Euro Truck Simulator 2

Euro Truck Simulator 2

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N Quarter Oct 31, 2013 @ 6:32am
Realistic Brake Intensity?
Ahoy there Fellow Truckers and Trukettes.. [again].

For more of a Realistic feel, what would be the optimal setting to put the Brake Intensity Slider? I haven't really tried many of the other Trucks at the moment, so not sure if the Brakes all work differently, but I mainly drive Scania's at the moment.

Cheers! =]
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Fury6 Oct 31, 2013 @ 7:59am 
Pretty much full left.
ArcticBliss Oct 31, 2013 @ 1:27pm 
Hmmm, I've tried what seemed "realistic" settings based on watching YT videos (Scania or Volvo brake tests), only to slam into traffic when I'm a bit too close and they just stop on a dime.
Fury6 Oct 31, 2013 @ 9:32pm 
You're driving a truck, don't follow behind at any speed or distance you can't avoid a crash with, applies to any vehicle you're driving IRL - you always assume the vehicle ahead might stop at any time and give yourself the necessary clearance. In a truck, you just need a lot more allowance and planning ahead.

If you watch any experienced truck driver you'll notice they give themselves way more run-down space coming to traffic stops than they actually need.. reason? Because they know idiots will see their allowance gap and think they have plenty of room to cut-in in front of the truck. Plan ahead ;)
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Rumpelcrutchskin Nov 1, 2013 @ 1:32am 
I use 75%. Some of the NPC drivers are complete nutjobs and slam the brakes for no reason at all when they suddenly feel the urge. Or they overtake you and then slam the brakes.
Or they start the turn and then suddenly slam the brakes. You get the picture.
ArcticBliss Nov 1, 2013 @ 3:51am 
Fury6, this discussion is about "realistic" brake intensity. It does not apply to this games Mickey Mouse world.
Fury6 Nov 1, 2013 @ 4:02am 
You set your brake strength which ever way you like, the OP's question was regarding REALISTIC brake strength setting, however.

Full-left is pretty much realistic, it's also the setting I use and I rarely wind up parking my vehicle in the AI's boot.. Like I said, plan ahead, truck drivers are classified 'Professional Driver' for a reason ;).

I have plenty of other issues with the AI, like having them cut into my turning clearance when cornering with a long load... or sometimes even just randomly ramming into the back of the trailer, obviously asleep at the wheel or something.. Sometimes I avoid the accident only to get totally jammed in a deadlock with no way to manoeuvre out of the situation because the more clearance I manage to make the more the AI creeps in to take it up, heh.. Pretty much real-life kinda stuff, just more frequent :).
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Fury6 Nov 1, 2013 @ 4:06am 
Originally posted by ArcticBliss:
Fury6, this discussion is about "realistic" brake intensity. It does not apply to this games Mickey Mouse world.

It applies precisely as much as you choose for it to apply. You don't have to set a 'realistic' brake strength if you don't want, that's your choice.
Last edited by Fury6; Nov 1, 2013 @ 4:10am
DocLazy Nov 1, 2013 @ 4:24am 
The most realistic setting is far right.

It's best to find a setting that works with your pedal. Not so sensitive that just touching the brake pedal locks up the wheels, but not so weak that it takes forever to stop. Modern trucks can actually stop almost as quickly as a small car:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sa6IXQoYY58
Fury6 Nov 1, 2013 @ 5:20am 
Those are testbeds for automatic emergency braking systems still in development, neither of which exist in the trucks we currently drive...

Having said that I concede the point that modern trucks do have pretty effective braking capacities. Driving the older heavies like the 379 I kinda forget this is a simulation of modern trucks..

Even so, IMHO full right is not realistic even for a modern truck, if you can honestly stop a real truck in the distance that full-right brake strength allows you to then you are no ordinary human being :/...
N Quarter Nov 1, 2013 @ 5:25am 
Cheers for the Comments guys. Fury I tried Full left, but Wow.. that thing takes forever to stop haha, I think at the moment until I get a Wheel and Petals and configure it all better, I might go with a Quarter from the Left.

