Truck Driving? Something you actually pay money for?

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I can understand race car, train, and flight simulators, but I thought people normally would have to pay you to drive a truck full of cargo cross country. Not the other way around.

And I also like "country simulators" and "city simulators", but idunno, maybe I just can't appreciate all the subtleties of a truck driving simulator at the moment.

This pretty much summarizes my reaction to this game:

The GameSpot Community Reacts to Street Cleaning Simulator[www.gamespot.com]

[The Space Ferret]

What's the difference between driving a truck thousands of miles and flying a plane thousands of miles? Absolutely nothing. I really have no idea why you can accept train and flight sims but not truck sims when it's basically the same thing but with trucks instead of trains and planes.

Also note that you don't -have- to haul cargo. There's a 'free roam' stat in the game so you can drive for the hell of it if you wanted. I haven't tried that yet though.

[76561198013065590]

True, there is no substantial physical difference, as in the distance travelled can be the same between a train and a truck.

However, the experiential or aesthetic difference is that people generally are willing to pay money IRL to have the privilege to fly a plane or drive a train, while I don't think there is a single business IRL that offers you the "privilege" of driving a truck haha. (but maybe there are such niche business, I didn't check)

I mean, I could use your same argument above and say that if its all the same, then you should have no problem playing and enjoying garbage truck simulator or street cleaning simulator or herse driving simulator or pizza delivery simulator.

My argument is that with all the simulator options, and even non-sim game-playing options, but only a finite amount of leisure time to play any of them, I don't understand what makes driving a truck more appealing than ALL possible alternatives. Cuz you can only play one game at a time.

Even more so, if someone enjoys truck driving so much, that's great, different strokes for different folks. I'm not knocking other people's tastes. But then why not just get a job as a truck driver and get paid doing what you love? I know it's more complicated than that, with truck driving school and real-life safety measures, but hopefully my point makes sense.

To be honest, the more I write the more I guess I can understand the other side of the argument. I'll admit that. I mean, it might be fun to take a truck full of cargo and broadside a school bus off a bridge haha. Where you could never do something like that in real life.

[FattyMooMooMan]

I can never understand how players find a train simulator more acceptable as a game than a truck simulator. A train is hardly the most maneuverable vehicle out there, pretty much travel backward or forward and adjust the speed...

Got to admit to spending a lot of time on flight simulators though.

[Hotwheels]

I can't understand why people ask these questions, different people enjoy different games... End of story

[City Builder]

Just like in real life, some people would enjoy being a funeral director or a county coroner while others would find one or both jobs repulsive.

Some gamers find some games enjoyable while others find them dull.

[76561198013065590]

Originally posted by LoneWolfDon:

You answered your own trolling question.

Moron. If you read the entire post you'd see that I was making a real argument and not trolling. I even said later that I could see the appeal of crashing a truck and how a sim also avoids having to go through truck driving school IRL.

At least I was honest and admitted that I was changing my original position. What about you and your one sentence comment?

The best games/communities can deal with skeptics. They have nothing to hide.

You're the one trolling by posting without thinking first.

[76561198013065590]

You too. Passive aggressiveness is the last resort for someone with nothing left to say.

[DUNMORUL]

Originally posted by Straw Zombie:

You too. Passive aggressiveness is the last resort for someone with nothing left to say.

Well, for what it's worth, you haven't really said much yourself. Maybe find another forum.

[76561198013065590]

@ Dunwich - my thread, I can post whatever I want. Right? Or is this particular sub-community different? I never started a flamewar with anyone, just stated an opinion on a game. Not sure why you are jumping in like some white knight to defend that other guy, and posting a single comment about finding another forum. Why can't you find another forum?

@LoneWolfDon - You're just sad. Really. You pick a fight with me, I defend myself, and then you continue to pick a fight with me while hiding behind someone else...

[Randox]

People pay you to fly planes, drive planes, and race cars as well :P

You seem to be starting off with the assumption that no one actually enjoys driving a big rig. There are people who wouldn't want to be doing anything else. I have an uncle who gave up a fairly lucrative job in the computer industry to become a city bus driver, and he couldn't be happier with that choice.

