New Iveco release... what the heck?

[That Annoying Turbo]

So, I'm a long-time ETS2 player who is a near-exclusive Iveco user. I did dabble with a 8X4 Volvo for a very short time due to no 8x4 option available for Ivecos, but that aside it's been Iveco only for me. What can I say, I'm Italian...

As you can guess, I have been disappointed for a long time on how Ivecos tend to get the short stick on features in this game (no 8X4s, no tuning pack - I would happily pay for the latter!). I had even almost lost hope on ever getting the S-Way in game, considering it's been around since 2019 and we've gotten trucks from other brands much more quickly - in at least one case the truck being presented in-game simultaneously with the real-world presentation!

You can guess my happiness when the S-Way actually released, but... it quickly turned into a big disappointment. Only 4X2 chassis. No external tuning options whatsoever aside trim choices - not even the base game ones. Only the beacon bars.

Do you actively hate Iveco and Iveco drivers, SCS? Because, well... that's what it's starting to feel like.

[Wolfgang]

Licencing is a thing, in case you didn't know. You can not just put actual brands into a game without a licence unless you want your pants to be sued off of you.

[Underscore_101_3]

They did tease some paintable light bars in the xmas stream, not sure if that's for a Iveco specific tuning pack, or for the base game, or another dlc that has them, like the HS Shoch one, but they were shown on an Iveco S way.

[That Annoying Turbo]

Originally posted by Wolfgang:

Licencing is a thing, in case you didn't know. You can not just put actual brands into a game without a licence unless you want your pants to be sued off of you.

I'm perfectly aware of that, but I find it hard to believe that Iveco and Iveco only is being so hard to license that it took five years to license only a small bit of the S-way line.

Originally posted by Underscore_101_3:

They did tease some paintable light bars in the xmas stream, not sure if that's for a Iveco specific tuning pack, or for the base game, or another dlc that has them, like the HS Shoch one, but they were shown on an Iveco S way.

Didn't know that, let's hope it comes soon!

[Granite]

They did it again, consider this an unfinished release, an early access or something.
In the blog, 6x2 option is specifically mentioned to come in future update, but I guess there will be more than just that.
However when the update(s) will come is a mystery we can only speculate, because one of the trucks released in a similarly unfinished state in ATS (next gen T680) is in the same state full one year after the release.

[Ryu]

Originally posted by Granite:

They did it again, consider this an unfinished release, an early access or something.
In the blog, 6x2 option is specifically mentioned to come in future update, but I guess there will be more than just that.
However when the update(s) will come is a mystery we can only speculate, because one of the trucks released in a similarly unfinished state in ATS (next gen T680) is in the same state full one year after the release.

They aren't released in an unfinished state. They are released as they are available when they are introduced to the market in real life, and there should be no surprise that there is limited customization for brand new models. Did you think there was an after-market industry already manufacturing parts that would fit this new truck that none of them had seen before?

As to why it takes a long time to get those parts later, we can only guess. But everyone who was involved in negotiating the original license is also involved in approving any changes to it later...

[Jdwarfer]

The other stuff will be released later... It's been said during the stream.
The same happened with the latest DAF truck.

[Granite]

Originally posted by Ryu:

Originally posted by Granite:

They did it again, consider this an unfinished release, an early access or something.
In the blog, 6x2 option is specifically mentioned to come in future update, but I guess there will be more than just that.
However when the update(s) will come is a mystery we can only speculate, because one of the trucks released in a similarly unfinished state in ATS (next gen T680) is in the same state full one year after the release.

They aren't released in an unfinished state. They are released as they are available when they are introduced to the market in real life, and there should be no surprise that there is limited customization for brand new models. Did you think there was an after-market industry already manufacturing parts that would fit this new truck that none of them had seen before?

As to why it takes a long time to get those parts later, we can only guess. But everyone who was involved in negotiating the original license is also involved in approving any changes to it later...

What the hell are you on about, S-Way is around since 2019, this model may have the latest trim, but there's load of stuff that is available in real life missing, including chassis and engines.
They even state it's an eraly release with more updates to come, stop spewing lies.

[Wolfgang]

Originally posted by Granite:

Originally posted by Ryu:

They aren't released in an unfinished state. They are released as they are available when they are introduced to the market in real life, and there should be no surprise that there is limited customization for brand new models. Did you think there was an after-market industry already manufacturing parts that would fit this new truck that none of them had seen before?

As to why it takes a long time to get those parts later, we can only guess. But everyone who was involved in negotiating the original license is also involved in approving any changes to it later...

