Release of map dlc's

[reuhaul]

I understand the reason for not releasing the "russia" map dlc, but why are they not going to release the "balkans" dlc?

[Rivaldman]

Originally posted by reuhaul:

I understand the reason for not releasing the "russia" map dlc, but why are they not going to release the "balkans" dlc?

Its in progress and getting closer now. But no confirmed date still.

[Wolfgang]

Quality takes time. No one wants rushed stuff.

[CFL]

What is going to happen after West Balkans has been released?
In ATS there is a whole road map : Oklahoma has just been released, Kansas is in full work, Nebraska has been announced, there are even rumours that a third mapping team has already taken up another state, maybe South Dakota or another one.
In ETS2 there is only West Balkans and then nothing.
Are they running out of territory?

[Wolfgang]

Originally posted by CFL:

What is going to happen after West Balkans has been released?
In ATS there is a whole road map : Oklahoma has just been released, Kansas is in full work, Nebraska has been announced, there are even rumours that a third mapping team has already taken up another state, maybe South Dakota or another one.
In ETS2 there is only West Balkans and then nothing.
Are they running out of territory?

Rumor has it that after West Balkans we get the Northern part of Scandinavia. However, there is also Greece which is not included in the West Balkans DLC.

[CFL]

Greece including Turkey would be a more appropriate compass, however this would turn Euro Truck Simulator into some kind of Eurasian Truck Simulator.
I would prefer the Viking territory anyways.
The only region where Promods really excels.

[Rivaldman]

Maybe a bundle of small nations, vatican city, monaco blah blah will wrap the map

90% kidding, because there is no place for them in a 1/19 map.

[CFL]

Originally posted by Rivaldman:

Maybe a bundle of small nations, vatican city, monaco blah blah will wrap the map

90% kidding, because there is no place for them in a 1/19 map.

Luxembourg is in the game.
And Liechtenstein and Andorra in Promods.

I would also like to see the UK and Ireland.
Both islands have enough to offer for a paid DLC.
If they make it with the rework team, it would be free and happy moments and all that but they would again neglect Ireland, Northern Irland, important parts of Scotland (e.g. the Highlands) and Wales.
I think Swansea is the only city of Wales in the Vanilla game.

[coffee spoons]

Originally posted by CFL:

Originally posted by Rivaldman:

Maybe a bundle of small nations, vatican city, monaco blah blah will wrap the map

90% kidding, because there is no place for them in a 1/19 map.

Luxembourg is in the game.
And Liechtenstein and Andorra in Promods.

I would also like to see the UK and Ireland.
Both islands have enough to offer for a paid DLC.
If they make it with the rework team, it would be free and happy moments and all that but they would again neglect Ireland, Northern Irland, important parts of Scotland (e.g. the Highlands) and Wales.
I think Swansea is the only city of Wales in the Vanilla game.

Swansea and Cardiff. For some strange reason the signs at the end of roadworks throughout the UK in ETS2 are in both Welsh and English (End / Diwedd). I have seen bilingual signs from time to time in England (IRL) but it is not the norm.

[Rivaldman]

The UK was one of the places that were already really poorly done from launch. I think there is a lack of familiarity as well as a reluctance to do it right, especially when other areas have been significantly improved. Very low motivation for rework, if not the last.

[Ryu]

Originally posted by Rivaldman:

The UK was one of the places that were already really poorly done from launch. I think there is a lack of familiarity as well as a reluctance to do it right, especially when other areas have been significantly improved. Very low motivation for rework, if not the last.

There isn't so much "reluctance" as there is the amount of work it will take to do. UK is at a different scale than the entire rest of the map and DLC areas. So, they will essentially be re-making the entire UK map because that would be easier than trying to adapt all of their newer techniques to a smaller map scale.

[Olav Grey]

I've been curious as well. I'm assuming there's going to be quite a bit of time redoing base game areas and maybe even some early DLC, though not so much UK due to above reasons.

