M10 Wolverine,good or bad. :: Company of Heroes 2 General Discussions

Tiberius

Jun 23, 2015 @ 5:37am

Originally posted by MarkoMKD:
Pros and Cons.
Cos i still don't know should i use this TD

I don't like the wolverine. I would say, the GUN is fine but the whole armor is very weak.

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Maschinengewehr has Company of Heroes 2

Jun 23, 2015 @ 5:39am

After the incoming patch, definitely. It will be USF's one and only saving grace late game and against prolific StuG usage. Againt OKW they are great for swarming Panthers.

#2

YCWD

Jun 23, 2015 @ 7:47am

Good. Its cheap. It has more HPs then the Jackson with less range and slightly less damage per shot which really doesnt matter because it has higher reload, is faster, has a smaller target size so it can afford to get closer and you can afford to lose them as they are only 85 fuel.

4 Shots for an M10 to kill a medium tank
4 Shots for a Jackson to kill a Medium tank. Except the Jackson has a slower reload. So the Time to kill for the M10 is faster assuming you get up on them for superior Pen

It is my favorite USF tank because it actually rewards good micro and can be used aggresivley not like the Jackson that must always fire at Max Range and fires very slowly.

#3

Justin*

Jun 23, 2015 @ 8:07am

Originally posted by Slappin Like Patton JHeartless:
Good. Its cheap. It has more HPs then the Jackson with less range and slightly less damage per shot which really doesnt matter because it has higher reload, is faster, has a smaller target size so it can afford to get closer and you can afford to lose them as they are only 85 fuel.

4 Shots for an M10 to kill a medium tank
4 Shots for a Jackson to kill a Medium tank. Except the Jackson has a slower reload. So the Time to kill for the M10 is faster assuming you get up on them for superior Pen

It is my favorite USF tank because it actually rewards good micro and can be used aggresivley not like the Jackson that must always fire at Max Range and fires very slowly.

Originally posted by Maschinengewehr:
After the incoming patch, definitely. It will be USF's one and only saving grace late game and against prolific StuG usage. Againt OKW they are great for swarming Panthers.

Soo, yes.

#4

BaldyMcNoseHair has Company of Heroes 2

Jun 23, 2015 @ 9:04am

I've been loving the M10 recently. I have just been going Captain and Luitenant, and skipping Major. Then just start spamming M10's and a Bulldozer with my unused fuel. Meanwhile I also have the luxury of extra fuel to get zooks and BAR's. I find that 2 M10's, an AT gun, Captain, and RET with 2 zooks will toast any tank. Not to mention the M10 vets really fast, and you can almost have 2 per cost of a Jackson, so losing one is a lot less painful. Also the flanking speed at vet2 is really nice.

But you know my FAVORITE part? It is super speedy and can turn quickly. You don't know HOW MANY blobs I have destroyed with a single M10. Just had a battle where I was at 7 CP, and there was a HUGE OKW blob. 3 Volks with Schreck, 2 Obers, a Sturmpio, and 2 Jaegers. I called in an M10 and waited behind a corner. As soon as that blob came around the corner I floored it right at them, wiped 2 Volks squads, both Obers, and a few more guys. Instant vet 2 and TWENTY SIX KILLS! Then I hit flanking speed into his base as he retreated, killed the AA gun guarding it, got to 9 VP and called in a Bulldozer. GG

#5

drumroll

Jun 23, 2015 @ 10:47am

The M10 is great. The only thing that hinders it is having to wait for the Bulldozer sherman to unlock to deal with the shrek blobs in bigger games.

#6

Robin

Jun 23, 2015 @ 10:56am

I thought there had been an agreement to never speak of the M10's good qualities for fear of it being nerfed.

#7

BaldyMcNoseHair has Company of Heroes 2

Jun 23, 2015 @ 11:00am

Originally posted by UN Owen:
I thought there had been an agreement to never speak of the M10's good qualities for fear of it being nerfed.

Crap! LOCK THE THREAD!

#8

ShodaN

Jun 23, 2015 @ 11:10am

Originally posted by UN Owen:
I thought there had been an agreement to never speak of the M10's good qualities for fear of it being nerfed.

It was just a JHeartless bait thread! MarkoMKD is an Axis officer in disguise!

#9

YCWD

Jun 23, 2015 @ 11:28am

Originally posted by ShodaN:
Originally posted by UN Owen:
I thought there had been an agreement to never speak of the M10's good qualities for fear of it being nerfed.

It was just a JHeartless bait thread! MarkoMKD is an Axis officer in disguise!

LOL. Yes I am the high priest of the M10

#10

Aristotle Full Throttle has Company of Heroes 2

Jun 23, 2015 @ 11:33am

Originally posted by ShodaN:
Originally posted by UN Owen:
I thought there had been an agreement to never speak of the M10's good qualities for fear of it being nerfed.

It was just a JHeartless bait thread! MarkoMKD is an Axis officer in disguise!

Exactly, now it will be nerfed, ahahahahahaah (evil cackle). But in all seriousness I think its been nerfed my dear friends. Now that you need 25% damage on a tank to snare it the German Armor will be harder to snare and that is in my experience when a Panther gets killed. I have played matches as OKW where I run into swarms of M10s and I easily smack them down, especially with 3 squads of volks with panzerschrecks so that their numbers are meaningless. The only time it ever works is if they can get that snare and then its too slow to maneuver out of or if they call in some air support. But now that I don't have to worry about snares I can just simply worry about keeping that front armor facing front.

