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G27 H-Shifter juggling
Got my G27 today and the H shift is slowly driving me crazy . I am using an 18 speed box so 16 forward and two reverse . Finding juggling the three sets of gears a bit of a handful . Is there some sort of trick to quickly shift between sets as I am finding I can go 1-6 Toggle 7-12 Toggle 13-16 fine . The trouble starts when I try to drop back under braking and have to go from 16 down to say 6th . I am having to toggle to second set dip the clutch then down to the first set . Could just be Im not used to it yet but it seems a bit clunky as I cant figure out why hitting the first toggle doesnt just drop it back to the first set of gears without having to dip into the second range first .
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Cazza Sep 18, 2014 @ 12:21am 
Where did you get your G-27?
Ebay 2 months old cost me half retail .
bukkie661 Sep 18, 2014 @ 4:16am 
Originally posted by ST Solutech ST:
Ebay 2 months old cost me half retail .
Nice!!

I'm thinking off buying my G27 this month directly from LT.
The things I worry about is how to set up split-shifting and it doesn't look like you can have the same minute control over the retarder like you can with the Driving Force GT.

I'm really torn. The G27 offers realistic shifting, but my DFGT offers a lot of buttons on which I grouped a lot of functions and I simulate split-shifting quite nicely on the sequential shifter and the more I look at what I do with the DFGT and what with the G27 isn't possible or harder to do then I only see the realistic shifting it has over the DFGT...

I just don't know if that warrants migrating... Maybe if my DFGT gives out one day...
You can set the h shift to whatever you need if you edit the controls.sii file in your profile folder . The G27 has a lot of buttons you have 6 on the wheel itself . Then theres another 8 physical buttons on the shifter and the pov switch is technically another 4 . Oh and your two paddles . As for macro grouping functions It should be possible but I wouldnt have a clue how to go about it lol
Menacing Scarab Sep 18, 2014 @ 7:26am 
Ok assuming I understood the problem correctly I will try to help you out. It sounds to me like you may have set up your range/splitter/range-splitter (whichever one you are using) profile a bit funky. It seems to me that from your description you have it going where toggle 1 bumps you to 7-12 then toggle 2 bumps you to 13-16. That is a bit of an odd setup in my opinion and could be contributing to your issues.

The way I would setup a 16 speed gearbox would be to have 1 toggle be your hi/lo range change and the other toggle to be a gear splitter. This effectively means that your range change will be able to completely ignore whatever your splitter is set to.

If you really like your setup but just need that issue fixed you could send me whichever one of the 3 .sii files you are using and I will look it over and try to get it changed over to being a little less clunky without altering how it makes you shift.

p.s. The 2 reverse gears are not usually counted when saying 18 speed. You usually only count forward gear for that which would make this example a 16 speed.
I think your right after more googling it appears I need a specific shift pattern . I had it set to range on the default profile . I'm going to give this one a go as it seems to fit what I need with the splitter .

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=236812952
Blimey just realised your the dude that provided the guide in the link lol awesome :D
I presume I just need to click the control option for the hshift to splitter to get it going .
Menacing Scarab Sep 18, 2014 @ 8:36am 
You have to make sure it says Custom Splitter now. They added that after I had made the guide. I probably need to update that in there. But yes that sounds correct
Menacing Scarab Sep 18, 2014 @ 10:12am 
At 1.09 PM GMT -5 on 9/18/2014 guide has been updated to include a "What do I select to make it all work in game?" section.