I've been noticing in like, Scandinavia for instance, some of the areas lacking in detailing compared to newer DLC and even some base game reworks. I now live near Gothenburg and while it's good... it's not quite up to par with other cities.

But in terms of DLC... hard to say where they could go next without turning into Euroasia simulator... which I wouldn't complain about either. Only time will tell I suppose!

[CFL]

Originally posted by ~{DCMT}~ Ryu:

... UK is at a different scale than the entire rest of the map and DLC areas. So, they will essentially be re-making the entire UK map because that would be easier than trying to adapt all of their newer techniques to a smaller map scale.

I'm a bit confused about the scaling. From what I found out it is the following :

ATS is 1:20
ETS2 is 1:19
ETS2/UK is 1:15
Cities is 1:3

Is that right?

[Ryu]

Originally posted by CFL:

Originally posted by ~{DCMT}~ Ryu:

... UK is at a different scale than the entire rest of the map and DLC areas. So, they will essentially be re-making the entire UK map because that would be easier than trying to adapt all of their newer techniques to a smaller map scale.

I'm a bit confused about the scaling. From what I found out it is the following :

ATS is 1:20
ETS2 is 1:19
ETS2/UK is 1:15
Cities is 1:3

Is that right?

I believe those are correct. They were able to have UK be at a different scale because it doesn't have any direct connection to any other area; only ferry and train.

And the cities being larger scale means that they take up WAY more room on the map than they would if they were at map-scale. But that is to give us some room to have more than a couple parking lots. ;)

[Aliisa]

Since ETS2 is a logistics game, I think all EU participating countries will eventually be added.

However, Malta is not going to be possible due to its area, Cyprus is going to be difficult due to its location unless it is combined with an expansion of the Turkey map.

[Cop Unit 12]

Originally posted by Rivaldman:

Maybe a bundle of small nations, vatican city, monaco blah blah will wrap the map

90% kidding, because there is no place for them in a 1/19 map.

I really do think some of the miconations could work in ETS2 as most are just cities or only have 1 major city that is also the capital and would be interesting primarily Liechtenstein. Which is home to many major corporations (taxes) and is ON the ETS2 map just no connection. There's not really any reason as to why Liechtenstein could not work in ETS2 if it's like Luxembourg with 1 city. Funnily enough I do think that there are base game roads for Vaduz that you just can't drive to and what I have been told about the promods version of it is how it is in real life. 1 major road that fallows a river and you have like 2 bridges to cross to get to it.

Monaco could be added more of a boat - car, construction (like ATS) destination and pickup rather then a true garage due to the lack of size and infrastructure supporting lorries. There is space for Monaco and a road already leading to the city - country.

Andorra is like Luxembourg but even cooler since it can fill a gap in the Liberia DLC regarding side roads and adds another connection to the DLC section Via france. N22 - CG2 - CG1 - N145. Andorra la Vella the capital is all that really is needed and it can be cool to have the license plate for the country. The "Aparcament Estació Esquí Arcalís" could be added as a scenic point.

San Marino to me kinda can be added in a way. The main city of San Marino is not really accessible to trucks the lower parts of the country are and there is a large manufacturing - warehouse hub in the municipality of Serravalle. There is NOTHING nearby this area and its off the major motorway in the area and would fit really well to add at least the municipality of Serravalle in San Marino.

The rest of the places I'm talking about are more of small islands or cites that from a stupid american perspective could fit that are missing.

Gibraltar is missing and kinda surprising due to how unique the area is along with there being space for it. Perhaps one day.

Mallorca (Balearic Islands) is to me just large enough to have in the game. Palma would be the main city while Alcúdia and Cala Ratjada could be the mini cities with no garage.

Öland and Gotland would fit quite nicely into the game. Öland is more of a farming destnation but with a very large bridge crossing to get to. While Gotland is more like Corse.

Originally posted by Aliisa:

Since ETS2 is a logistics game, I think all EU participating countries will eventually be added.
snip Cyprus is going to be difficult due to its location unless it is combined with an expansion of the Turkey map.

Cyprus is home to 3 countries + a DMZ zone.