What the hell are you on about, S-Way is around since 2019, this model may have the latest trim, but there's load of stuff that is available in real life missing, including chassis and engines.
They even state it's an eraly release with more updates to come, stop spewing lies.

Deadlines have to be met. And if the manufacturer says it has to be out at a certain date no matter the cutbacks then this is what happens.
Though SCS could have also declined this offer and we would still not have this truck in the game, if that is what you rather want.

[ingosupercute]

I had no idea people feel so strongly about one brand or the other. I play them all! Though I mostly end up driving the older models since I like their interiors a little better. Not that I hated the newer trucks or anything I'll drive them too, lol. Just not as often.

I got an Iveco Highway Truck of the Year 2013 from the used dealer and pimped it btw. I drive it regularily. Yes, this is weak attempt at counting as Iveco owner to belong in this topic.

[garrett.thief.69]

Originally posted by That Annoying Turbo:

I'm perfectly aware of that, but I find it hard to believe that Iveco and Iveco only is being so hard to license that it took five years to license only a small bit of the S-way line.

It doesn't help that Iveco has been bought and sold various times since ETS2 was born. Each time the company has been sold, any negotiations have been nullified.

[Granite]

Originally posted by Wolfgang:

Originally posted by Granite:

What the hell are you on about, S-Way is around since 2019, this model may have the latest trim, but there's load of stuff that is available in real life missing, including chassis and engines.
They even state it's an eraly release with more updates to come, stop spewing lies.

Deadlines have to be met. And if the manufacturer says it has to be out at a certain date no matter the cutbacks then this is what happens.
Though SCS could have also declined this offer and we would still not have this truck in the game, if that is what you rather want.

OK I will translate for you what I said earlier with fewer words, hope you will get what I tried to say, otherwise, I don't feel like reacting again.
When I said SCS released the truck unfinished, it means that they will add more options to it, nothing else, the truck is fully working for what it offers at the moment and I am more than happy that we can have it before it is fully customizable. I fully understand that what we got is most likely result of agreement between SCS and Iveco, we could have got nothing.
They've done something similar before at least twice, if memory serves me, and one of the released trucks has been updated since then with customization options comparabel with any other previously released truck, while the other is still only available in one possible configuration, with only few optional parts.

[Kobi Blade]

Originally posted by Granite:

Originally posted by Ryu:

They aren't released in an unfinished state. They are released as they are available when they are introduced to the market in real life, and there should be no surprise that there is limited customization for brand new models. Did you think there was an after-market industry already manufacturing parts that would fit this new truck that none of them had seen before?

As to why it takes a long time to get those parts later, we can only guess. But everyone who was involved in negotiating the original license is also involved in approving any changes to it later...

What the hell are you on about, S-Way is around since 2019, this model may have the latest trim, but there's load of stuff that is available in real life missing, including chassis and engines.
They even state it's an eraly release with more updates to come, stop spewing lies.

That same as saying Volvo FH been in the market since 2008, just cause they using the same brand, does not mean it is the same truck.

Is not uncommon to have incompatible parts and different feature set between the newer and older models.

Regardless the latest IVECO S-Way supports 4x2, 6x2, 6x4 axles as a factory option, so their absence is probably due to licensing issues.

[Wet Valley Mayor]

Originally posted by Kobi Blade:

Originally posted by Granite:

What the hell are you on about, S-Way is around since 2019, this model may have the latest trim, but there's load of stuff that is available in real life missing, including chassis and engines.
They even state it's an eraly release with more updates to come, stop spewing lies.

That same as saying Volvo FH been in the market since 2008, just cause they using the same brand, does not mean it is the same truck.

Is not uncommon to have incompatible parts and different feature set between the newer and older models.

Regardless the latest IVECO S-Way supports 4x2, 6x2, 6x4 axles as a factory option, so their absence is probably due to licensing issues.

Sometimes, same model, different generation. For instance, FH Tuning Pack is not compatible to the FH6. https://store.steampowered.com/app/1299530/Euro_Truck_Simulator_2__FH_Tuning_Pack/?curator_clanid=4419325&curator_listid=43342
Engine and transmission options as well. FH6 no longer have the D16 engines (replaced by the D17), and all of its I-Shift transmissions have smaller differential ratios.

None of the in-game Volvo trucks have tandem axle lift either, even after nearly a decade later. https://youtu.be/AvgDYT83mqs?si=34fRA5ibrGNZocRX