Take a look at the game catalogs from companies like UIG and Giants Software (which between them have several farming simulators, as well as two snow cat/ski groomer simulators). If you've played some of their games, then while you might not understand how anyone can put tens of hours into them, you wont be surprised that a game like this has a pretty large fan base.

It's also worth pointing out, that depending on where you are, there is a bit of a cultural difference. Look at UIG. It's a German company, and near as I can tell, almost all of their customer base is also German. From my time spent knocking around on the internet and youtube, it seems to me that job simulation games are in general a much bigger thing in Europe than in North America (seeing as every single lets play I've ever seen of either of their games comes from Europe, and all the companies making the games are also European).

You or I might never understand how these games could be anyone's top game, but they are. There are hordes of people for whom job simulation, not tactical, shooters, or Star Craft, are the best games out there. It's a big world full of varied people :)

[KENJI]

I think a lot of people find this kind of games relaxing and perfect to forget about everyday life.
And TBH the intro video looked kind of cool, dunno i normally don't play simulators but this looks pretty amazing.
Maybe I give this game a shot when it is at a big sale. Don't want to shell out 30 Euros. BUT I can understand why people like it. Driving around with a big truck through cities all around europe and stuff - very nice. ^_^

[Protekt1]

I came here too wondering what the appeal is lol. I mean my god the defensiveness here just proves there is insecurity going on. I don't think the OP meant to attack anyone's enjoyment of the game and was just wondering what they get out of it. Of course people enjoy different things but that doesn't mean someone cannot communicate why they like something that someone else doesn't find appealing. If you cannot, then just shut up and let someone who can.

[76561198013065590]

Originally posted by LoneWolfDon:

Originally posted by Straw Zombie:

"Moron",,, "You're just sad."

Sorry, who's picking a fight?

My previous post, I was agreeing with Matt, I wasn't even talking to you.

I'm open-minded enough to enjoy playing a whole variety of genres of games and don't bash games I may not personally have an interest in nor insult people who enjoy games that I might not like.

If I actually enjoy playing a game like "Euro Truck Sim 2" or even "Street Cleaning Sim", I guess in your eyes it makes me a "Moron" and "just sad". Because those games don't hold interest to you, does that give you the right to bash them or smack-talk about people who do enjoy playing them? Keep on ranting, Sir. Most sane people will see the truth of the matter.

Anyways, back to driving some trucks. Cheers! :)

Thanks for posting a detailed comment. If you posted that first, then there never would have been a misunderstanding. People can agree to disagree on what games to play. No big deal.

It's just that when someone says I'm a troll, twice, and nothing else, then I have nothing else to base my opinion of that person on. But it's cool now. By-gones. I was wrong for saying "Moron" in my reply. Thanks for taking the time to post that comment. Enjoy your new game.

[Chika Ogiue]

Originally posted by Protekt1:

I mean my god the defensiveness here just proves there is insecurity going on.

Or, you know, it's a sign that the simulation community is tired of constantly being trolled with silly questions. Just look at the crap that went on when Railworks was released on Steam.

People just need to grasp the simple concept that different people like different games. While someone might like to spend their game time killing virtual enemies, others like to enjoy their game time behind the wheel of a vehicle they may never get the chance to try in real life.

Which comes down to that same old silly comment, of "why buy a game about a job you can do in real life?" Well, why do people play war-based FPSes when they could just as easily join an armed force and do it in real life? The answer is pretty much going to be same; while you may want to try something in a game, it doesn't always mean you want to do it in real life.

[Artilies]

This game I feel is very enjoyable, very casual and the weather, landscapes pretty much everything looks awesome. I got it when I was sick and it was nice to throw on my tunes and drive around Europe, its was relaxing. :P I'd give it a try guys, its a great game. Works great with a controller&keyboard and I plan on getting a wheel and pedals since there pretty cheap these days and see how that goes.