WOW we got multiplayer beta in 9 years. Not bad

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Take a look at Paradox Interactive games. That's exactly how MP in them works. If the host has all DLCs you get all of them, if he has none you get none.

Which means they give all the content to every player and then unlock portions of it when you pay for those portions. SCS prefers to not give out content for which you haven't paid in order to reduce piracy.

This piracy thing is not even an argument. If people want to download a torrent, they just do it. SCS allowing players to play those maps have nothing to do with piracy.

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Which means they give all the content to every player and then unlock portions of it when you pay for those portions. SCS prefers to not give out content for which you haven't paid in order to reduce piracy.

This piracy thing is not even an argument. If people want to download a torrent, they just do it. SCS allowing players to play those maps have nothing to do with piracy.

Of course it does. In order to use the map you have to have the files for it. And if they download the files to you because you don't own it... *POOF* ...no need for a torrent. Why would they give you that content for free?

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This piracy thing is not even an argument. If people want to download a torrent, they just do it. SCS allowing players to play those maps have nothing to do with piracy.

Of course it does. In order to use the map you have to have the files for it. And if they download the files to you because you don't own it... *POOF* ...no need for a torrent. Why would they give you that content for free?

You would still need to modify your game to make those files work. Imagine a fighting game, people that play online have a DLC character on their PC, even if they did not buy the DLC, because other people may play with them with that character. It's the same.

However, in this case, people would just stop buying DLC maps and play Convoy to have access to those maps. So it would be pretty stupid and this has nothing to do with piracy.

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Of course it does. In order to use the map you have to have the files for it. And if they download the files to you because you don't own it... *POOF* ...no need for a torrent. Why would they give you that content for free?

You would still need to modify your game to make those files work. Imagine a fighting game, people that play online have a DLC character on their PC, even if they did not buy the DLC, because other people may play with them with that character. It's the same.

However, in this case, people would just stop buying DLC maps and play Convoy to have access to those maps. So it would be pretty stupid and this has nothing to do with piracy.

Now you're making my own argument for me...

But you somehow think that not providing paid content to users who haven't paid for it has nothing to do with reducing piracy?

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You would still need to modify your game to make those files work. Imagine a fighting game, people that play online have a DLC character on their PC, even if they did not buy the DLC, because other people may play with them with that character. It's the same.

However, in this case, people would just stop buying DLC maps and play Convoy to have access to those maps. So it would be pretty stupid and this has nothing to do with piracy.

Now you're making my own argument for me...

But you somehow think that not providing paid content to users who haven't paid for it has nothing to do with reducing piracy?

I did not say it was a good idea, I said it has nothing to do with piracy. And yes, it has nothing to do with piracy. Otherwise, you wouldn't be able to play online with someone that is using a DLC character if you haven't buy it in a fighting game. Modding game files to enable content that you did not buy is even more difficult than downloading a torrent.

DLC characters, costumes, special moves and many other things are available in online games, yet you don't see any piracy concern about that.

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You would still need to modify your game to make those files work. Imagine a fighting game, people that play online have a DLC character on their PC, even if they did not buy the DLC, because other people may play with them with that character. It's the same.

However, in this case, people would just stop buying DLC maps and play Convoy to have access to those maps. So it would be pretty stupid and this has nothing to do with piracy.

Now you're making my own argument for me...

But you somehow think that not providing paid content to users who haven't paid for it has nothing to do with reducing piracy?

It HAS nothing to do with piracy. The way that games such as HOI4 or EU4 works has nothing to do with what you said. You don't have the DLC files on your PC, they are temporarily downloaded the moment you join the server and de-enabled after you leave it. So please don't assume that's the way it works in those games when you don't have the knowledge about it.

But yeah, i can see that hurting your business model as people would just borrow the DLCs from other people on multiplayer and those DLCs don't change the core game experience as EU4 or HOI4 DLCs do, so the game could work completely fine without one having them. What would need to be enabled for all though are the trailer packs and cosmetic DLCs, or at least the models would.

I think there must be public servers for people who do not have lots of friends to play with. I joined a couple of servers and got kicked because I didn't speak their stupid language. I'm a gamer and I'm antisocial like most of the gamers. where the fu....ck am I supposed to find people to play with? SCS we need public servers not stupid lobbies. and don't tell me to play on TMP. there is no AI traffic on TMP and most of the roads are usually empty. one more thing. WE NEED SNOW

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lobby host should be able to choose if gameplay optains like fine,etc are activated and everybody in the lobby should be able to use same dlc as host especially the map dlc

If you don't own the map DLC, how would you use it when the files do not exist on your computer? Having them download to you when you don't own them would enable piracy.

Yes but Piracy is already rampant, so it wouldn't make a difference anyway. Companies like paradox get away with it very easily and people rarely pirate those games massively. It's really not a big ask to make the game playable for people who don't have that much DLC on a host. Otherwise I don't think they will use this mode at all. I have all the DLC yet can't play with my friend who doesn't have that much DLC. Not only are SCS restricting none DLC owners but also DLC owners.

That's scummy imo.

Snowrunner also allows non-DLC owners to play DLC maps via a host. At this point in the games cycle, I don't think it would remotely dent sales at all. As most people have bought the game and DLC. If anything it would increase profits due to people buying the game more.

SCS really need to rethink this, I already think the 1 (pretty small and overpriced) DLC a year is not good. But now this? Damn you guys are making it harder and harder for me to play this game.

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I think there must be public servers for people who do not have lots of friends to play with. I joined a couple of servers and got kicked because I didn't speak their stupid language. I'm a gamer and I'm antisocial like most of the gamers. where the fu....ck am I supposed to find people to play with? SCS we need public servers not stupid lobbies. and don't tell me to play on TMP. there is no AI traffic on TMP and most of the roads are usually empty. one more thing. WE NEED SNOW

The same happens to me. I agree with you.

This game gets better with each update.

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If you don't own the map DLC, how would you use it when the files do not exist on your computer? Having them download to you when you don't own them would enable piracy.

Yes but Piracy is already rampant, so it wouldn't make a difference anyway. Companies like paradox get away with it very easily and people rarely pirate those games massively. It's really not a big ask to make the game playable for people who don't have that much DLC on a host. Otherwise I don't think they will use this mode at all. I have all the DLC yet can't play with my friend who doesn't have that much DLC. Not only are SCS restricting none DLC owners but also DLC owners.

That's scummy imo.

I think that the best solution would be that anyone could play with any host. If someone has a DLC map, they'll be able to enter that map, if you don't own the map, the roads wouldn't even show up to you.