Originally posted by Maschinengewehr:
After the incoming patch, definitely. It will be USF's one and only saving grace late game and against prolific StuG usage. Againt OKW they are great for swarming Panthers.

I wonder if they will, afterall the Stug III G has the same range and better penetration and either faster or the same ROF. One shot from the Stug III G and a Panzerfaust and the M10 is done for. Add in smoke or scopes and it gets worse for USF.

#11

Justin*

Jun 23, 2015 @ 11:33am

Originally posted by ShodaN:
Originally posted by UN Owen:
I thought there had been an agreement to never speak of the M10's good qualities for fear of it being nerfed.

It was just a JHeartless bait thread! MarkoMKD is an Axis officer in disguise!

Hahahah why did I laugh so hard at this

#12

Maschinengewehr has Company of Heroes 2

Jun 23, 2015 @ 12:40pm

Originally posted by Dwight the Blight Ranger_501st:
Originally posted by ShodaN:

It was just a JHeartless bait thread! MarkoMKD is an Axis officer in disguise!

Exactly, now it will be nerfed, ahahahahahaah (evil cackle). But in all seriousness I think its been nerfed my dear friends. Now that you need 25% damage on a tank to snare it the German Armor will be harder to snare and that is in my experience when a Panther gets killed. I have played matches as OKW where I run into swarms of M10s and I easily smack them down, especially with 3 squads of volks with panzerschrecks so that their numbers are meaningless. The only time it ever works is if they can get that snare and then its too slow to maneuver out of or if they call in some air support. But now that I don't have to worry about snares I can just simply worry about keeping that front armor facing front.

Originally posted by Maschinengewehr:
After the incoming patch, definitely. It will be USF's one and only saving grace late game and against prolific StuG usage. Againt OKW they are great for swarming Panthers.

I wonder if they will, afterall the Stug III G has the same range and better penetration and either faster or the same ROF. One shot from the Stug III G and a Panzerfaust and the M10 is done for. Add in smoke or scopes and it gets worse for USF.

I must concur, I think you are right Master Ranger. The sad thing is if M10s dont work out (as easily), Jacksons will lose out on RoF vs StuGs and that only leaves the M1 AT gun. Panthers will reign supreme anyway and only bolstered by making them nearly impossible to snare. Yay. I dont fancy Shermans and bumrushing with massed zooks lol. Or reliance on P47s for that matter. It makes no logical sense aiming for Tigers vs USF now and only fools would do that.

USF has been ♥♥♥♥♥♥ over. Ost is going to dominate now.

#13

Aristotle Full Throttle has Company of Heroes 2

Jun 23, 2015 @ 12:50pm

Originally posted by Maschinengewehr:
Originally posted by Dwight the Blight Ranger_501st:

Exactly, now it will be nerfed, ahahahahahaah (evil cackle). But in all seriousness I think its been nerfed my dear friends. Now that you need 25% damage on a tank to snare it the German Armor will be harder to snare and that is in my experience when a Panther gets killed. I have played matches as OKW where I run into swarms of M10s and I easily smack them down, especially with 3 squads of volks with panzerschrecks so that their numbers are meaningless. The only time it ever works is if they can get that snare and then its too slow to maneuver out of or if they call in some air support. But now that I don't have to worry about snares I can just simply worry about keeping that front armor facing front.

I wonder if they will, afterall the Stug III G has the same range and better penetration and either faster or the same ROF. One shot from the Stug III G and a Panzerfaust and the M10 is done for. Add in smoke or scopes and it gets worse for USF.

I must concur, I think you are right Master Ranger. The sad thing is if M10s dont work out (as easily), Jacksons will lose out on RoF vs StuGs and that only leaves the M1 AT gun. Panthers will reign supreme anyway and only bolstered by making them nearly impossible to snare. Yay. I dont fancy Shermans and bumrushing with massed zooks lol. Or reliance on P47s for that matter. It makes no logical sense aiming for Tigers vs USF now and only fools would do that.

USF has been ♥♥♥♥♥♥ over. Ost is going to dominate now.

Indeed. I have forseen it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAf0QnLFS7Q

#14

Maschinengewehr has Company of Heroes 2

Jun 23, 2015 @ 1:04pm

Originally posted by Dwight the Blight Ranger_501st:
Originally posted by Maschinengewehr:

I must concur, I think you are right Master Ranger. The sad thing is if M10s dont work out (as easily), Jacksons will lose out on RoF vs StuGs and that only leaves the M1 AT gun. Panthers will reign supreme anyway and only bolstered by making them nearly impossible to snare. Yay. I dont fancy Shermans and bumrushing with massed zooks lol. Or reliance on P47s for that matter. It makes no logical sense aiming for Tigers vs USF now and only fools would do that.

USF has been ♥♥♥♥♥♥ over. Ost is going to dominate now.

Indeed. I have forseen it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAf0QnLFS7Q

Palpatine is a Wehraboo lol.

Spotting scopes are gonna suck. Imagine StuG spam into TA, ouch...

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