If you have any other suggestions for the guide please don't hesitate to send them to me. I have been fiddling with this stuff for so long it is second nature to me and I can't think of all the questions someone may have about the process so suggestions are always welcome
Last edited by Menacing Scarab; Sep 18, 2014 @ 10:12am
You sir are an absolute diamond ! I now have full control over the box and it makes much more sense . Only thing I think your guide could do with is a quick how to on shifting. Ie how to quickly move up and down the range from 1-16 etc . As having never tried to drive a split box before it did throw me a little . But wow this just makes my decision to get the G27 even more justified . Now wheres that velcro that damn clunk has to go lol
bukkie661 Sep 19, 2014 @ 4:56am 
Originally posted by ST Solutech ST:
You sir are an absolute diamond ! I now have full control over the box and it makes much more sense . Only thing I think your guide could do with is a quick how to on shifting. Ie how to quickly move up and down the range from 1-16 etc . As having never tried to drive a split box before it did throw me a little . But wow this just makes my decision to get the G27 even more justified . Now wheres that velcro that damn clunk has to go lol
Working a splitbox is an art. It's isn't easy by a long shot as you don't have to use the splitter as a rule.
It starts with launching. First of all launching-gear is fully depending on weight and engine-size. On average, you can launch when empty in 6low and work up fully ignoring the splits.
Depending on weight en engine-size again, you can decide to drop a few gears in launch, all the way down to third (treating 1/2 as crawl gears). 10tonnes splitshifting is just working your azz off, work up ignoring the splitter. 25tonnes is 3rd gear launch without fail, and depending on engine size you can decide to ignore the splitter from 9low onwards.
Working down the gears is a different matter. Braking in trucks is only meant to come to full stop when needed. It is not meant to be used whenever you need to change speeds. (Enable air-brake simulation to experience how dangerous braking a truck really is.) You'll need to learn to feather the thottle and to learn how to use the cruise-control to your advantage. Basically, you need to learn how to let the tractor do the work for you while you merely focus on keeping the entire shebang in a rolling state as much as possible. Once you master this you'll find that downshifting comes naturally and you'll become able to be in the required gear at the right times. Off course, downshifting is done non-split. You drop entire gears.
This can only be practised really, not taught.

One thing that irks me in ETS2 is that you can't skip gears entirely, once you start working up, you need to select gears sequentially. I don't know if this is different with the G27, but basically, depending on weight and situation, I (IRL) tend to skip entire gears when working up the gears. This is a likely scenario I find myself working when driving in The Hague.
Launch 4low, skip to 6low, go to 6high, skip to 8low, go to 8high, cruise.
It all depends also on where the RPMs are, sometimes I need to work in 7lo/hi too. Traffic is an important factor in gear-selection as well.

Anyway, the important thing to remember is that a truck isn't a luxury-sedan and you don't wanna treat the gearing as if you're driving one. One of the hardest things to let go off is the desire to work the gears sequentially. Instead, you need to let traffic and your RPMs dictate the gear you're in, relative to engine-size and payload.
It's a whole different ballgame.
Menacing Scarab Sep 19, 2014 @ 8:55am 
Like Merdakah said, working one of these gearboxes is an art form and takes practice. I will definitely see about getting a video done on how I shift in game. I am not now nor have I ever been a truck driver in real life but I can work this game fairly well...except when I forget that I've switched back over to a roadranger setup and end up going into reverse when doing my high side change. lol
bukkie661 Sep 19, 2014 @ 10:09am 
Originally posted by Menacing Scarab(Raven31211):
except when I forget that I've switched back over to a roadranger setup and end up going into reverse when doing my high side change. lol

That's a question I have regarding the g27. IRL, lo/hi is done by arriving into a gear in low-state, flicking up a thumbswitch (priming for high) and then stepping on the clutch shortly to snap in the high-state. Then, a stickmove is required to shift to next low position.

How does that work with the G27?
Last edited by bukkie661; Sep 19, 2014 @ 10:10am
Menacing Scarab Sep 19, 2014 @ 11:06am 
The game allows you up to 2 toggle buttons. For me that is 1 for hi/low range and 1 to act as a splitter. But the game only recognises any kind of gear change (in h-shifter mode) when you give it a clutch input.

So for like when I'm running a super 13 transmission and I'm in 4th which is the low side, I hit my toggle to preselect hi range, then clutch, then stick moves to the position for 5th low(or direct whichever you want to call it).

Then if I want to just go up half a gear I would hit toggle 2 which acts as my splitter then I have to press the clutch to make the game recognise that I want it to change gears again because it doesn't have a logic that would let it know that the split would just be an air shift if I let off the accelerator. I really wish it did notice that because that would be much less wear on my leg, but usually I don't go into the hi side of a gear except for 8th because that is the cruising gear.

Hopefully that got my point across properly.
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