Quick Question though. Should I be using the Retarder and the Exhaust Brake? or is it really not needed. Sorry I'm kinda a noob to anything Truck-wise =\
Mad Jonny Nov 1, 2013 @ 5:30am 
Originally posted by N Quarter:
Cheers for the Comments guys. Fury I tried Full left, but Wow.. that thing takes forever to stop haha, I think at the moment until I get a Wheel and Petals and configure it all better, I might go with a Quarter from the Left.

Quick Question though. Should I be using the Retarder and the Exhaust Brake? or is it really not needed. Sorry I'm kinda a noob to anything Truck-wise =\
I alway use engine brake to slow down and the retarder for very steep hills but at slow speed.
in emergency brake I use normal brakes and engine brake.
Fury6 Nov 1, 2013 @ 5:46am 
Yeah, as I said I may not be properly up to date with modern truck braking capacities, heh..

As DocLazy says, you should also take your controller hardware into account when setting it.

All stock trucks in the game have an engine or exhaust brake fitted, the hydro-mechanical retarder is optional with the transmission. The general motto is... if you have, use it :).

If you're going to carry heavy loads, it's probably advisable to consider upgrading the transmission to the retarder equipped version. Both retardation devices work differently and have their relative advantages & drawbacks.

Engine/Exhaust brakes must have RPM to work effectively. As your RPM drops off so does the braking effectiveness. You'll need to downshift accordingly to keep your engine speed up as your vehicle slows. It should go without saying, you will have no braking from engine/exhaust brakes if you aren't in gear ;). That's the obvious disadvantage, the advantage is that you can maintain a high braking effectiveness no matter what your road speed is, so long as you're in the right gear.

Hydro-mechanical retarders are easier to use effectively, they work on the transmission output shaft so their advantage is that they provide braking regardless of whether or not the transmission is in gear. The disadvantage is also that.. they work on the output shaft ;).. that is, they lose braking effectiveness as your road speed decreases. All of the retarders in the game are multi-stage types, they have 3 or 4 stages (can't recall) for increasing retardation as the vehicle slows and for coping with varying grade intensities.

H/m retarders are very effective for rapidly slowing from higher speeds, engine/exhaust brakes are better for maintaining control speed on declines. More generally, engine/exhaust brakes are used to slow the vehicle down until you reach the lower gears.

Some operators use the engine brake to actually help them float the gears more quickly during UPshifts in the lower gears (Jake-shifting) however that's not modelled in the game.
Last edited by Fury6; Nov 1, 2013 @ 5:53am
Gothar SVK Nov 3, 2013 @ 1:27pm 
Originally posted by DocLazy:
The most realistic setting is far right.

It's best to find a setting that works with your pedal. Not so sensitive that just touching the brake pedal locks up the wheels, but not so weak that it takes forever to stop. Modern trucks can actually stop almost as quickly as a small car:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sa6IXQoYY58
I tested braking on new Volvo with 20 t trailer to reach similar braking distance from 50 km/h...the result is slider in 1/3 from left. You can test it by yourself, in this video it is more visible: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WH4F7J7AAFE
The truck stops on a bit longer distance than its length.
sandips1274 Nov 3, 2013 @ 2:10pm 
I've the braking intensity slider set top approx. 25% (from left) and I'm very satisfied with the fairly slow but realistic braking. Could probably go even lower. This is with using a DFGT.

People need to realize that these YT videos only have the purpose of demonstrating the capabilities and capacities of different emergency braking systems (with stress on the term "emergency"). Under normal driving/traffic conditions (in non-emergency circumstances or 99% of the time spent on the roads IRL that is) one would not use or need that kind of braking force to bring the vehicle to a complete stop at a red light, stop sign, junction or wherever. Planning and thinking ahead are 50% of not getting into an accident, both IRL and in-game. ;)
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