohnDoe123, its a stupid ass law not to allow the actual signs and symbols. The nazi swastika is a part of history anyways so it should be viewed as history. Its been 70 years already.


I think similar about it. It's just a symbol. It's fine to ban every form of nationalsocialism, but it should be allowed to use swastikas in games. I mean, in the UK it is totally legal to carry a swastika where you want it in public. Sure, people will look weird at you. But it is not forbidden by law. I mean in movies it is allowed too, so why not in games.
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☧ Voievod (Banned) Mar 30, 2015 @ 2:44am 
I didn't know that you could wear a swastika in the UK in public. You can't do that here in Romania. Anyway there are swastikas in other games such as Wolfenstein so why not in this game? Its just a symbol, what harm can it do? the communist/socialist/stalinist regime represented by the hammer and sickle killed ALOOOOT more people and I mean ALOT more people than the Nazis.
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CursedPanther Mar 30, 2015 @ 2:50am 
Originally posted by ╬ Blitzkrieg ╬:
the communist/socialist/stalinist regime represented by the hammer and sickle killed ALOOOOT more people and I mean ALOT more people than the Nazis.
That's because Nazism was put to an early end, doesn't mean Nazism is any less evil.
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☧ Voievod (Banned) Mar 30, 2015 @ 2:51am 
Originally posted by CursedPanther:
Originally posted by ╬ Blitzkrieg ╬:
the communist/socialist/stalinist regime represented by the hammer and sickle killed ALOOOOT more people and I mean ALOT more people than the Nazis.
That's because Nazism was put to an early end, doesn't mean Nazism is any less evil.
It is less evil.
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Tiberius Mar 30, 2015 @ 2:51am 
Originally posted by ╬ Blitzkrieg ╬:
I didn't know that you could wear a swastika in the UK in public. You can't do that here in Romania. Anyway there are swastikas in other games such as Wolfenstein so why not in this game? Its just a symbol, what harm can it do? the communist/socialist/stalinist regime represented by the hammer and sickle killed ALOOOOT more people and I mean ALOT more people than the Nazis.


Only the US version of Wolfenstein has the swastika in it. And no, the communists did not kill more people than the nazis.
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